So this is not a hate crime?

rgambs

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

rssesq

Bronx Bombers said:

InHiding80 said:

I've seen so many Trumptards calling it a hate crime on Facebook and being hypocrites by saying the N word. All you have to do is google it and you'll see these privileged hypocrites. Of course, being the badass vigilante I am *sinister laughter*, I reported them. No one is above the law.

Unless the trump fans draw first blood, there's no excuse for what happened.

So its ok in your book to call Trump supporters retards on a message board but you get your panties in a bunch when other people use derogatory terms on the internet. You're certainly not a badass but you're definitely a hypocrite.

rmes with ditch and stich

josevolution said:

Total dirt bags I hope they get put away for yrs simply put they are animals that should not be allowed in a civil society , why can we just have an offshore island to just send animals like this to just fend for themselves ..

It must be the chem trails and manganese supplier turning all those south side kids into animalia. LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Htrw9jpTSk

rssesq

rgambs said:

rssesq said:

only a libtard social justice warrior would say that isn't a hate crime. Do you think it would have taken that long and it was j-boy and not w-boy the perps were shouting?
Rahm and the media would have made sure the appropriate charges were leveled in a TIMELY manner.

Classy, as usual.

So do you give your prospective clients a quiz to make sure they aren't "j-boys" before you represent them?

They'd never hire a goyim lawyer. Don't you read the "holy" Talmud?

HughFreakingDillon

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear this.

jeffbr

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

That's great to hear! I've warmed a bit to Sharpton over the years, after having written him off in the late 80's as a race baiter for his part in the Tawana Brawley fiasco. He was definitely a lying, shady, race baiting hack back then, but I think he's done a number of good things in the ensuing decades, and I'm glad to see that quote from him.

rgambs

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear this.

You shouldn't be, popular opinion from white Americans on these 2 has little to do with who they really are and what they really do.
It's all a knee-jerk reaction from people who's sophistication on race issues is limited to ignorant statements like, "why is there a BET, if someone made a WET there would be an uproar!"

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear this.

You shouldn't be, popular opinion from white Americans on these 2 has little to do with who they really are and what they really do.
It's all a knee-jerk reaction from people who's sophistication on race issues is limited to ignorant statements like, "why is there a BET, if someone made a WET there would be an uproar!"

I agree. They may not be as "agreeable" from "white America's" perspective, but they have dedicated their lives to fighting for the terrible racism suffered by blacks in America, and even if they have a few sharp edges, that is not at all deserving of the kind of aggressive attitudes that many white people tend to direct at them. I've always found it appalling that they are constantly criticized for the roles they have played in the fight for civil rights and equalities. I guess some people only like black civil rights advocates who are soft spoken and constantly trying to get along with everyone. Meanwhile, those same people voted for Donald fucking Trump. Gimme a fucking break.

HughFreakingDillon

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear this.

You shouldn't be, popular opinion from white Americans on these 2 has little to do with who they really are and what they really do.
It's all a knee-jerk reaction from people who's sophistication on race issues is limited to ignorant statements like, "why is there a BET, if someone made a WET there would be an uproar!"

I see what you mean, but it is my perception that these two are largely quiet when it comes to black on white crime. is that perception inaccurate?

tbergs

chadwick said:

"team slap the fuck out of these shitheads" is the grandest plan i've read on here in something like 47 years. i personally would pay good money to smack each one right upside their foolish head. i wonder how they were brought up. who are their parents? what kinds of lives have these idiots lived?

yep... slap, slap, slap & slap
do something nice for others
slap a mean person as hard as you can
(hopefully the meanshitstick isn't built like a gorilla ready to break you in two)
this is why we invented ball bats, ninja stars, bowling balls, wrecking ball cranes & tanks on fire speeding down mountains

They most likely grew up in shit and didn't learn anything except violence from whoever was their parent, if even raised by a parent. None of that is an excuse of course, but it's a product of a horse shit system. There are some deep rooted issues and a long history that can't be corrected with these 4.

Hopefully the justice system gets this right. I would rather use my time and energy to seek out the victim and provide support instead of waste another second thinking what physical aggressions should or could be taken out against them. I'm tired of violence in response to violence. It's a pointless exercise in power assertion that doesn't provide any benefits.

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear this.

You shouldn't be, popular opinion from white Americans on these 2 has little to do with who they really are and what they really do.
It's all a knee-jerk reaction from people who's sophistication on race issues is limited to ignorant statements like, "why is there a BET, if someone made a WET there would be an uproar!"

I see what you mean, but it is my perception that these two are largely quiet when it comes to black on white crime. is that perception inaccurate?

People can't be all things for all people. They obviously have a focus; just because they don't focus on black on white crime it doesn't mean they aren't against it. Of course they are.

rgambs

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear this.

You shouldn't be, popular opinion from white Americans on these 2 has little to do with who they really are and what they really do.
It's all a knee-jerk reaction from people who's sophistication on race issues is limited to ignorant statements like, "why is there a BET, if someone made a WET there would be an uproar!"

I see what you mean, but it is my perception that these two are largely quiet when it comes to black on white crime. is that perception inaccurate?

I wouldn't necessarily call it inaccurate, but I would say it is sort of biased and irrelevant.
Nobody can comment on everything and I don't think it is fair to expect someone who fights injustice to minorities to balance every comment with one about minorities commiting injustices, just like you shouldn't expect a feminist to be outspoken on females who do shitty things.

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear this.

You shouldn't be, popular opinion from white Americans on these 2 has little to do with who they really are and what they really do.
It's all a knee-jerk reaction from people who's sophistication on race issues is limited to ignorant statements like, "why is there a BET, if someone made a WET there would be an uproar!"

I see what you mean, but it is my perception that these two are largely quiet when it comes to black on white crime. is that perception inaccurate?

People can't be all things for all people. They obviously have a focus; just because they don't focus on black on white crime it doesn't mean they aren't against it. Of course they are.

I understand they have a focus. to me their focus is on helping the black community as a whole, not just blacks who are violated by whites. so to me, that would include making some sort of statement when something like this happens, denouncing it, bringing the black community together, creating unity, etc. they have here. which is great.

rssesq

and on that note, I'm off to Miami beach to atone. It's to cold here.
PEACE

rustneversleeps

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

I'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear this.

You shouldn't be, popular opinion from white Americans on these 2 has little to do with who they really are and what they really do.
It's all a knee-jerk reaction from people who's sophistication on race issues is limited to ignorant statements like, "why is there a BET, if someone made a WET there would be an uproar!"

I see what you mean, but it is my perception that these two are largely quiet when it comes to black on white crime. is that perception inaccurate?

100% accurate.

Empty Glass

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

Thank you for your answer.

"Are you just another ignorant white person..." sure, why not

Thirty Bills Unpaid

tbergs said:

chadwick said:

"team slap the fuck out of these shitheads" is the grandest plan i've read on here in something like 47 years. i personally would pay good money to smack each one right upside their foolish head. i wonder how they were brought up. who are their parents? what kinds of lives have these idiots lived?

yep... slap, slap, slap & slap
do something nice for others
slap a mean person as hard as you can
(hopefully the meanshitstick isn't built like a gorilla ready to break you in two)
this is why we invented ball bats, ninja stars, bowling balls, wrecking ball cranes & tanks on fire speeding down mountains

They most likely grew up in shit and didn't learn anything except violence from whoever was their parent, if even raised by a parent. None of that is an excuse of course, but it's a product of a horse shit system. There are some deep rooted issues and a long history that can't be corrected with these 4.

Hopefully the justice system gets this right. I would rather use my time and energy to seek out the victim and provide support instead of waste another second thinking what physical aggressions should or could be taken out against them. I'm tired of violence in response to violence. It's a pointless exercise in power assertion that doesn't provide any benefits.

This is true.

You can't grow into such idiocy by chance. The problem is, as I have come to understand it, that this is somewhat of an epidemic. How do you deal with it? The impact this era of broken individuals has the potential to grow- idiots like these are going to procreate. They won't become responsible once having kids.

It's a mess. Control-alt-delete is not an option. To boot... there is no plan in place to curb the reality- so... it's going to be a case of dealing with bullshit like this whenever it rears its head. There wasn't one that said, "Hey guys... this isn't cool"? That alone tells you how deep the problem is.

I still want to slap them though.

rgambs

Empty Glass said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

Thank you for your answer.

"Are you just another ignorant white person..." sure, why not

You are free to add something with more depth if you wish to dispel that notion and prove me wrong.
Why did you ask the question? Did you really want to know the answer (almost as easy to look it up as to ask) or did you want to make some point about race relations? Why not make that point instead of a passive-aggressive, sarcastic? question that only muddies the water? Maybe because it makes it easier to skip out on the real conversation? I don't know, I'm just guessing here.

dignin

KING: Stop using the attack on a mentally challenged white man in Chicago to promote a racist agenda against Black Lives Matter

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-don-chicago-white-assault-case-blm-movement-article-1.2935825

Empty Glass

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

Thank you for your answer.

"Are you just another ignorant white person..." sure, why not

You are free to add something with more depth if you wish to dispel that notion and prove me wrong.
Why did you ask the question? Did you really want to know the answer (almost as easy to look it up as to ask) or did you want to make some point about race relations? Why not make that point instead of a passive-aggressive, sarcastic? question that only muddies the water? Maybe because it makes it easier to skip out on the real conversation? I don't know, I'm just guessing here.

I didn't bother looking it up because I read this story yesterday, said like I'm sure others did "this is horrible" and I moved on. Then it dawned on me, as it did others, imagine if the races were reversed. I'll admit, my original post was tongue in cheek. I was surprised they did speak up. I even went to twitter to see Sharpton's tweet and it made me feel good.

Why was I surprised and why did the tweet make me feel good? Maybe it's because I'm an ignorant white guy as you said. These two seem to be all over my TV when it's white on black crime. I don't seem to read or hear about a rally to end black on black crime from these two.

We aren't going to solve race relations in this country by separating the races. In my opinion it's what these guys do a lot. Do others do the same? Yep. And things aren't getting better.


Didn't Jackson call NYC "Hymietown" when he ran for President?

rgambs

Empty Glass said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

rgambs said:

Empty Glass said:

Have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton said anything about this yet?

First, I would ask what is your point?
Are you just trying to stir the pot of race issues? Do you have any idea what those 2 men have done in their lives, how many people the have helped? Are you just another ignorant white person who discounts them because they deal with race issues, or do you actually have an opinion based in knowledge deeper than "those guys play the race card, I don't like it"?

Second, yes they have said something about it. Jackson went on MSNBC to talk about and and tweeted that "Violence should not be used as remedy or rhetoric"
Sharpton tweeted "Just talked to Rev. Hatch in Chicago about this senseless, vicious crime. We pledge 1k to the family. A hate crime is deplorable PERIOD!"

Thank you for your answer.

"Are you just another ignorant white person..." sure, why not

You are free to add something with more depth if you wish to dispel that notion and prove me wrong.
Why did you ask the question? Did you really want to know the answer (almost as easy to look it up as to ask) or did you want to make some point about race relations? Why not make that point instead of a passive-aggressive, sarcastic? question that only muddies the water? Maybe because it makes it easier to skip out on the real conversation? I don't know, I'm just guessing here.

I didn't bother looking it up because I read this story yesterday, said like I'm sure others did "this is horrible" and I moved on. Then it dawned on me, as it did others, imagine if the races were reversed. I'll admit, my original post was tongue in cheek. I was surprised they did speak up. I even went to twitter to see Sharpton's tweet and it made me feel good.

Why was I surprised and why did the tweet make me feel good? Maybe it's because I'm an ignorant white guy as you said. These two seem to be all over my TV when it's white on black crime. I don't seem to read or hear about a rally to end black on black crime from these two.

We aren't going to solve race relations in this country by separating the races. In my opinion it's what these guys do a lot. Do others do the same? Yep. And things aren't getting better.


Didn't Jackson call NYC "Hymietown" when he ran for President?

I hear what you are saying, but what do you think they are talking about day in and day out when they visit black congregations and community activists? It doesn't fit the "race baiters" narrative, but they are on the front lines of eliminating "black on black crime".
No, they don't use that phrase or rhetoric, but why should they? Regardless of statistics and the reality on the ground, "black on black crime" and the narrative surrounding that phrase is a go-to for groups and individuals with dubious or openly deplorable racial opinions and motives. Why should they legitimize such a stigma openly when they are working hard to correct it on the ground?