Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,447
    Sessions did not disclose meetings with Russian ambassador

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/01/politics/jeff-sessions-russian-ambassador-meetings/index.html
    my2hands said:

    If Jeff Sessions gets tossed I'm rolling a joint the size of my thumb

    FOLLOW THE FUCKING RUBLES!!!

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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    going nuclear..nuclear..
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Interesting little 1 minute mashup of Trump making statements about his relationship to Russia/Putin courtesy of Rachel Maddow:

    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    jeffbr said:

    Interesting little 1 minute mashup of Trump making statements about his relationship to Russia/Putin courtesy of Rachel Maddow:

    It's almost as if he will lie or say anything to advance his immediate objective, regardless of the truth or the consequences. If I was a cynical man, I might be concerned about such inconsistencies. Alas, I prefer to be a lemming.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Kushner and Flynn Met With Russian Envoy in December, White House Says

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-russia.html?ref=politics
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Kushner?????

    Say it isn't so?????

    Bwahahahaha
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    jeffbr said:

    Interesting little 1 minute mashup of Trump making statements about his relationship to Russia/Putin courtesy of Rachel Maddow:

    #owned
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    Where are the Trump tweets? He's running silent, running deep?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    vaggar99 said:

    i'm about 80% sure that the investigation has lost momentum and will soon fizzle out. at least we can hope for a new PJ album this year.
    How are you feeling about that 80% now? Good, bad, indifferent? I think its gaining momentum and will continue to do so. There is a whole lot of "there" there.

    Follow the money like Congress minus Ted Cruz, from Russia with love, impeach Trump.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427

    vaggar99 said:

    i'm about 80% sure that the investigation has lost momentum and will soon fizzle out. at least we can hope for a new PJ album this year.
    How are you feeling about that 80% now? Good, bad, indifferent? I think its gaining momentum and will continue to do so. There is a whole lot of "there" there.

    Follow the money like Congress minus Ted Cruz, from Russia with love, impeach Trump.
    i will post the same thing next week when i start to feel like things are too quiet. and then BAM! its on (i hope).
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427

    Where are the Trump tweets? He's running silent, running deep?

    i heard one of the new networks say it best. "Trump's had an intervention". Let's see how long this rehab stint lasts.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    He can't really claim fake news on this... Too much happening.

    The whole thing is so terrible. The interesting part is that both Flynn and Sessions would have legitimate reasons to be communicating with the Russian officials. They didn't have to lie. Yet they did. So why would they do that?
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    vaggar99 said:

    Where are the Trump tweets? He's running silent, running deep?

    i heard one of the new networks say it best. "Trump's had an intervention". Let's see how long this rehab stint lasts.
    oh, see i get a plane and in that time Trump fell off the wagon. He's gonna need some serious 12 step shit to get off this one.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    mrussel1 said:

    He can't really claim fake news on this... Too much happening.

    The whole thing is so terrible. The interesting part is that both Flynn and Sessions would have legitimate reasons to be communicating with the Russian officials. They didn't have to lie. Yet they did. So why would they do that?

    That's exactly it. You nailed it. There is no legit reason for them to lie...but they did.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024

    mrussel1 said:

    He can't really claim fake news on this... Too much happening.

    The whole thing is so terrible. The interesting part is that both Flynn and Sessions would have legitimate reasons to be communicating with the Russian officials. They didn't have to lie. Yet they did. So why would they do that?

    That's exactly it. You nailed it. There is no legit reason for them to lie...but they did.
    There is a legit reason for them to lie and attempt to quash the Russian connections by reaching out to the agencies asking them to say there's no issue. And that legit reason will turn out to be illegal and lead to impeachment.

    Follow the money like Congress minus Cruz, from Russia with love, impeach Trump.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,447
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    Ok I have to ask so Sessions can remember meeting/trips to Russia from 91 and what was discussed then as part of a church trip yet he can't recall what he discussed with Russian ambassador 4 months ago lol , these fools really believe this nation is full of idiots like the ones that voted for orange bafoon...
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    Ok I have to ask so Sessions can remember meeting/trips to Russia from 91 and what was discussed then as part of a church trip yet he can't recall what he discussed with Russian ambassador 4 months ago lol , these fools really believe this nation is full of idiots like the ones that voted for orange bafoon...

    And we know Sessions can't blame smoking pot for short term memory issues lol
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    my2hands said:

    Ok I have to ask so Sessions can remember meeting/trips to Russia from 91 and what was discussed then as part of a church trip yet he can't recall what he discussed with Russian ambassador 4 months ago lol , these fools really believe this nation is full of idiots like the ones that voted for orange bafoon...

    And we know Sessions can't blame smoking pot for short term memory issues lol
    he actually looks more like an alcoholic to me
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675

    mrussel1 said:

    He can't really claim fake news on this... Too much happening.

    The whole thing is so terrible. The interesting part is that both Flynn and Sessions would have legitimate reasons to be communicating with the Russian officials. They didn't have to lie. Yet they did. So why would they do that?

    That's exactly it. You nailed it. There is no legit reason for them to lie...but they did.
    There is a legit reason for them to lie and attempt to quash the Russian connections by reaching out to the agencies asking them to say there's no issue. And that legit reason will turn out to be illegal and lead to impeachment.

    Follow the money like Congress minus Cruz, from Russia with love, impeach Trump.
    Right but they could have de-escalated the whole situation from the start without anyone realizing what was/did happen. Krauthammer last night said "it's a cover up in search of a crime". Now I don't believe there isn't a crime, but you get my drift. The whole thing could have been avoided.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Did anyone here call for Holder's resignation when he was held in contempt for lying under Oath?

    Don't bother answering, I already know.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    unsung said:

    Did anyone here call for Holder's resignation when he was held in contempt for lying under Oath?

    Don't bother answering, I already know.

    False equivalency but thanks for trying.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Just pointing out the hypocritical agenda.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    unsung said:

    Did anyone here call for Holder's resignation when he was held in contempt for lying under Oath?

    Don't bother answering, I already know.

    Are you sure you have that right? He was held in contempt for refusing to turn over certain documents under executive privilege. It was a long time ago and my memory may be a little faded. But post a link that it was for perjury please.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    Did anyone here call for Holder's resignation when he was held in contempt for lying under Oath?

    Don't bother answering, I already know.

    Are you sure you have that right? He was held in contempt for refusing to turn over certain documents under executive privilege. It was a long time ago and my memory may be a little faded. But post a link that it was for perjury please.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/justice-department-eric-holder-didnt-commit-perjury/
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    Did anyone here call for Holder's resignation when he was held in contempt for lying under Oath?

    Don't bother answering, I already know.

    Are you sure you have that right? He was held in contempt for refusing to turn over certain documents under executive privilege. It was a long time ago and my memory may be a little faded. But post a link that it was for perjury please.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/justice-department-eric-holder-didnt-commit-perjury/
    So he wasn't tried or convicted in congress. And I was trying not to be a smart ass, but being held in contempt and committing perjury are two different charges.
    Either way, the 'example' is full of shit.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    unsung said:

    Just pointing out the hypocritical agenda.

    Alt-right revisionist hypocritical agenda.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    Did anyone here call for Holder's resignation when he was held in contempt for lying under Oath?

    Don't bother answering, I already know.

    Are you sure you have that right? He was held in contempt for refusing to turn over certain documents under executive privilege. It was a long time ago and my memory may be a little faded. But post a link that it was for perjury please.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/justice-department-eric-holder-didnt-commit-perjury/
    So he wasn't tried or convicted in congress. And I was trying not to be a smart ass, but being held in contempt and committing perjury are two different charges.
    Either way, the 'example' is full of shit.
    Consider the source.
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