Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited December 2016
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    CM189191 said:

    ^^^
    The last minute was like listening to AMT radlibs against the straight talkers.

    I learned a new word today: conservatroll
    hadn't heard that one before
    I learned libtroll today. :lol:
    Conservatroll
    A internet troll who tries to popularize conservative beliefs. Along with his counterpart and nemesis, the libtroll, he is the most poisonous of trolls

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Conservatroll
    idk...just doesn't have the same ring to it
    conservatroll seems to just roll off the tongue

    connnnnserrrrrvatroooolllllll
    see what I mean? :lol:
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    When you don't agree with them.

    JC and others will believe a random meme on the internet before they will believe an article from The Washington Post, NBC or The New York Times. It doesn't fit their viewpoint.

    That's how Trumps are elected.
    Nothing to do with me. I posted government officials agencies that don't agree with it or will not confirm it. You have anyone or agency that does agree with it?
    Post it.........

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/19/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-blames-russia-putin-wikileaks-rele/

  • JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
    Shits gigs & trigs


    Wow
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
    Okay... so you admit you're just trolling. That is a relief!
    Yes, please stop posting stupid memes. They degrade the conversation. Thanks! :)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2016
    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    When you don't agree with them.

    JC and others will believe a random meme on the internet before they will believe an article from The Washington Post, NBC or The New York Times. It doesn't fit their viewpoint.

    That's how Trumps are elected.
    Nothing to do with me. I posted government officials agencies that don't agree with it or will not confirm it. You have anyone or agency that does agree with it?
    Post it.........

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/19/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-blames-russia-putin-wikileaks-rele/
    How can 17 agencies agree with a WaPo article that sites anonymous sources weeks before the article was published?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478




    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
    Shits gigs & trigs


    Wow
    JC once added value to the AMT, but here you have it, nothing more than a Troll now.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    or maybe:
    image
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
    Okay... so you admit you're just trolling. That is a relief!
    Yes, please stop posting stupid memes. They degrade the conversation. Thanks! :)
    Is repeatedly posting polling graphics considered trolling and degrading conversation?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I like it. I think it is a good representation. I'm sure we could all make little tweaks, but in general this looks good to me.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
    Okay... so you admit you're just trolling. That is a relief!
    Yes, please stop posting stupid memes. They degrade the conversation. Thanks! :)
    Is repeatedly posting polling graphics considered trolling and degrading conversation?
    No. Showing poll results with a graphic isn't trolling. Just because something is a graphic it doesn't mean it's trolling. It's the content and the frequency of that content and the context that it's posted in that makes it trolling or not trolling. Anyway, you said you'd stop if I asked you to, so I did. Thank you! Much appreciated! :)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    jeffbr said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I like it. I think it is a good representation. I'm sure we could all make little tweaks, but in general this looks good to me.
    I hate when I start reading an article in the Atlantic, and I realize 20 minutes later the article is a small novel and I'm 1/10th of the way through it. Maybe I'm a slow reader, but I don't have time for some of those tomes.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    jeffbr said:

    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I like it. I think it is a good representation. I'm sure we could all make little tweaks, but in general this looks good to me.
    Agree, although I think Fox News should be a bit farther over to the right.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    I like the Atlantic, it's interesting they have it slightly to the left considering David Frum is a senior editor there. All in all that graphic is fairly accurate. Like jeff said, I would move some stuff around a little.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
    Okay... so you admit you're just trolling. That is a relief!
    Yes, please stop posting stupid memes. They degrade the conversation. Thanks! :)
    Is repeatedly posting polling graphics considered trolling and degrading conversation?
    No. Showing poll results with a graphic isn't trolling. Just because something is a graphic it doesn't mean it's trolling. It's the content and the frequency of that content and the context that it's posted in that makes it trolling or not trolling. Anyway, you said you'd stop if I asked you to, so I did. Thank you! Much appreciated! :)
    I try to engage in conversation but then this happens:

    dignin said:

    » show previous quotes
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/19/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-blames-russia-putin-wikileaks-rele/
    jc said:
    How can 17 agencies agree with a WaPo article that sites anonymous sources weeks before the article was published on Nov 9th, 2016?

    Then I feel the need for the triggerous comic relief memes provide... understand?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
    Okay... so you admit you're just trolling. That is a relief!
    Yes, please stop posting stupid memes. They degrade the conversation. Thanks! :)
    Would this be classified as conversation degradation?
    here I thought we were talking about a WaPo article that was talking about Russia Russia Russia undermining democracy by having a hand in the elections, and I get a politifact reference to wikileaks. ignoring that wikileaks has 100% track record and has stated that the leak wasnt a hack from Russia Russia Russia, how did we go from Russia Russia Russia election outcome to wikileaks?

    how about this, "Stood at a podium in full of our press corps and begged the Russians to hack our election" in reality, “I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” One is talking about hacking and the other is talking about finding. One is talking about elections the other is talking about deleted emails, you see the conversation degradation?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    WaPo quotes anonymous sources, then NYT quotes WaPo and anonymous sources, then NBC quotes WaPo and the NYT.


    image

    Not sure what your point is. Are you suggesting that the Washington Post made up the info just because they site anonymous sources? Since when were anonymous sources irrelevant?
    I doubt WaPo made up the story, they probably did get anonymous source information from someone(s).
    Anonymous sources aren't irrelevant.
    Clear
    Okay, so you assume the anonymous source was lying because they're anonymous? Or at least think any info coming from an anonymous source shouldn't be seriously considered? I mean, you must have posted that bad meme for a reason. Perhaps you think protecting sources is a bad idea? Just trying to get a grasp of how you think when you post your memes.
    No to all the above...
    Already stated why I post stupid memes, shits, giggs and triggs. If you wish that I not post stupid memes, just ask and I'll stop.
    I never posted memes, only started posting them when "fake news and memes elected Trump".
    Okay... so you admit you're just trolling. That is a relief!
    Yes, please stop posting stupid memes. They degrade the conversation. Thanks! :)
    Would this be classified as conversation degradation?
    here I thought we were talking about a WaPo article that was talking about Russia Russia Russia undermining democracy by having a hand in the elections, and I get a politifact reference to wikileaks. ignoring that wikileaks has 100% track record and has stated that the leak wasnt a hack from Russia Russia Russia, how did we go from Russia Russia Russia election outcome to wikileaks?

    how about this, "Stood at a podium in full of our press corps and begged the Russians to hack our election" in reality, “I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” One is talking about hacking and the other is talking about finding. One is talking about elections the other is talking about deleted emails, you see the conversation degradation?
    One is talking about a candidate in the election asking a foreign power to hack his opponent in the election. How else do you suppose Russia was going to find anything? If you feel that is degrading our conversation I don't know what to tell you.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    edited December 2016
    oops
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    CM189191 said:

    I'd say this is a pretty accurate assessment of the fake news spectrum:
    image
    ...thoughts?

    I do not consider the majority of media in the grey circle to meet high standards ... they also perpetuate the corporate agenda ...