President Elect Trump

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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    "Grow up"

    Hi, Pot. I'm Kettle. Have we met?
  • EM194007EM194007 Posts: 2,827

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
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  • ^^^
    Again w/ the same giff?
  • EM194007EM194007 Posts: 2,827

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
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    What facts? It seems that your just like the two in the video, your just trying to be a internet bully. Your BS isn't going to work on me, maybe some on here that you try to intimidate if they don't believe in want you do, but damn well not me.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623

    ^^^
    Again w/ the same giff?

    Speaking of fact repellent.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2016

    Suck it up. It is pathetic. Maybe because I'm that akward 33 year old that's always been conservative, but I'm not a huge trump supporter, but he is the president elect. Like it or not, the next four years will be our success, or our failure. Grow up, this is how the United States of America's government is set up. Seriously, don't protest now because your race horse lost. be an angry key board warrior, do yo thang as the cool kids say. But this is how our demacracy works, accept it. This isn't the first time a democrat lost the presidency to a republican. It might be in some of you melinials that still wave and wear a Che' flag or shirt. But it'll be alright.

    edit - I am not 33.
    Not sure why I am editing in a redundant President-elect Trump thread.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2016
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    That would be the media normalizing trump. Not good.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Is it, though? The subtitle is "President of the Divided States of America". And Trump joins Hitler and Stalin among other nefarious figures to have been so honored by Time. I don't think Time normalized Trump. Here's what they said about their selection:
    This is the 90th time we have named the person who had the greatest influence, for better or worse, on the events of the year. So which is it this year: Better or worse? The challenge for Donald Trump is how profoundly the country disagrees about the answer.

    It’s hard to measure the scale of his disruption. This real estate baron and casino owner turned reality-TV star and provocateur—never a day spent in public office, never a debt owed to any interest besides his own—now surveys the smoking ruin of a vast political edifice that once housed parties, pundits, donors, pollsters, all those who did not see him coming or take him seriously. Out of this reckoning, Trump is poised to preside, for better or worse.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    jeffbr said:

    Is it, though? The subtitle is "President of the Divided States of America". And Trump joins Hitler and Stalin among other nefarious figures to have been so honored by Time. I don't think Time normalized Trump. Here's what they said about their selection:

    This is the 90th time we have named the person who had the greatest influence, for better or worse, on the events of the year. So which is it this year: Better or worse? The challenge for Donald Trump is how profoundly the country disagrees about the answer.

    It’s hard to measure the scale of his disruption. This real estate baron and casino owner turned reality-TV star and provocateur—never a day spent in public office, never a debt owed to any interest besides his own—now surveys the smoking ruin of a vast political edifice that once housed parties, pundits, donors, pollsters, all those who did not see him coming or take him seriously. Out of this reckoning, Trump is poised to preside, for better or worse.

    "joins Hitler and Stalin"
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    jeffbr said:

    Is it, though? The subtitle is "President of the Divided States of America". And Trump joins Hitler and Stalin among other nefarious figures to have been so honored by Time. I don't think Time normalized Trump. Here's what they said about their selection:

    This is the 90th time we have named the person who had the greatest influence, for better or worse, on the events of the year. So which is it this year: Better or worse? The challenge for Donald Trump is how profoundly the country disagrees about the answer.

    It’s hard to measure the scale of his disruption. This real estate baron and casino owner turned reality-TV star and provocateur—never a day spent in public office, never a debt owed to any interest besides his own—now surveys the smoking ruin of a vast political edifice that once housed parties, pundits, donors, pollsters, all those who did not see him coming or take him seriously. Out of this reckoning, Trump is poised to preside, for better or worse.

    Those are two awfully fluffy paragraphs by Time. I wonder if they highlight his bigotry, narcissism, and authoritarian style later in the article.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    jeffbr said:

    Is it, though? The subtitle is "President of the Divided States of America". And Trump joins Hitler and Stalin among other nefarious figures to have been so honored by Time. I don't think Time normalized Trump. Here's what they said about their selection:

    This is the 90th time we have named the person who had the greatest influence, for better or worse, on the events of the year. So which is it this year: Better or worse? The challenge for Donald Trump is how profoundly the country disagrees about the answer.

    It’s hard to measure the scale of his disruption. This real estate baron and casino owner turned reality-TV star and provocateur—never a day spent in public office, never a debt owed to any interest besides his own—now surveys the smoking ruin of a vast political edifice that once housed parties, pundits, donors, pollsters, all those who did not see him coming or take him seriously. Out of this reckoning, Trump is poised to preside, for better or worse.
    Those are two awfully fluffy paragraphs by Time. I wonder if they highlight his bigotry, narcissism, and authoritarian style later in the article.

    Of course they're fluffy. They aren't going to excoriate him right out of the gate. They attempted balance. But they did take some jabs here and there. I thought they fairly accurately represented the polarized views about him. I don't find any of the following particularly flattering or normalizing:
    "... for those who see it as for the worse, the destruction extends to cherished norms of civility and discourse, a politics poisoned by vile streams of racism, sexism, nativism."
    "The revolution he stirred feels fully American, with its echoes of populists past, of Andrew Jackson and Huey Long and, at its most sinister, Joe McCarthy and Charles Coughlin. Trump’s assault on truth and logic, far from hurting him, made him stronger."
    " Yet his victory mirrors the ascent of nationalists across the world, from Britain to the Philippines, and taps forces far more powerful than one man’s message."
    "His supporters and his critics will discover together how much of what he said he actually believes. In the days after the election, everything was negotiable: the wall became a fence, “Crooked Hillary” is “good people,” and maybe climate change is worth thinking about. Far from draining the swamp, he fed plums to some of its biggest gators. Were his followers alarmed? The critics were hardly reassured: nearly half of Americans expect race relations to worsen, and many women fear that his ascent comes directly at their expense. Trump prefers to talk about the alienated workers who flocked to his rallies and believed a billionaire could be their tribune—“I love them and they love me”—and avers that his every action will be on their behalf. But can he devise a New Deal for workers in the age of automation, renegotiate trade deals and reopen factories while simultaneously elevating many of the same people who profit from the trends he denounced?"
    "For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year."
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    jeffbr said:

    Is it, though? The subtitle is "President of the Divided States of America". And Trump joins Hitler and Stalin among other nefarious figures to have been so honored by Time. I don't think Time normalized Trump. Here's what they said about their selection:

    This is the 90th time we have named the person who had the greatest influence, for better or worse, on the events of the year. So which is it this year: Better or worse? The challenge for Donald Trump is how profoundly the country disagrees about the answer.

    It’s hard to measure the scale of his disruption. This real estate baron and casino owner turned reality-TV star and provocateur—never a day spent in public office, never a debt owed to any interest besides his own—now surveys the smoking ruin of a vast political edifice that once housed parties, pundits, donors, pollsters, all those who did not see him coming or take him seriously. Out of this reckoning, Trump is poised to preside, for better or worse.
    Those are two awfully fluffy paragraphs by Time. I wonder if they highlight his bigotry, narcissism, and authoritarian style later in the article.

    Article is loaded with backhand comments and smear jobs.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623

    That would be the media normalizing trump. Not good.

    But enough about Breitfart, Alex Jones and FoKKK.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    edited December 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,616
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    so polite.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,310
    Third party voters are too easily scapegoated. An easy minority for Democrats to point the finger of blame at rather than look at the many mistakes they themselves made along the way. Jill Stein didn't cost Hillary Clinton this election. Neither did Gary Johnson.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    Depends on where those votes were cast. My 3rd party vote had absolutely zero impact on the outcome of this election. None. Hillary got the electoral votes from my state. So neither my vote, nor my state helped elect Trump.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,367
    JimmyV said:

    Third party voters are too easily scapegoated. An easy minority for Democrats to point the finger of blame at rather than look at the many mistakes they themselves made along the way. Jill Stein didn't cost Hillary Clinton this election. Neither did Gary Johnson.

    I agree with this. if you are in a position to lose an election because people wanted to vote 3rd party, you don't belong in the white house. period.
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    edited December 2016
    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    Depends on where those votes were cast. My 3rd party vote had absolutely zero impact on the outcome of this election. None. Hillary got the electoral votes from my state. So neither my vote, nor my state helped elect Trump.
    Yes, I understand how it works. The whole mindset surrounding the 3rd vote "campaign" at this particular time in history still applies though, IMO. I don't have any individuals in mind when I criticize that 3rd party "campaign". My disgust lies with the overall mindset, given the circumstances.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    Depends on where those votes were cast. My 3rd party vote had absolutely zero impact on the outcome of this election. None. Hillary got the electoral votes from my state. So neither my vote, nor my state helped elect Trump.
    Yes, I understand how it works. The whole mindset surrounding the 3rd vote "campaign" at this particular time in history still applies though, IMO. I don't have any individuals in mind when I criticize that 3rd party "campaign". My disgust lies with the overall mindset, given the circumstances.
    But 3rd party voters didn't lose the election for Hillary, nor did they win the election for Trump. Hillary's awful campaign failed to target voters in important states, and failed to bring out the numbers required. There were many, many registered voters who didn't vote. Perhaps they bear more responsibility than 3rd party voters, since they did absolutely nothing. But ultimately Trump won because Hillary can't run a campaign.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    Depends on where those votes were cast. My 3rd party vote had absolutely zero impact on the outcome of this election. None. Hillary got the electoral votes from my state. So neither my vote, nor my state helped elect Trump.
    Yes, I understand how it works. The whole mindset surrounding the 3rd vote "campaign" at this particular time in history still applies though, IMO. I don't have any individuals in mind when I criticize that 3rd party "campaign". My disgust lies with the overall mindset, given the circumstances.
    But 3rd party voters didn't lose the election for Hillary, nor did they win the election for Trump. Hillary's awful campaign failed to target voters in important states, and failed to bring out the numbers required. There were many, many registered voters who didn't vote. Perhaps they bear more responsibility than 3rd party voters, since they did absolutely nothing. But ultimately Trump won because Hillary can't run a campaign.
    I personally think Trump won because of the hate campaign waged against Clinton. Some of the leaders of that campaign were 3rd parties and their voters.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,969
    At the end of the day all parties are to be blamed for Bafoon being PE ! 3parties included ! !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    Depends on where those votes were cast. My 3rd party vote had absolutely zero impact on the outcome of this election. None. Hillary got the electoral votes from my state. So neither my vote, nor my state helped elect Trump.
    Yes, I understand how it works. The whole mindset surrounding the 3rd vote "campaign" at this particular time in history still applies though, IMO. I don't have any individuals in mind when I criticize that 3rd party "campaign". My disgust lies with the overall mindset, given the circumstances.
    But 3rd party voters didn't lose the election for Hillary, nor did they win the election for Trump. Hillary's awful campaign failed to target voters in important states, and failed to bring out the numbers required. There were many, many registered voters who didn't vote. Perhaps they bear more responsibility than 3rd party voters, since they did absolutely nothing. But ultimately Trump won because Hillary can't run a campaign.
    I personally think Trump won because of the hate campaign waged against Clinton. Some of the leaders of that campaign were 3rd parties and their voters.
    It was not about the hate waged against Clinton but about the fact that she is just not likeable, flawed, and generally uninspiring. It is why she lost to Obama in 2008. The writing was on the wall but the entire democratic party establishment refused to acknowledge it.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    Depends on where those votes were cast. My 3rd party vote had absolutely zero impact on the outcome of this election. None. Hillary got the electoral votes from my state. So neither my vote, nor my state helped elect Trump.
    Yes, I understand how it works. The whole mindset surrounding the 3rd vote "campaign" at this particular time in history still applies though, IMO. I don't have any individuals in mind when I criticize that 3rd party "campaign". My disgust lies with the overall mindset, given the circumstances.
    But 3rd party voters didn't lose the election for Hillary, nor did they win the election for Trump. Hillary's awful campaign failed to target voters in important states, and failed to bring out the numbers required. There were many, many registered voters who didn't vote. Perhaps they bear more responsibility than 3rd party voters, since they did absolutely nothing. But ultimately Trump won because Hillary can't run a campaign.
    I personally think Trump won because of the hate campaign waged against Clinton. Some of the leaders of that campaign were 3rd parties and their voters.
    It was not about the hate waged against Clinton but about the fact that she is just not likeable, flawed, and generally uninspiring. It is why she lost to Obama in 2008. The writing was on the wall but the entire democratic party establishment refused to acknowledge it.
    Seriously, what we need in a leader is someone charismatic. Someone who has the ability to move large audiences with bombastic speeches. Not this flawed candidate, but someone more....perfect. Like a super-person. Or an Ubermensch, if you will.

    Qualifications, schmualifications....amiright?!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    edited December 2016
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    EM194007 said:

    EM194007 said:
    Pot kettle black, trumpneck. You calling libs looney is like Amy Winehouse calling Rachel McAdams ugly. What's good for the goose...
    First off don't call me anything Trump, I didn't vote for him or Hildabeast. Your just making yourself look just like the two idiot's in the video, thinking your better then everyone else, well, your sure are NOT, now get over it!. If it was the opposite, and two Trumpsters were harasing and threatening a Hildabeast supporter, I'd call them the Looney Right.

    When did we loose are freedom of speech, you sure seem to act like we have with all your idiotic post.
    *you're
    And "you're" no better for lashing out at Stein voters like me for electing Trump.

    image
    Oh gee, thanks for the information, I didn't understand that a vote for Johnson was in fact a vote for Johnson. :dizzy:
    I'm sure you actually do understand how 3rd party votes impacted this election.
    Depends on where those votes were cast. My 3rd party vote had absolutely zero impact on the outcome of this election. None. Hillary got the electoral votes from my state. So neither my vote, nor my state helped elect Trump.
    Yes, I understand how it works. The whole mindset surrounding the 3rd vote "campaign" at this particular time in history still applies though, IMO. I don't have any individuals in mind when I criticize that 3rd party "campaign". My disgust lies with the overall mindset, given the circumstances.
    But 3rd party voters didn't lose the election for Hillary, nor did they win the election for Trump. Hillary's awful campaign failed to target voters in important states, and failed to bring out the numbers required. There were many, many registered voters who didn't vote. Perhaps they bear more responsibility than 3rd party voters, since they did absolutely nothing. But ultimately Trump won because Hillary can't run a campaign.
    I personally think Trump won because of the hate campaign waged against Clinton. Some of the leaders of that campaign were 3rd parties and their voters.
    It was not about the hate waged against Clinton but about the fact that she is just not likeable, flawed, and generally uninspiring. It is why she lost to Obama in 2008. The writing was on the wall but the entire democratic party establishment refused to acknowledge it.
    I'm not denying that. I'm just saying why I think some blame lands on 3rd parties and 3rd party voters as well. I totally think there is a lot of blame to spread around to others as well! However, I do believe that the hate campaign against Hillary made the difference between Trump winning and losing. I could say the same about a couple of other factors as well, but that doesn't take responsibility off of 3rd parties.
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