Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,950
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JimmyV said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    you have an issue with a direct, true, statement? 
    understatement of the year
    not sure if this helps

    state·ment
    ˈstātmənt/
    noun
    a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.

    an·swer
    ˈansər/
    noun
    a thing said, written, or done to deal with or as a reaction to a question, statement, or situation.


    I would say what Comey said was exactly that, a "definite or clear expression of something in speech". it was pretty damn clear to me. not sure why you are focusing so headstrong on semantics, is what this boils down to. 
    Lets back up here, I made 1 single post about Comey inserting the phrase "directed at him" in his response to Schiffs question. I thought it was peculiar to add that phrase when
    1. trumps tweet never claimed the "wire tapping" was directed at him 
    2. the same point it made without the phrase "directed at him" included (see below)

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,"

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,"

    I thought is was pretty simple, then the usual suspects ran wild like Hulk-a-mania, tearing off their shirts and screaming profanities.
    "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

    Those are Trump's words. His "wires tapped in Trump Tower." Pretty clear that he was in fact claiming the wiretapping was directed at him.
    Not to mention:

    Obama did it
    - no, the President can not order wiretaps

    Nothing found
    - then why is Mueller allegedly threatening Manafort with indictments?

    McCarthyigm
    - add this to the list of complicated things that tRump doesn't understand
    All this man-splaining has made me hungry, Im thinking about indicting a "ham sandwich"
    I'm full up on alt-stupid, if only we could figure out how to power our automobiles on it, anyway "let me sleep" on my assertions and we'll catch up tomrw.
    Yes, everyone is stupid but you.  Keep thinking that.  See if you can find some Jay Carney "truths" to validate your point.  
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,683
    edited September 2017
    JimmyV said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    you have an issue with a direct, true, statement? 
    understatement of the year
    not sure if this helps

    state·ment
    ˈstātmənt/
    noun
    a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.

    an·swer
    ˈansər/
    noun
    a thing said, written, or done to deal with or as a reaction to a question, statement, or situation.


    I would say what Comey said was exactly that, a "definite or clear expression of something in speech". it was pretty damn clear to me. not sure why you are focusing so headstrong on semantics, is what this boils down to. 
    Lets back up here, I made 1 single post about Comey inserting the phrase "directed at him" in his response to Schiffs question. I thought it was peculiar to add that phrase when
    1. trumps tweet never claimed the "wire tapping" was directed at him 
    2. the same point it made without the phrase "directed at him" included (see below)

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,"

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,"

    I thought is was pretty simple, then the usual suspects ran wild like Hulk-a-mania, tearing off their shirts and screaming profanities.
    "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

    Those are Trump's words. His "wires tapped in Trump Tower." Pretty clear that he was in fact claiming the wiretapping was directed at him.
    Obvious to anyone except those with an agenda to, predictably, muddy up the waters.
    chinese-happy.jpg
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,571
    edited September 2017
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JimmyV said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    you have an issue with a direct, true, statement? 
    understatement of the year
    not sure if this helps

    state·ment
    ˈstātmənt/
    noun
    a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.

    an·swer
    ˈansər/
    noun
    a thing said, written, or done to deal with or as a reaction to a question, statement, or situation.


    I would say what Comey said was exactly that, a "definite or clear expression of something in speech". it was pretty damn clear to me. not sure why you are focusing so headstrong on semantics, is what this boils down to. 
    Lets back up here, I made 1 single post about Comey inserting the phrase "directed at him" in his response to Schiffs question. I thought it was peculiar to add that phrase when
    1. trumps tweet never claimed the "wire tapping" was directed at him 
    2. the same point it made without the phrase "directed at him" included (see below)

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,"

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,"

    I thought is was pretty simple, then the usual suspects ran wild like Hulk-a-mania, tearing off their shirts and screaming profanities.
    "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

    Those are Trump's words. His "wires tapped in Trump Tower." Pretty clear that he was in fact claiming the wiretapping was directed at him.
    Not to mention:

    Obama did it
    - no, the President can not order wiretaps

    Nothing found
    - then why is Mueller allegedly threatening Manafort with indictments?

    McCarthyigm
    - add this to the list of complicated things that tRump doesn't understand
    All this man-splaining has made me hungry, Im thinking about indicting a "ham sandwich"
    I'm full up on alt-stupid, if only we could figure out how to power our automobiles on it, anyway "let me sleep" on my assertions and we'll catch up tomrw.
    not often I get to reference an article from Cracked.com, much less 2 days in a row - yet here we are
    CM189191 said:
    "There's this tone that implies they're smarter than everyone else, that they're dropping profound truth bombs that we're all too dumb or irrational to see. They talk about humanity like they're not part of it, like by saying "The fact that more people use Instagram than Wolfram is proof that #humanityisdoomed #notgettinglaid." They talk like they've evolved beyond us mere mortals and our petty problems, and they only grace us with their presence because they're stuck with us. They should be discussing impenetrably deep concepts with beings of pure light and Mark Twain's disembodied brain. Instead, fate has trapped them in Virginia.

    Remember that kid at school who always bragged about how smart he was, but never did any work? They're that kid. They want to acknowledge the problem without doing anything about it, to appear intelligent without being intelligent, because they equate dispassionate cynicism with genius. But what they truly are, almost invariably, are people who are unaffected by whatever news story they're declaring to be proof that Rome has fallen. They are above everyone else, but only in the sense that after pronouncing our species doomed, they can head to Starbucks instead of having to deal with the floodwaters rising around them..."

    The Single Most Entitled Reaction To Modern Problems

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  • JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JimmyV said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    you have an issue with a direct, true, statement? 
    understatement of the year
    not sure if this helps

    state·ment
    ˈstātmənt/
    noun
    a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.

    an·swer
    ˈansər/
    noun
    a thing said, written, or done to deal with or as a reaction to a question, statement, or situation.


    I would say what Comey said was exactly that, a "definite or clear expression of something in speech". it was pretty damn clear to me. not sure why you are focusing so headstrong on semantics, is what this boils down to. 
    Lets back up here, I made 1 single post about Comey inserting the phrase "directed at him" in his response to Schiffs question. I thought it was peculiar to add that phrase when
    1. trumps tweet never claimed the "wire tapping" was directed at him 
    2. the same point it made without the phrase "directed at him" included (see below)

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,"

    "With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,"

    I thought is was pretty simple, then the usual suspects ran wild like Hulk-a-mania, tearing off their shirts and screaming profanities.
    "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

    Those are Trump's words. His "wires tapped in Trump Tower." Pretty clear that he was in fact claiming the wiretapping was directed at him.
    Not to mention:

    Obama did it
    - no, the President can not order wiretaps

    Nothing found
    - then why is Mueller allegedly threatening Manafort with indictments?

    McCarthyigm
    - add this to the list of complicated things that tRump doesn't understand
    All this man-splaining has made me hungry, Im thinking about indicting a "ham sandwich"
    I'm full up on alt-stupid, if only we could figure out how to power our automobiles on it, anyway "let me sleep" on my assertions and we'll catch up tomrw.
    Some 3D weak sauce to go with that nothing burger. 3D is exhausted from D'ing. Needs sleep. The sun will rise and shine on the indictments tomorrow. 7Xs.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    this confirms the Russia Russia Russia hoax

    committee to investigate Russia

    Rob Reiner
    The committee's advisory board, which will oversee the progress of the nonprofit organization, includes top influencers from both sides of the aisle including former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, Council on Foreign Relations senior fellow Max Boot, American Enterprise Institute resident scholar Norman Ornstein and others.
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    James Clapper 

    CLAPPER:But I will say that, for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against– the president elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign. I can’t speak for other Title Three authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity.

    TODD: Yeah, I was just going to say, if the F.B.I., for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know?
    CLAPPER:  Yes.
    TODD:  You would be told this?
    CLAPPER:  I would know that.
    TODD:  If there was a FISA court order–
    CLAPPER:  Yes.
    TODD:  –on something like this.
    CLAPPER:  Something like this, absolutely.
    TODD:  And at this point, you can’t confirm or deny whether that exists?
    CLAPPER:  I can deny it.
    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
    big·otˈbiɡət/ noun: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • JC29856 said:
    this confirms the Russia Russia Russia hoax

    committee to investigate Russia

    Rob Reiner
    The committee's advisory board, which will oversee the progress of the nonprofit organization, includes top influencers from both sides of the aisle including former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, Council on Foreign Relations senior fellow Max Boot, American Enterprise Institute resident scholar Norman Ornstein and others.
    Ummmmm, sure.
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  • JC29856 said:
    James Clapper 

    CLAPPER:But I will say that, for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against– the president elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign. I can’t speak for other Title Three authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity.

    TODD: Yeah, I was just going to say, if the F.B.I., for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know?
    CLAPPER:  Yes.
    TODD:  You would be told this?
    CLAPPER:  I would know that.
    TODD:  If there was a FISA court order–
    CLAPPER:  Yes.
    TODD:  –on something like this.
    CLAPPER:  Something like this, absolutely.
    TODD:  And at this point, you can’t confirm or deny whether that exists?
    CLAPPER:  I can deny it.
    Link? Date? Larger context? And your point is? 
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  • He won't even pay for his legal fees all on campaign funds dime he's the best total crooked billionaire!!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Nobody tell them there is already an on going investigation, but if you do also tell them who the current Russian Ambassador is.

    https://investigaterussia.org
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/

    Russias mass spying apparatus


    “I used to spend a lot of time in this room...back when it was a shit hole and I was a shit head.”
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    big·ot·ryˈbiɡətrē/ noun: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,571
    JC29856 said:
    James Clapper 

    CLAPPER:But I will say that, for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against– the president elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign. I can’t speak for other Title Three authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity.

    TODD: Yeah, I was just going to say, if the F.B.I., for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know?
    CLAPPER:  Yes.
    TODD:  You would be told this?
    CLAPPER:  I would know that.
    TODD:  If there was a FISA court order–
    CLAPPER:  Yes.
    TODD:  –on something like this.
    CLAPPER:  Something like this, absolutely.
    TODD:  And at this point, you can’t confirm or deny whether that exists?
    CLAPPER:  I can deny it.

    He can deny it
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,950

    Do NOT let accuracy get in the way of the muddy machine.  
  • CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    James Clapper 

    CLAPPER:But I will say that, for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against– the president elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign. I can’t speak for other Title Three authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity.

    TODD: Yeah, I was just going to say, if the F.B.I., for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know?
    CLAPPER:  Yes.
    TODD:  You would be told this?
    CLAPPER:  I would know that.
    TODD:  If there was a FISA court order–
    CLAPPER:  Yes.
    TODD:  –on something like this.
    CLAPPER:  Something like this, absolutely.
    TODD:  And at this point, you can’t confirm or deny whether that exists?
    CLAPPER:  I can deny it.

    He can deny it
    You dont say? 3D, D'ing? Surprise, surprise.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    propaganda? even Morgan Freemans voice can't convince me we are at war with Russia Russia Russia. how bout you?


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  • JC29856 said:
    propaganda? even Morgan Freemans voice can't convince me we are at war with Russia Russia Russia. how bout you?


    Drama much?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,950
    JC29856 said:
    propaganda? even Morgan Freemans voice can't convince me we are at war with Russia Russia Russia. how bout you?


    It's too bad you hate America.  
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 10,430
    JC29856 said:
    propaganda? even Morgan Freemans voice can't convince me we are at war with Russia Russia Russia. how bout you?


    Drama much?
    Well, Freeman is a dramatic actor.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon In My PlacePosts: 19,201
    JC29856 said:
    propaganda? even Morgan Freemans voice can't convince me we are at war with Russia Russia Russia. how bout you?


    Drama much?
    Well, Freeman is a dramatic actor.
    I imagine, for whatever reason, that he is exactly the same in real life. :lol:
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  • JC29856 said:
    propaganda? even Morgan Freemans voice can't convince me we are at war with Russia Russia Russia. how bout you?


    Drama much?
    Well, Freeman is a dramatic actor.
    I stand corrected.
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  • Nope, none, zero, nada, nyet, zilch evidence of collusion here. Good thing those brilliant headlines are brilliantly disappearing into the brilliant abyss of brilliance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/manafort-offered-to-give-russian-billionaire-private-briefings-on-2016-campaign/2017/09/20/399bba1a-9d48-11e7-8ea1-ed975285475e_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_manafort-520pm:homepage/story
     
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,861
    Nope, none, zero, nada, nyet, zilch evidence of collusion here. Good thing those brilliant headlines are brilliantly disappearing into the brilliant abyss of brilliance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/manafort-offered-to-give-russian-billionaire-private-briefings-on-2016-campaign/2017/09/20/399bba1a-9d48-11e7-8ea1-ed975285475e_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_manafort-520pm:homepage/story
     

    "Investigators believe that key passages refer to Deripaska. The billionaire is referenced in some places by his initials, “OVD,” and one email invokes an expensive Russian delicacy in what investigators believe is a veiled reference to Manafort’s past work with Deripaska."

    Using food...as a code? Where have I heard that before?

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  • JimmyV said:
    Nope, none, zero, nada, nyet, zilch evidence of collusion here. Good thing those brilliant headlines are brilliantly disappearing into the brilliant abyss of brilliance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/manafort-offered-to-give-russian-billionaire-private-briefings-on-2016-campaign/2017/09/20/399bba1a-9d48-11e7-8ea1-ed975285475e_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_manafort-520pm:homepage/story
     

    "Investigators believe that key passages refer to Deripaska. The billionaire is referenced in some places by his initials, “OVD,” and one email invokes an expensive Russian delicacy in what investigators believe is a veiled reference to Manafort’s past work with Deripaska."

    Using food...as a code? Where have I heard that before?

    Manafort and Trump members of Comet Pizza frequent buyers club? Oh my!
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  • JimmyV said:
    Nope, none, zero, nada, nyet, zilch evidence of collusion here. Good thing those brilliant headlines are brilliantly disappearing into the brilliant abyss of brilliance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/manafort-offered-to-give-russian-billionaire-private-briefings-on-2016-campaign/2017/09/20/399bba1a-9d48-11e7-8ea1-ed975285475e_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_manafort-520pm:homepage/story
     

    "Investigators believe that key passages refer to Deripaska. The billionaire is referenced in some places by his initials, “OVD,” and one email invokes an expensive Russian delicacy in what investigators believe is a veiled reference to Manafort’s past work with Deripaska."

    Using food...as a code? Where have I heard that before?

    You're a portly fella...

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    CM189191 said:



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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 47,758
    Wow.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/09/21/facebook-to-give-congress-copies-of-3000-political-ads-bought-through-russian-accounts-reversing-previous-decision/?utm_term=.e7c3a73dc932

    Facebook to give Congress copies of 3,000 political ads bought through Russian accounts, reversing previous decision

    By Washington Post Staff September 21 at 3:26 PM

    The company had previously shown some of the ads to Capitol Hill investigators but took back copies before they could be studied carefully, citing concerns over user privacy at the time. Facebook has reversed that position amid rising complaints from Capitol Hill that the company was not cooperating fully with its investigation.

    Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg was to announce the decision on Facebook Live at 3:30 p.m. Eastern Time, citing “an extensive legal and policy review” that concluded that it was “vitally important” to cooperate fully with Congress and that the company could do so in a way that didn’t endanger user privacy, according to a blog post by Facebook General Counsel Colin Stretch.

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