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  • Hilarious for his gullibility. Triple H reveals that Trump contacted Vince McMahon to see if the limo explosion on Monday Night Raw was real or staged.

    Good god this guy is thick.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,094
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    The problem is that both sides are being total fucking hypocrites in regards to how to treat the executive office.
    Republicans feel Trump deserves support from both parties and a cooperative Congress when, in fact, they've denied President Obama any sort of respect since before he was inaugurated.
    Democrats, after 8 years of saying the Republucans refuse to work with Obama, are now the ones talking impeachment and making sure Trump doesn't succeed.
    It's ridiculous.

    Obama's a centrist Democrat. Your point would be valid if trump was a centrist Republican, but he's not.
    There is nothing about Obama from a policy perspective that is centrist. The whole concept of his centrism is actually an illusion being perpetuated to provide moral standing for his out of the mainstream positions. Obama is far left and the Democratic party followed him over that cliff. The electoral results at all levels of government over the last 8 years is the evidence and it will only get worse once the Dems are forced to wear yesterday's UN abstention in 2018.

    This is the new center

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/12/23/daily-202-governors-lead-a-republican-renaissance-in-new-england/585c83ece9b69b36fcfeaf59/?utm_term=.2e03cbf96ccd&wpisrc=nl_daily202&wpmm=1

    Election results isn't evidence against the fact that Obama is a centrist. Actual policy shows he's a centrist. It looks like you're suggesting the country is moving to the right based on voting. This is also a poor way to gauge society. Looking at surveys that speak directly with people's attitudes about issues shows we're trending left and has more validity than trying to look at voting to confirm your already made conclusion.
    The only survey that matters is the one that occurs on election day. Take a look at the red vs blue county map again and ask yourself again if Obama really governed to the center. There isn't a policy position you can name where Obama did not take the path on the left. Was Obamacare a centrist policy? The stimulus package? Immigration? Supreme Court nominees? Environmental policy? Social issues? The abstension at the UN? The list really is endless. You are living in a dream world if you think any of his "actions" on these issues are center and until the democrats embrace that reality then the election day surveys will continue to produce the same results.
    Elections aren't a good representation of society as a whole since voter turnout is so low. How would you have felt about a Bernie Sanders election day survey after he beat trump? All of your conclusions about the US being more conservative are false.
    The sample sizes on election day are larger then any poll and the Bernie Sanders scenerio you allude to only happened in your own mind.
    The sample size doesn't mean it represents the country as a whole. The people who vote aren't a valid representation of the country. Look up how scientific surveys are done with a sample size of 600-1000 people. And yes, the Sanders scenario happened in my mind obviously, but he would've won if nominated.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    The problem is that both sides are being total fucking hypocrites in regards to how to treat the executive office.
    Republicans feel Trump deserves support from both parties and a cooperative Congress when, in fact, they've denied President Obama any sort of respect since before he was inaugurated.
    Democrats, after 8 years of saying the Republucans refuse to work with Obama, are now the ones talking impeachment and making sure Trump doesn't succeed.
    It's ridiculous.

    Obama's a centrist Democrat. Your point would be valid if trump was a centrist Republican, but he's not.
    There is nothing about Obama from a policy perspective that is centrist. The whole concept of his centrism is actually an illusion being perpetuated to provide moral standing for his out of the mainstream positions. Obama is far left and the Democratic party followed him over that cliff. The electoral results at all levels of government over the last 8 years is the evidence and it will only get worse once the Dems are forced to wear yesterday's UN abstention in 2018.

    This is the new center

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/12/23/daily-202-governors-lead-a-republican-renaissance-in-new-england/585c83ece9b69b36fcfeaf59/?utm_term=.2e03cbf96ccd&wpisrc=nl_daily202&wpmm=1

    Election results isn't evidence against the fact that Obama is a centrist. Actual policy shows he's a centrist. It looks like you're suggesting the country is moving to the right based on voting. This is also a poor way to gauge society. Looking at surveys that speak directly with people's attitudes about issues shows we're trending left and has more validity than trying to look at voting to confirm your already made conclusion.
    The only survey that matters is the one that occurs on election day. Take a look at the red vs blue county map again and ask yourself again if Obama really governed to the center. There isn't a policy position you can name where Obama did not take the path on the left. Was Obamacare a centrist policy? The stimulus package? Immigration? Supreme Court nominees? Environmental policy? Social issues? The abstension at the UN? The list really is endless. You are living in a dream world if you think any of his "actions" on these issues are center and until the democrats embrace that reality then the election day surveys will continue to produce the same results.
    Elections aren't a good representation of society as a whole since voter turnout is so low. How would you have felt about a Bernie Sanders election day survey after he beat trump? All of your conclusions about the US being more conservative are false.
    The sample sizes on election day are larger then any poll and the Bernie Sanders scenerio you allude to only happened in your own mind.
    The sample size doesn't mean it represents the country as a whole. The people who vote aren't a valid representation of the country. Look up how scientific surveys are done with a sample size of 600-1000 people. And yes, the Sanders scenario happened in my mind obviously, but he would've won if nominated.
    Right...so the people who vote aren't a valid representation of the country as a whole but a scientific survey of 600-1000 people is? Is that really your argument? Well unfortunately for you policy is made based on votes at the local/state level and based on the electoral college federally...your scientific surveys are academic and meaningless...except for the ones maybe that suggest Americans would never elect a socialist.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,094
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    The problem is that both sides are being total fucking hypocrites in regards to how to treat the executive office.
    Republicans feel Trump deserves support from both parties and a cooperative Congress when, in fact, they've denied President Obama any sort of respect since before he was inaugurated.
    Democrats, after 8 years of saying the Republucans refuse to work with Obama, are now the ones talking impeachment and making sure Trump doesn't succeed.
    It's ridiculous.

    Obama's a centrist Democrat. Your point would be valid if trump was a centrist Republican, but he's not.
    There is nothing about Obama from a policy perspective that is centrist. The whole concept of his centrism is actually an illusion being perpetuated to provide moral standing for his out of the mainstream positions. Obama is far left and the Democratic party followed him over that cliff. The electoral results at all levels of government over the last 8 years is the evidence and it will only get worse once the Dems are forced to wear yesterday's UN abstention in 2018.

    This is the new center

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/12/23/daily-202-governors-lead-a-republican-renaissance-in-new-england/585c83ece9b69b36fcfeaf59/?utm_term=.2e03cbf96ccd&wpisrc=nl_daily202&wpmm=1

    Election results isn't evidence against the fact that Obama is a centrist. Actual policy shows he's a centrist. It looks like you're suggesting the country is moving to the right based on voting. This is also a poor way to gauge society. Looking at surveys that speak directly with people's attitudes about issues shows we're trending left and has more validity than trying to look at voting to confirm your already made conclusion.
    The only survey that matters is the one that occurs on election day. Take a look at the red vs blue county map again and ask yourself again if Obama really governed to the center. There isn't a policy position you can name where Obama did not take the path on the left. Was Obamacare a centrist policy? The stimulus package? Immigration? Supreme Court nominees? Environmental policy? Social issues? The abstension at the UN? The list really is endless. You are living in a dream world if you think any of his "actions" on these issues are center and until the democrats embrace that reality then the election day surveys will continue to produce the same results.
    Elections aren't a good representation of society as a whole since voter turnout is so low. How would you have felt about a Bernie Sanders election day survey after he beat trump? All of your conclusions about the US being more conservative are false.
    The sample sizes on election day are larger then any poll and the Bernie Sanders scenerio you allude to only happened in your own mind.
    The sample size doesn't mean it represents the country as a whole. The people who vote aren't a valid representation of the country. Look up how scientific surveys are done with a sample size of 600-1000 people. And yes, the Sanders scenario happened in my mind obviously, but he would've won if nominated.
    Right...so the people who vote aren't a valid representation of the country as a whole but a scientific survey of 600-1000 people is? Is that really your argument? Well unfortunately for you policy is made based on votes at the local/state level and based on the electoral college federally...your scientific surveys are academic and meaningless...except for the ones maybe that suggest Americans would never elect a socialist.
    The answer to your first question is yes. And policy isn't necessarily made based on votes, but who gets elected. And notice that a large number of trump voters also disagree with a lot of his policies, so the voters aren't a mirror like you're suggesting. And what surveys suggested Sanders would've lost to trump? Because all the ones I saw had him winning by about 12 points nationally.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Now he's taking credit for Christmas?
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    I am voting Trump for Santa Claus 2024.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    edited December 2016
    Whoops. That posted twice.
  • *received...guy too smart for daily briefings.
  • ^^^
    Good catch.
    I really do think he is doing it to have fun w/ the media.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    ^^^
    Good catch.
    I really do think he is doing it to have fun w/ the media.
    Everyone knows I before e except after c

    Hahaha it takes a troll to spot a troll??
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    And..... "100% of money goes to wonderful charities..... that include my campaign, and the decorating budget for my properties"
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,094
    And he's saying all the staff connected to the foundation are volunteers and don't get paid? No admin costs?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    And he's saying all the staff connected to the foundation are volunteers and don't get paid? No admin costs?

    Seems hard to b believe but that's what he is saying...should be easily refuted if not true.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    vaggar99 said:

    I am voting Trump for Santa Claus 2024.

    And I thought Santa was a psycho in Silent Night Deadly Night. Not as much as as his brother.

    GARBAGE DAY!
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    JC29856 said:

    And he's saying all the staff connected to the foundation are volunteers and don't get paid? No admin costs?

    Seems hard to b believe but that's what he is saying...should be easily refuted if not true.
    Apparently the foundation itself does not have any paid employees. Trump organization paid employees perform work for the foundation.

    There are documented instances of the Foundation making rather significant non-charitable disbursements, such as paying Trump's legal fees. it has made donations to an AG election campaign. There are also numerous instances of Trump claiming the foundation has made donations to charities that say they never received any money. Furthermore, Trump himself has not made a donation of his own money to the foundation since 2008.

    But who cares about the accuracy of the tweets of President Elect?
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  • It's not even worth bothering to point out how slippery Trump is to his faithful- they're incapable of seeing what they need to see. Some are just downright stupid, but most are so enamoured with the idea of making America great again that he's been pardoned for all past discriminations and a licence for future ones.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • It's not even worth bothering to point out how slippery Trump is to his faithful- they're incapable of seeing what they need to see. Some are just downright stupid, but most are so enamoured with the idea of making America great again that he's been pardoned for all past discriminations and a licence for future ones.

    It's not even worth bothering to point out how slippery Obama has been to his faithful- they're incapable of seeing what they need to see. Some are just downright stupid, but most are so enamoured with the idea of "change" that he's been pardoned for all past discriminations and a licence for future ones while he dribbles and babbles in foreign tong dreaming of a third term.

    kinda fits with anybody.


  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845

    It's not even worth bothering to point out how slippery Trump is to his faithful- they're incapable of seeing what they need to see. Some are just downright stupid, but most are so enamoured with the idea of making America great again that he's been pardoned for all past discriminations and a licence for future ones.

    It's not even worth bothering to point out how slippery Obama has been to his faithful- they're incapable of seeing what they need to see. Some are just downright stupid, but most are so enamoured with the idea of "change" that he's been pardoned for all past discriminations and a licence for future ones while he dribbles and babbles in foreign tong dreaming of a third term.

    kinda fits with anybody.


    Except that Thirty's kinda made sense, while yours dribbles and drabbles in a "tong" that is all your own.
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  • It's not even worth bothering to point out how slippery Trump is to his faithful- they're incapable of seeing what they need to see. Some are just downright stupid, but most are so enamoured with the idea of making America great again that he's been pardoned for all past discriminations and a licence for future ones.

    It's not even worth bothering to point out how slippery Obama has been to his faithful- they're incapable of seeing what they need to see. Some are just downright stupid, but most are so enamoured with the idea of "change" that he's been pardoned for all past discriminations and a licence for future ones while he dribbles and babbles in foreign tong dreaming of a third term.

    kinda fits with anybody.


    Except that Thirty's kinda made sense, while yours dribbles and drabbles in a "tong" that is all your own.
    Lol
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  • so the trump supporters want everyone to give him a chance, and wait until he's president before we make any judgments. yet, trump himself took credit for the 10% market increase and christmas overspending.

    the narcissism on this guy knows no bounds.
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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623

    It's not even worth bothering to point out how slippery Trump is to his faithful- they're incapable of seeing what they need to see. Some are just downright stupid, but most are so enamoured with the idea of making America great again that he's been pardoned for all past discriminations and a licence for future ones.

    They only see it if you color his skin, put a vagina on him and put a D next to his name on the ballot.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2016
    IH80, are you actually angered that President Trump is your next ruler or are you just trolling by calling his supporters names and such. Do you really hate his supporters and the man that much? Your above post makes zeros sense when describing his supporters. What does it mean? You really do sound angry, relax he is one man.

    Anyway folks here is the latest tweet. I believe it to be true.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2016
    President Trump in unique you have to give him that.
    Here was his Christmas card to the American people. Fist bump.
    Would you prefer this or one w/ his family?
    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    ^^^it's sad, really. a 70 year old man who still thinks that running a country is all about winning.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    is it too much to ask of Republican voters to not pick a douchebag for pres? is it that you think anyone can do the job and why not just pick someone who makes you feel smart because he is so dumb?
  • President Trump in unique you have to give him that.
    Here was his Christmas card to the American people. Fist bump.
    Would you prefer this or one w/ his family?
    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

    I just looked at his twitter page for the first time.

    Holy f**k his supporters are stupider than I thought. Every hillbilly, god fearing, gun loving, hyuk hyuk 'git er dun' stereotype that existed for folks in the US has been solidified.

    Hahahahahahaha

    * It's as funny as hell... but I do honestly feel badly for intelligent people that are shackled to the dreams of the morons who's vote counts just as much as theirs.

    ** Again... the problem with a democracy: a dummy shouldn't have a vote. I mean... why not give children a vote? There's elementary kids way more intelligent than many of the morons wiping the pork chop fat off their checks prior to scrawling their 'X' with their crayon. Instead of age being the requirement for voting... why not IQ?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2016

    President Trump in unique you have to give him that.
    Here was his Christmas card to the American people. Fist bump.
    Would you prefer this or one w/ his family?
    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

    I just looked at his twitter page for the first time.

    Holy f**k his supporters are stupider than I thought. Every hillbilly, god fearing, gun loving, hyuk hyuk 'git er dun' stereotype that existed for folks in the US has been solidified.

    Hahahahahahaha

    * It's as funny as hell... but I do honestly feel badly for intelligent people that are shackled to the dreams of the morons who's vote counts just as much as theirs.

    ** Again... the problem with a democracy: a dummy shouldn't have a vote. I mean... why not give children a vote? There's elementary kids way more intelligent than many of the morons wiping the pork chop fat off their checks prior to scrawling their 'X' with their crayon. Instead of age being the requirement for voting... why not IQ?
    Lol...IQ should be criteria for many things, top 2 procreation and internet access!
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • JC29856 said:

    President Trump in unique you have to give him that.
    Here was his Christmas card to the American people. Fist bump.
    Would you prefer this or one w/ his family?
    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

    I just looked at his twitter page for the first time.

    Holy f**k his supporters are stupider than I thought. Every hillbilly, god fearing, gun loving, hyuk hyuk 'git er dun' stereotype that existed for folks in the US has been solidified.

    Hahahahahahaha

    * It's as funny as hell... but I do honestly feel badly for intelligent people that are shackled to the dreams of the morons who's vote counts just as much as theirs.

    ** Again... the problem with a democracy: a dummy shouldn't have a vote. I mean... why not give children a vote? There's elementary kids way more intelligent than many of the morons wiping the pork chop fat off their checks prior to scrawling their 'X' with their crayon. Instead of age being the requirement for voting... why not IQ?
    Lol...IQ should be criteria for many things, top 2 procreation and internet access!
    True that.

    Although we could have levels on the internet. As a person's IQ is elevated... the more content they can access. We want morons to be able to play and stuff- say on the Blues Clues website. That might be nice for them.

    Okay. Back to the Heat game. We've solved some problems.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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