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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I47Y6VHc3Ms

    Will Donald lay a wreath? Or tweet?
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    the article does basically generalize Trump supporters as being of a certain type of person. I think that was the idea. If you supported Trump and you are not one of those people, then you are likely offended by this. Perhaps you need to start defending your man?
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426

    ^^^
    How are we going to feel the negative impacts the most?
    It is time for you to stop giving fake psychological advice and give your own opine.

    hahah....fake psychological advice. My opinion basically is that there has to be something missing in your brain/soul to be a Trump supporter. Seriously, the man was put into office by one of our greatest enemies, Russia. Need I go on? Okay, I will. He's also a pussy grabber, a racist and only semi-literate. Need I go on? His 'tweets/policies' are anti-capitalistic, his tan/hair are gaudy and he might even be a consumer of urine (even if he isn't, its funny as shit, remember the Birther Movement?). so yeah, fuck that guy.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    There is a short list of foreign leaders Trump speaks highly of... Putin, Netnyahoo did I miss anyone?


    Israeli settlers and their American evangelical supporters are among the invitees to Donald Trump’s presidential inauguration on January 20.

    Yehuda Glick, a Brooklyn-born rabbi and member of the Israeli parliament’s ruling Likud party confirmed that he will be attending the inauguration with fellow Likud lawmaker Sharren Haskel. They will be joined by Atlanta-born Israeli rabbi Jeremy Gimpel, who spoke about his intention to attend on a radio show on the Land of Israel Network. Gimpel is bringing his teenage son, a Trump fan, as a present for his bar mitzvah trip.

    http://forward.com/news/israel/360038/israeli-settler-leaders-will-flock-to-trump-inauguration/
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    Elitist fucking garbage... great example of why Trump won
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    Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,347



    You love this?

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.
    Seems pretty Hitlerish.

    Yes. I guess because I could relate in a lot of things (being a booklover, birdwatcher, homecooker, grammar nazi...). And maybe what the author describes is another one of the stages of grief that people, me included, are going through with this situation. I also loved the little sparkle of hope that he gave in the end.
    I don't understand your last sentence. Are you using the H-word for the shock effect? To offend me (being German)? I don't wish any bad on anyone. From what I am seeing, this might fit better for the Drumpf voters and defenders. I don't believe in God, I am not spiritual, but I do like it when I see a glimpse of karma in action. Other than that, I hope we will all get out of this alive and mentally and physically healthy.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    How insecure of a man is he that even after winning the election to POTUS he can't ignore a sketch comedy show that mocks him.

    It makes me think when he's home at night he wears prosthetic hand gloves like Charlie's uncle in Always Sunny.

    I guess that's what happens when a below average kid is surrounded by "yes men" his entire life.
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    The comedy is kind of over for me. The situation has moved from being hilarious to being pathetic.

    I'm sure there will be plenty more laughs at the orange one's future follies, but the real issue is the fact that it would at least appear that half of the US is either flat out stupid or morally bankrupt. How else do you choose to vote for such a slob (no need to state his negative qualities here... they've been well documented to this point)?

    If you're of the stupid variety and gal darn it... ya just wanted to make America great again... I can understand. If you're not stupid... then wtf man? Hilary was far from fantastic, but let's be honest around here: Trump was obviously way worse and he's proved so each and every day.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    The comedy is kind of over for me. The situation has moved from being hilarious to being pathetic.

    I'm sure there will be plenty more laughs at the orange one's future follies, but the real issue is the fact that it would at least appear that half of the US is either flat out stupid or morally bankrupt. How else do you choose to vote for such a slob (no need to state his negative qualities here... they've been well documented to this point)?

    If you're of the stupid variety and gal darn it... ya just wanted to make America great again... I can understand. If you're not stupid... then wtf man? Hilary was far from fantastic, but let's be honest around here: Trump was obviously way worse and he's proved so each and every day.

    Most people are stupid.
    Canadians aren't smarter as individuals, y'all just have a culture that doesn't encourage people to be actively dumber than they truly are.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    We do.

    Man, oh man. We do.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    tbergs said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    We all lost when an egotistical and dishonest pile of garbage was rewarded for his behavior by becoming president. What kind of fucking example is that? If you're an asshole with no character you get to be president. Wow. I'm tired of hearing dems lost. This isn't about any political party, it's about the integrity of the person elected to highest office and the continued pass he is getting for having zero respect for anything besides himself. Imagine Obama had done 1% of this shit? Old white arrogant man-baby needs to put in his pacifier and shut-up. This is like watching an episode of Intervention only no one is doing anything who can.
    You are tired of hearing the Dems lost butyou're OK with the label "we liberal elitists" and and carrying on how we need to be divisive. Way to go Dems. Way to look at the Trump problem yet you can keep us divided by claiming how right you are, how fine you are, and how everybody else is wrong.

    It is the very basis of what the problem is.
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    rgambs said:

    The comedy is kind of over for me. The situation has moved from being hilarious to being pathetic.

    I'm sure there will be plenty more laughs at the orange one's future follies, but the real issue is the fact that it would at least appear that half of the US is either flat out stupid or morally bankrupt. How else do you choose to vote for such a slob (no need to state his negative qualities here... they've been well documented to this point)?

    If you're of the stupid variety and gal darn it... ya just wanted to make America great again... I can understand. If you're not stupid... then wtf man? Hilary was far from fantastic, but let's be honest around here: Trump was obviously way worse and he's proved so each and every day.

    Most people are stupid.
    Canadians aren't smarter as individuals, y'all just have a culture that doesn't encourage people to be actively dumber than they truly are.
    So you're saying we need to start working harder at being stupid?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    If you look beyond the character creation, which is his writing style done to make a point, he has some good things to say. And it is a fact that trump voters tend to be less educated and are going to feel the negative impacts from his policies the most.
    Tearing half of the country down with the labels while raising yourselves up and hurting yourselves patting your backs wont solve any problems.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,337

    The comedy is kind of over for me. The situation has moved from being hilarious to being pathetic.

    I'm sure there will be plenty more laughs at the orange one's future follies, but the real issue is the fact that it would at least appear that half of the US is either flat out stupid or morally bankrupt. How else do you choose to vote for such a slob (no need to state his negative qualities here... they've been well documented to this point)?

    If you're of the stupid variety and gal darn it... ya just wanted to make America great again... I can understand. If you're not stupid... then wtf man? Hilary was far from fantastic, but let's be honest around here: Trump was obviously way worse and he's proved so each and every day.

    estimated US population 320 million. 62 Million voters voted for Trump. not half by a long shot.
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    Free said:

    tbergs said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    We all lost when an egotistical and dishonest pile of garbage was rewarded for his behavior by becoming president. What kind of fucking example is that? If you're an asshole with no character you get to be president. Wow. I'm tired of hearing dems lost. This isn't about any political party, it's about the integrity of the person elected to highest office and the continued pass he is getting for having zero respect for anything besides himself. Imagine Obama had done 1% of this shit? Old white arrogant man-baby needs to put in his pacifier and shut-up. This is like watching an episode of Intervention only no one is doing anything who can.
    You are tired of hearing the Dems lost butyou're OK with the label "we liberal elitists" and and carrying on how we need to be divisive. Way to go Dems. Way to look at the Trump problem yet you can keep us divided by claiming how right you are, how fine you are, and how everybody else is wrong.

    It is the very basis of what the problem is.
    I think RG and I have figured it out: your country isn't divided politically... its divided by intellect. You got Cletuses and you got Poindexters.

    If you could divise a system where the Cletuses maybe didn't get as many opportunities to wield their stupidity and the Poindexters could... say maybe sniff glue three times a week... your country might start to rock (be great again!).

    Just a thought. I dunno. Trying to be helpful is all.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    mickeyrat said:

    The comedy is kind of over for me. The situation has moved from being hilarious to being pathetic.

    I'm sure there will be plenty more laughs at the orange one's future follies, but the real issue is the fact that it would at least appear that half of the US is either flat out stupid or morally bankrupt. How else do you choose to vote for such a slob (no need to state his negative qualities here... they've been well documented to this point)?

    If you're of the stupid variety and gal darn it... ya just wanted to make America great again... I can understand. If you're not stupid... then wtf man? Hilary was far from fantastic, but let's be honest around here: Trump was obviously way worse and he's proved so each and every day.

    estimated US population 320 million. 62 Million voters voted for Trump. not half by a long shot.
    You're suggesting most of the apathy rests with the intelligent and moral people?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017
    vaggar99 said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    the article does basically generalize Trump supporters as being of a certain type of person. I think that was the idea. If you supported Trump and you are not one of those people, then you are likely offended by this. Perhaps you need to start defending your man?
    Here we go again. I am not a part of your broken 2-party system. Didn't vote Trump nor Clinton but label me however you see fit. But I did vote.

    This is exactly the problem w/ America. You will never solve your problem w/ Trump by pointing fingers elsewhere.
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    the article does basically generalize Trump supporters as being of a certain type of person. I think that was the idea. If you supported Trump and you are not one of those people, then you are likely offended by this. Perhaps you need to start defending your man?
    Here we go again. I am not a part of your broken 2-party system. Didn't vote Trump nor Clinton but label me however you see fit.

    This is exactly the problem w/ America.
    well, there you go. you are off the hook. feel free to continue to trash the system.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,087
    Free said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    If you look beyond the character creation, which is his writing style done to make a point, he has some good things to say. And it is a fact that trump voters tend to be less educated and are going to feel the negative impacts from his policies the most.
    Tearing half of the country down with the labels while raising yourselves up and hurting yourselves patting your backs wont solve any problems.
    kinda like constantly tearing half the country down by insulting all democrats while raising yourself up by proclaiming yourself the all-knowing bernie bro intellectual?
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    tbergs said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    We all lost when an egotistical and dishonest pile of garbage was rewarded for his behavior by becoming president. What kind of fucking example is that? If you're an asshole with no character you get to be president. Wow. I'm tired of hearing dems lost. This isn't about any political party, it's about the integrity of the person elected to highest office and the continued pass he is getting for having zero respect for anything besides himself. Imagine Obama had done 1% of this shit? Old white arrogant man-baby needs to put in his pacifier and shut-up. This is like watching an episode of Intervention only no one is doing anything who can.
    You are tired of hearing the Dems lost butyou're OK with the label "we liberal elitists" and and carrying on how we need to be divisive. Way to go Dems. Way to look at the Trump problem yet you can keep us divided by claiming how right you are, how fine you are, and how everybody else is wrong.

    It is the very basis of what the problem is.
    I think RG and I have figured it out: your country isn't divided politically... its divided by intellect. You got Cletuses and you got Poindexters.

    If you could divise a system where the Cletuses maybe didn't get as many opportunities to wield their stupidity and the Poindexters could... say maybe sniff glue three times a week... your country might start to rock (be great again!).

    Just a thought. I dunno. Trying to be helpful is all.
    Thanks for the input on recognizing the real problem. It's a societal problem, we see it in TV and advertising, this dumbing down of America. When govt also politicizes education and continues to take funding away from it, they're not exactly making us smarter.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    vaggar99 said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    the article does basically generalize Trump supporters as being of a certain type of person. I think that was the idea. If you supported Trump and you are not one of those people, then you are likely offended by this. Perhaps you need to start defending your man?
    Here we go again. I am not a part of your broken 2-party system. Didn't vote Trump nor Clinton but label me however you see fit.

    This is exactly the problem w/ America.
    well, there you go. you are off the hook. feel free to continue to trash the system.
    Is that all you're going to do? Defend the broken system rather than look at it objectively and see what the real problem here is? One side is not better than the other. One side is not better than the other. One side is not better than the other.
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    Free said:

    Free said:

    tbergs said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    We all lost when an egotistical and dishonest pile of garbage was rewarded for his behavior by becoming president. What kind of fucking example is that? If you're an asshole with no character you get to be president. Wow. I'm tired of hearing dems lost. This isn't about any political party, it's about the integrity of the person elected to highest office and the continued pass he is getting for having zero respect for anything besides himself. Imagine Obama had done 1% of this shit? Old white arrogant man-baby needs to put in his pacifier and shut-up. This is like watching an episode of Intervention only no one is doing anything who can.
    You are tired of hearing the Dems lost butyou're OK with the label "we liberal elitists" and and carrying on how we need to be divisive. Way to go Dems. Way to look at the Trump problem yet you can keep us divided by claiming how right you are, how fine you are, and how everybody else is wrong.

    It is the very basis of what the problem is.
    I think RG and I have figured it out: your country isn't divided politically... its divided by intellect. You got Cletuses and you got Poindexters.

    If you could divise a system where the Cletuses maybe didn't get as many opportunities to wield their stupidity and the Poindexters could... say maybe sniff glue three times a week... your country might start to rock (be great again!).

    Just a thought. I dunno. Trying to be helpful is all.
    Thanks for the input on recognizing the real problem. It's a societal problem, we see it in TV and advertising, this dumbing down of America. When govt also politicizes education and continues to take funding away from it, they're not exactly making us smarter.
    As much as I'm trying to make a point, I'm just goofing around. Don't take me too seriously in this thread.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    If you look beyond the character creation, which is his writing style done to make a point, he has some good things to say. And it is a fact that trump voters tend to be less educated and are going to feel the negative impacts from his policies the most.
    Tearing half of the country down with the labels while raising yourselves up and hurting yourselves patting your backs wont solve any problems.
    kinda like constantly tearing half the country down by insulting all democrats while raising yourself up by proclaiming yourself the all-knowing bernie bro intellectual?
    I find it interesting that people here would rather point fingers and trash me for recognizing the overall problem. I never said I was better than anyone else so you can stop right there.

    It is a known fact the problems will never get solved by pointing fingers. Recognizing the problems and going from there with solutions is the only way to do it. First we have to recognize that WE, JOINTLY, are the problem, and that is very difficult. Egos are precious.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,087
    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    If you look beyond the character creation, which is his writing style done to make a point, he has some good things to say. And it is a fact that trump voters tend to be less educated and are going to feel the negative impacts from his policies the most.
    Tearing half of the country down with the labels while raising yourselves up and hurting yourselves patting your backs wont solve any problems.
    kinda like constantly tearing half the country down by insulting all democrats while raising yourself up by proclaiming yourself the all-knowing bernie bro intellectual?
    I find it interesting that people here would rather point fingers and trash me for recognizing the overall problem. I never said I was better than anyone else so you can stop right there.

    It is a known fact the problems will never get solved by pointing fingers. Recognizing the problems and going from there with solutions is the only way to do it. First we have to recognize that WE, JOINTLY, are the problem, and that is very difficult. Egos are precious.
    that was my entire point. you blather on about pointing fingers when that's all you've been doing since Nov 9th.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
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    JC29856 said:

    I'll give you guys a hint, straight from the horses mouth!

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/09/16/opinion/forgiving-george-wallace.html

    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from a year ago about the preposterous thought of free education.

    Horses mouth!

    “I think it’s the wrong message to send to any group. There’s not anything free in America. We all have to pay for something. Education is not free. Health care is not free. Food is not free. Water is not free. I think it’s very misleading to say to the American people, we’re going to give you something free.”



    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from four years ago to the Cal Board of School Administrators.

    “Today we must do what we can to see that all of our children…it doesn’t matter whether they’re Black or White, Latino or Asian American, or Native American, get the best possible education. Education is a right, it is a civil right. So stand up for it, fight for it, speak up for it, speak out for it.”
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited January 2017
    It's

    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    If you look beyond the character creation, which is his writing style done to make a point, he has some good things to say. And it is a fact that trump voters tend to be less educated and are going to feel the negative impacts from his policies the most.
    Tearing half of the country down with the labels while raising yourselves up and hurting yourselves patting your backs wont solve any problems.
    kinda like constantly tearing half the country down by insulting all democrats while raising yourself up by proclaiming yourself the all-knowing bernie bro intellectual?
    I find it interesting that people here would rather point fingers and trash me for recognizing the overall problem. I never said I was better than anyone else so you can stop right there.

    It is a known fact the problems will never get solved by pointing fingers. Recognizing the problems and going from there with solutions is the only way to do it. First we have to recognize that WE, JOINTLY, are the problem, and that is very difficult. Egos are precious.
    that was my entire point. you blather on about pointing fingers when that's all you've been doing since Nov 9th.
    Yep, it must be my fault for calling out everybody pointing fingers at everybody else. Because that's precisely what's been going on but it's all my fault. Gotcha.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,087
    edited January 2017
    Free said:

    It's

    Free said:

    Free said:

    Free said:

    vaggar99 said:

    masterful words:

    Garrison Keiller, Washington Post

    Trump Voters Will Not Like What Happens Next

    So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out, and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting “Lock her up” — we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted “Stronger Together.” It just doesn’t chant.

    The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by “us,” I mean librarians, children’s authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, bird-watchers, people who make their own pasta, opera-goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

    Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

    To all the patronizing B.S. we’ve read about Trump expressing the white working-class’s displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, “Feh!” — go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress’s kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren’t plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

    We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids, and we Democrats can go for a long , brisk walk and smell the roses.

    I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

    Don’t be cruel. Elvis said it, and it’s true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days — boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive — and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty. Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin. But the damage he will do to our country — who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.

    Back to real life. I went up to my home town the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going bird-watching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary. Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

    That was nothing but a severely judgmental, decisive and superior piece of garbage. Dems lost. But they're right, because they say so.
    If you look beyond the character creation, which is his writing style done to make a point, he has some good things to say. And it is a fact that trump voters tend to be less educated and are going to feel the negative impacts from his policies the most.
    Tearing half of the country down with the labels while raising yourselves up and hurting yourselves patting your backs wont solve any problems.
    kinda like constantly tearing half the country down by insulting all democrats while raising yourself up by proclaiming yourself the all-knowing bernie bro intellectual?
    I find it interesting that people here would rather point fingers and trash me for recognizing the overall problem. I never said I was better than anyone else so you can stop right there.

    It is a known fact the problems will never get solved by pointing fingers. Recognizing the problems and going from there with solutions is the only way to do it. First we have to recognize that WE, JOINTLY, are the problem, and that is very difficult. Egos are precious.
    that was my entire point. you blather on about pointing fingers when that's all you've been doing since Nov 9th.
    Yep, it must be my fault for calling out everybody pointing fingers at everybody else. Because that's precisely what's been going on but it's all my fault. Gotcha.
    no, you've been pointing fingers at all the hillary/dem supporters the entire time about needing to wake up and being the reason trump got elected, yadda yadda yadda. I haven't seen anyone else point any fingers but you.
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    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I'll give you guys a hint, straight from the horses mouth!

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/09/16/opinion/forgiving-george-wallace.html

    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from a year ago about the preposterous thought of free education.

    Horses mouth!

    “I think it’s the wrong message to send to any group. There’s not anything free in America. We all have to pay for something. Education is not free. Health care is not free. Food is not free. Water is not free. I think it’s very misleading to say to the American people, we’re going to give you something free.”



    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from four years ago to the Cal Board of School Administrators.

    “Today we must do what we can to see that all of our children…it doesn’t matter whether they’re Black or White, Latino or Asian American, or Native American, get the best possible education. Education is a right, it is a civil right. So stand up for it, fight for it, speak up for it, speak out for it.”
    "say whatever is necessary to get elected".
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Free said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    I'll give you guys a hint, straight from the horses mouth!

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/09/16/opinion/forgiving-george-wallace.html

    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from a year ago about the preposterous thought of free education.

    Horses mouth!

    “I think it’s the wrong message to send to any group. There’s not anything free in America. We all have to pay for something. Education is not free. Health care is not free. Food is not free. Water is not free. I think it’s very misleading to say to the American people, we’re going to give you something free.”



    This is my favorite quote from democratic super delegate and democratic congressional leader and Trump Resistor from four years ago to the Cal Board of School Administrators.

    “Today we must do what we can to see that all of our children…it doesn’t matter whether they’re Black or White, Latino or Asian American, or Native American, get the best possible education. Education is a right, it is a civil right. So stand up for it, fight for it, speak up for it, speak out for it.”
    "say whatever is necessary to get elected".
    Reporter:
    Congressman Lewis, congressmen Lewis..... If rights aren't free, as you say.... please tell me how much money you've spent in your lifetime for your rights? $100? $1,000?

    Drew Rosenhaus: (steps in front of Congressman Lewis) NEXT QUESTION!
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