My memory isn't that intel said Iraq had wmd, it's that they presented flimsy evidence, acknowledged as such, and Bush and friends stretched that into fabricated evidence to build up the case to go to war.
Your memory is massively wrong. George Tenent, who was also the CIA Director to President Clinton, called the evidence a slam dunk. Some of the evidence turned out to be flimsy and/or wrong but it was the product of the intelligence agencies that for some reason now nobody is allowed to question.
My memory isn't that intel said Iraq had wmd, it's that they presented flimsy evidence, acknowledged as such, and Bush and friends stretched that into fabricated evidence to build up the case to go to war.
Your memory is massively wrong. George Tenent, who was also the CIA Director to President Clinton, called the evidence a slam dunk. Some of the evidence turned out to be flimsy and/or wrong but it was the product of the intelligence agencies that for some reason now nobody is allowed to question.
Which part of the evidence turned out to be a "slam dunk?"
My memory isn't that intel said Iraq had wmd, it's that they presented flimsy evidence, acknowledged as such, and Bush and friends stretched that into fabricated evidence to build up the case to go to war.
Your memory is massively wrong. George Tenent, who was also the CIA Director to President Clinton, called the evidence a slam dunk. Some of the evidence turned out to be flimsy and/or wrong but it was the product of the intelligence agencies that for some reason now nobody is allowed to question.
Why are you bringing Clinton into your argument? Because Tenet served two different administrations with opposing political ideologies? Does this some how make Tenet, under Bush/Cheney, reputable or give their lies a pass?
My memory isn't that intel said Iraq had wmd, it's that they presented flimsy evidence, acknowledged as such, and Bush and friends stretched that into fabricated evidence to build up the case to go to war.
Your memory is massively wrong. George Tenent, who was also the CIA Director to President Clinton, called the evidence a slam dunk. Some of the evidence turned out to be flimsy and/or wrong but it was the product of the intelligence agencies that for some reason now nobody is allowed to question.
Why are you bringing Clinton into your argument? Because Tenet served two different administrations with opposing political ideologies? Does this some how make Tenet, under Bush/Cheney, reputable or give their lies a pass?
Nice cherry picking, distinguished professor.
What I am doing is answering Go Beavers. The intel said Iraq had WMD. I am not defending the intel or Tenent. I am reminding Beavers what the intel amassed under a Democratic appointed CIA director said. Please try to follow along Halifax...this is not a complex thread for you to understand.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
My memory isn't that intel said Iraq had wmd, it's that they presented flimsy evidence, acknowledged as such, and Bush and friends stretched that into fabricated evidence to build up the case to go to war.
Your memory is massively wrong. George Tenent, who was also the CIA Director to President Clinton, called the evidence a slam dunk. Some of the evidence turned out to be flimsy and/or wrong but it was the product of the intelligence agencies that for some reason now nobody is allowed to question.
Why are you bringing Clinton into your argument? Because Tenet served two different administrations with opposing political ideologies? Does this some how make Tenet, under Bush/Cheney, reputable or give their lies a pass?
Nice cherry picking, distinguished professor.
What I am doing is answering Go Beavers. The intel said Iraq had WMD. I am not defending the intel or Tenent. I am reminding Beavers what the intel amassed under a Democratic appointed CIA director said. Please try to follow along Halifax...this is not a complex thread for you to understand.
While willfully ignoring other sources of intel that pointed in different directions but not the neocon desired outcome. You forgot "cherry picked" in front of the word intel, thus perpetuating the myth that Bush/Cheney were legitimate in their decision making while also ignoring the pressure applied to the intel agencies by Cheney and his henchmen for their desired outcome of war in Iraq.
Where has Obama done the same as it relates to Russia meddling in our electoral process? Everything is not a black and white view from down your neocon nose and ivory tower, professor.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
My representative doesn't have access to the classified report and he said even if he did he wouldn't offer any opinion on it given Chuck Schumers 6 ways until Sunday comment. I too thought the unclassified report was made available to congress. Maybe Susan Hennessey has some answers.
Wow, those Podesta emails sure do trigger. They weren't my emails, they weren't doctored or edited, they were John Podestas. Plus the thread was closed long ago.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
I thought they only did that in Russia and pre regime change Iraq?
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
Wow, those Podesta emails sure do trigger. They weren't my emails, they weren't doctored or edited, they were John Podestas. Plus the thread was closed long ago.
No, maybe not, but you did repeatedly misrepresent what they contained or allegedly alluded to. Repeatedly. And you continue to make references to serious allegations with no basis in fact in the two remaining open threads, relying upon questionable sources with hidden agendas and thus far, made up code. Now, who's triggered?
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
I thought they only did that in Russia and pre regime change Iraq?
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
Ok so what does that have to do with Bafoon being in bed with Putin .
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
I thought they only did that in Russia and pre regime change Iraq?
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
Is that what Schumer said or do you pretend to know what he's thinking? There are legitimate reasons why some information is kept secret. Don't worry, trump will be a master at it, seen his tax returns yet?
Wow, those Podesta emails sure do trigger. They weren't my emails, they weren't doctored or edited, they were John Podestas. Plus the thread was closed long ago.
No, maybe not, but you did repeatedly misrepresent what they contained or allegedly alluded to. Repeatedly. And you continue to make references to serious allegations with no basis in fact in the two remaining open threads, relying upon questionable sources with hidden agendas and thus far, made up code. Now, who's triggered?
Some subjects are not for everyone for whatever reasons, advice to those, don't click!
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
I am actually amazed that this quote hasn't generated more controversy. Even though most people know this to be true It is direct confirmation that the intelligence agencies attempt to operate outside civilian authority. While of course career agents should be listened to they are required to work for and not against elected representatives. If any agent disagrees with the President and/or his CIA chief then the honourable thing to do is resign. Leaking and/or "getting back" at their superior in any other way does great damage to the agency and proves that the bureaucracy is serious need of reform.
Wow, those Podesta emails sure do trigger. They weren't my emails, they weren't doctored or edited, they were John Podestas. Plus the thread was closed long ago.
No, maybe not, but you did repeatedly misrepresent what they contained or allegedly alluded to. Repeatedly. And you continue to make references to serious allegations with no basis in fact in the two remaining open threads, relying upon questionable sources with hidden agendas and thus far, made up code. Now, who's triggered?
Some subjects are not for everyone for whatever reasons, advice to those, don't click!
See? That's the thing. I did read your posts and I did click the links provided. And your characterizations weren't accurate. They were misleading and bullshit. Typical alt-right tactic. Throw it out, hope the audience doesn't think critically and then deny and distract. Congratulations on passing Putin's propaganda misinformation 101 class.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
I am actually amazed that this quote hasn't generated more controversy. Even though most people know this to be true It is direct confirmation that the intelligence agencies attempt to operate outside civilian authority. While of course career agents should be listened to they are required to work for and not against elected representatives. If any agent disagrees with the President and/or his CIA chief then the honourable thing to do is resign. Leaking and/or "getting back" at their superior in any other way does great damage to the agency and proves that the bureaucracy is serious need of reform.
It was a bird dog to trump and his cabinet for sure. Chuck lifetime has been on tv more than trump, he knows exactly what to say and listens to his orders. It all ties in.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
I am actually amazed that this quote hasn't generated more controversy. Even though most people know this to be true It is direct confirmation that the intelligence agencies attempt to operate outside civilian authority. While of course career agents should be listened to they are required to work for and not against elected representatives. If any agent disagrees with the President and/or his CIA chief then the honourable thing to do is resign. Leaking and/or "getting back" at their superior in any other way does great damage to the agency and proves that the bureaucracy is serious need of reform.
It was a bird dog to trump and his cabinet for sure. Chuck lifetime has been on tv more than trump, he knows exactly what to say and listens to his orders. It all ties in.
Wow, those Podesta emails sure do trigger. They weren't my emails, they weren't doctored or edited, they were John Podestas. Plus the thread was closed long ago.
No, maybe not, but you did repeatedly misrepresent what they contained or allegedly alluded to. Repeatedly. And you continue to make references to serious allegations with no basis in fact in the two remaining open threads, relying upon questionable sources with hidden agendas and thus far, made up code. Now, who's triggered?
Some subjects are not for everyone for whatever reasons, advice to those, don't click!
Some like to eat bullshit, others don't. Continue to eat away.
Wow, those Podesta emails sure do trigger. They weren't my emails, they weren't doctored or edited, they were John Podestas. Plus the thread was closed long ago.
No, maybe not, but you did repeatedly misrepresent what they contained or allegedly alluded to. Repeatedly. And you continue to make references to serious allegations with no basis in fact in the two remaining open threads, relying upon questionable sources with hidden agendas and thus far, made up code. Now, who's triggered?
Some subjects are not for everyone for whatever reasons, advice to those, don't click!
See? That's the thing. I did read your posts and I did click the links provided. And your characterizations weren't accurate. They were misleading and bullshit. Typical alt-right tactic. Throw it out, hope the audience doesn't think critically and then deny and distract. Congratulations on passing Putin's propaganda misinformation 101 class.
H2M I don't remember any genuine rebuttals, not 1, I remember you within minutes following up my posts with non-sense, which is okay, I don't tell people what or what not to post, I remember 2 whole pages of 1 word threads, which I thought was hilarious, I remember stereotypes and labels (scan up the page) but I don't remember genuine rebuttal. Maybe I'm wrong, it's still accessible, I'll go back thru and look if you had anything worth replying to.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
I am actually amazed that this quote hasn't generated more controversy. Even though most people know this to be true It is direct confirmation that the intelligence agencies attempt to operate outside civilian authority. While of course career agents should be listened to they are required to work for and not against elected representatives. If any agent disagrees with the President and/or his CIA chief then the honourable thing to do is resign. Leaking and/or "getting back" at their superior in any other way does great damage to the agency and proves that the bureaucracy is serious need of reform.
I generally agree with this comment and am fairly certain there are agents, directors, etc. that believe they operate above the law. They probably get a way with it more often than they should. But that manifests itself into politically damaging leaks, conjecture, misinformation, etc. Were Chuck in Russia, he would end up like Boris Nemtsov or the former president of Yukos.
I think I said before that the reports were completed by interns.
This from above link... That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
You somehow think the what was released publicly is the same as what was released to the oversight committees. Believe who you want.
You seem to think that I'm referencing the "classified report", I know that it was intended for the oversight committees and nbc sources. The American public and congress only get to see the unclassified version. I would think some of the reporting has to be similar. I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
No, we live in a representational democracy. Those representatives are your voices. Call your congressional rep. Ask them what they think about the evidence. If you don't believe the rep, vote against them next time. Campaign against them. Organize against them. The good news is it won't land you in jail or dead, which is different than Putin's Russia.
Or peddle pedophilia allegations against them.
Exactly.. JC should be so thankful because 90% of the shit he posts would land him in jail as an enemy of the state. Maybe that's why he won't give up his US citizenship and move there. But that's how Leninists like him operate. They only seek to destroy institutions, never improving them. They support nothing, they are against everything.
"Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you," Schumer told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
I am actually amazed that this quote hasn't generated more controversy. Even though most people know this to be true It is direct confirmation that the intelligence agencies attempt to operate outside civilian authority. While of course career agents should be listened to they are required to work for and not against elected representatives. If any agent disagrees with the President and/or his CIA chief then the honourable thing to do is resign. Leaking and/or "getting back" at their superior in any other way does great damage to the agency and proves that the bureaucracy is serious need of reform.
I generally agree with this comment and am fairly certain there are agents, directors, etc. that believe they operate above the law. They probably get a way with it more often than they should. But that manifests itself into politically damaging leaks, conjecture, misinformation, etc. Were Chuck in Russia, he would end up like Boris Nemtsov or the former president of Yukos.
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https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/9937516/Iraq-war-the-greatest-intelligence-failure-in-living-memory.html
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Nice cherry picking, distinguished professor.
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http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/01/09/russia-trump-election-flawed-intelligence/
Breaks down the entire report.
This from above link...
That is the entirety of the evidence the report offers to support its estimation of Putin’s motives for allegedly working to elect Trump: conjecture based on other politicians in other periods, on other continents—and also on misreported or mistranslated public statements.
Where has Obama done the same as it relates to Russia meddling in our electoral process? Everything is not a black and white view from down your neocon nose and ivory tower, professor.
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I know you have deep hatred for Russia but dont you think we and all members of congress should at least see some compelling evidence before threatening nuclear nations and calling for sanctions? Where do we live in Russia, what is this a federal republic?
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Maybe Susan Hennessey has some answers.
This always helps me...
Getting back at you meaning "landing you in jail or dead".
I thought they only did that in Russia and pre regime change Iraq?
What did Chuck the leading democrat mean when he said this? Senate minority leader and career politician must know something.
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my bad