Castro has died.....

Bentleyspop

unsung said:

mattsl1983 said:

you are a horrible person if you morn Castro. It's pretty simple. I haven't read the thread, don't know what the debate is about, but if anyone is debating that Castro stood for anything good, well that would just be silly

People that mourn commies like Castro and Che really make me laugh when they protest Trump.

Ahhhh the good old days...

https://youtu.be/iFHhqlfypOo

CM189191

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

josevolution said:

JimmyV said:

josevolution said:

So has Bafoon issued a statement yet or will he attend the funeral Putin might want him too you know just to represent !

He literally tweeted "Fidel Castro is dead!" complete with exclamation point.

Ha haha he's so diplomatic !

Castro is responsible for the deaths of thousands.

I doubt their families care about your opinion over a tweet.

your leaders are responsible for the deaths of millions.

No reason to attack me, this is known, which is why I no longer participate in their sham of a political system.

"Do you vote against the greater evil if you don't happen to like the other candidate? The answer to that is yes," says Chomsky, on Americans who cast their votes for third party candidates or simply stayed home on election day.

"If you have any moral understanding, you want to keep the greater evil out," says Chomsky.
emphasis added

mickeyrat

polaris_x said:

i find it laughable the collective vitriol that exists for someone who provided free education and health care to all his people ... all this despite crippling sanctions ... did he do bad things!? ... absolutely ... but people have to understand context ... if the US wasn't waging it's economic imperialistic measures - who knows if that stuff would have happened ... america goes all around the world fucking up other countries for pure greed and most of you guys turn a blind eye ... but yet feel like you have the moral authority to decry someone who fought back against that ... you guys have no idea what it means to be fucked over like that ... look where it's gotten you ... the collective ignorance of a nation that has now elected someone who actually represents who most of you really are ... ignorant and selfish ...

not surprising for a country that still celebrates thanksgiving and columbus ...

to be fair, it was 61ish million of 230-240 million eligible voters.
but yeah, I see your point.

unsung

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

josevolution said:

JimmyV said:

josevolution said:

So has Bafoon issued a statement yet or will he attend the funeral Putin might want him too you know just to represent !

He literally tweeted "Fidel Castro is dead!" complete with exclamation point.

Ha haha he's so diplomatic !

Castro is responsible for the deaths of thousands.

I doubt their families care about your opinion over a tweet.

your leaders are responsible for the deaths of millions.

No reason to attack me, this is known, which is why I no longer participate in their sham of a political system.

"Do you vote against the greater evil if you don't happen to like the other candidate? The answer to that is yes," says Chomsky, on Americans who cast their votes for third party candidates or simply stayed home on election day.

"If you have any moral understanding, you want to keep the greater evil out," says Chomsky.
emphasis added

Eating a five pound shit sandwich isn't more morally appealing than eating a six pound shit sandwich.

Government is violence.

Voting is only how that violence is organized.

rgambs

^^^
Che was a commie
Government is a disease.
Government is violence.
You can't reason with statists.
I don't need rulers, I rule myself.
Beta males and cuckservatives.


You are a walking notebook full of nutty catchphrases lol

JC29856

rgambs said:

^^^
Che was a commie
Government is a disease.
Government is violence.
You can't reason with statists.
I don't need rulers, I rule myself.
Beta males and cuckservatives.


You are a walking notebook full of nutty catchphrases lol

Cuck is my new favorite word

pjalive21

polaris_x said:

i find it laughable the collective vitriol that exists for someone who provided free education and health care to all his people ... all this despite crippling sanctions ... did he do bad things!? ... absolutely ... but people have to understand context ... if the US wasn't waging it's economic imperialistic measures - who knows if that stuff would have happened ... america goes all around the world fucking up other countries for pure greed and most of you guys turn a blind eye ... but yet feel like you have the moral authority to decry someone who fought back against that ... you guys have no idea what it means to be fucked over like that ... look where it's gotten you ... the collective ignorance of a nation that has now elected someone who actually represents who most of you really are ... ignorant and selfish ...

not surprising for a country that still celebrates thanksgiving and columbus ...

Didn't Hitler do much of the same stuff and then you have someone applauding your comments right below you? Yikes....give people free stuff to suppress them and suck on the tit of the government...cmon you have to be smarter than this

as far as our government we have waged wars we should have never been in i will give you that

polaris_x

pjalive21 said:

polaris_x said:

i find it laughable the collective vitriol that exists for someone who provided free education and health care to all his people ... all this despite crippling sanctions ... did he do bad things!? ... absolutely ... but people have to understand context ... if the US wasn't waging it's economic imperialistic measures - who knows if that stuff would have happened ... america goes all around the world fucking up other countries for pure greed and most of you guys turn a blind eye ... but yet feel like you have the moral authority to decry someone who fought back against that ... you guys have no idea what it means to be fucked over like that ... look where it's gotten you ... the collective ignorance of a nation that has now elected someone who actually represents who most of you really are ... ignorant and selfish ...

not surprising for a country that still celebrates thanksgiving and columbus ...

Didn't Hitler do much of the same stuff and then you have someone applauding your comments right below you? Yikes....give people free stuff to suppress them and suck on the tit of the government...cmon you have to be smarter than this

as far as our government we have waged wars we should have never been in i will give you that

dude ... did you really just compare Castro to Hitler? ... and you're saying I should be smarter than this ... perhaps you should read up a bit ...

PJ_Soul

Well Hitler did oppress political dissent and the press, and imprisoned political activists, and banned trade unions.... There are parallels. Anyone who refuses to recognize parallels between current leaders and Hitler, even when the parallels are proven fact, are simply suffering from a mental block.

polaris_x

PJ_Soul said:

Well Hitler did oppress political dissent and the press, and imprisoned political activists, and banned trade unions.... There are parallels. Anyone who refuses to recognize parallels between current leaders and Hitler, even when the parallels are proven fact, are simply suffering from a mental block.

sure ... so, stephen harper blocked the press ... should I call him hitler and tyrannical too?

unsung

JC29856 said:

rgambs said:

^^^
Che was a commie
Government is a disease.
Government is violence.
You can't reason with statists.
I don't need rulers, I rule myself.
Beta males and cuckservatives.


You are a walking notebook full of nutty catchphrases lol

Cuck is my new favorite word

Careful.

unsung

rgambs said:

^^^
Che was a commie
Government is a disease.
Government is violence.
You can't reason with statists.
I don't need rulers, I rule myself.
Beta males and cuckservatives.


You are a walking notebook full of nutty catchphrases lol

And yet you can't dispute your shit policies that would never exist in a voluntary system.

benjs

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

josevolution said:

JimmyV said:

josevolution said:

So has Bafoon issued a statement yet or will he attend the funeral Putin might want him too you know just to represent !

He literally tweeted "Fidel Castro is dead!" complete with exclamation point.

Ha haha he's so diplomatic !

Castro is responsible for the deaths of thousands.

I doubt their families care about your opinion over a tweet.

your leaders are responsible for the deaths of millions.

No reason to attack me, this is known, which is why I no longer participate in their sham of a political system.

"Do you vote against the greater evil if you don't happen to like the other candidate? The answer to that is yes," says Chomsky, on Americans who cast their votes for third party candidates or simply stayed home on election day.

"If you have any moral understanding, you want to keep the greater evil out," says Chomsky.
emphasis added

Eating a five pound shit sandwich isn't more morally appealing than eating a six pound shit sandwich.

Government is violence.

Voting is only how that violence is organized.

What if someone told you that your failure to eat a five pound shit sandwich would result in your being forced to eat a six pound shit sandwich?

In addition, I'm curious as to how you feel that either of your other statements (government is violence, voting is how violence is organized) hold true.

Go Beavers

unsung said:

rgambs said:

^^^
Che was a commie
Government is a disease.
Government is violence.
You can't reason with statists.
I don't need rulers, I rule myself.
Beta males and cuckservatives.


You are a walking notebook full of nutty catchphrases lol

And yet you can't dispute your shit policies that would never exist in a voluntary system.

Which ones wouldn't exist in a voluntary system?

PJ_Soul

polaris_x said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well Hitler did oppress political dissent and the press, and imprisoned political activists, and banned trade unions.... There are parallels. Anyone who refuses to recognize parallels between current leaders and Hitler, even when the parallels are proven fact, are simply suffering from a mental block.

sure ... so, stephen harper blocked the press ... should I call him hitler and tyrannical too?

Harper wasn't tyrannical in the way Castro was, and wasn't an dictator, but I am happy to discuss any parallels between Hitler and Harper. You sure ain't going to get any arguments from me about what a price Harper is. It's just that this is another thread about Castro. Also, the parallels between Castro and Hitler are factually more numerous and comparable than those between Hitler and Harper. I don't actually understand why you think alluding to other people who have their own faults somehow strengthens your argument about Castro. Liken somehow if some other random politician is an asshole, that somehow means Castro isn't one?

rgambs

unsung said:

rgambs said:

^^^
Che was a commie
Government is a disease.
Government is violence.
You can't reason with statists.
I don't need rulers, I rule myself.
Beta males and cuckservatives.


You are a walking notebook full of nutty catchphrases lol

And yet you can't dispute your shit policies that would never exist in a voluntary system.

I would love to have any sort of dispute you'd like, but you "won't" (can't) engage in debate, you just hit and run.

A voluntary system lol. You sound like a commie!

Please point me to the successful implementation of a voluntary system.

polaris_x

PJ_Soul said:

polaris_x said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well Hitler did oppress political dissent and the press, and imprisoned political activists, and banned trade unions.... There are parallels. Anyone who refuses to recognize parallels between current leaders and Hitler, even when the parallels are proven fact, are simply suffering from a mental block.

sure ... so, stephen harper blocked the press ... should I call him hitler and tyrannical too?

Harper wasn't tyrannical in the way Castro was, and wasn't an dictator, but I am happy to discuss any parallels between Hitler and Harper. You sure ain't going to get any arguments from me about what a price Harper is. It's just that this is another thread about Castro. Also, the parallels between Castro and Hitler are factually more numerous and comparable than those between Hitler and Harper. I don't actually understand why you think alluding to other people who have their own faults somehow strengthens your argument about Castro. Liken somehow if some other random politician is an asshole, that somehow means Castro isn't one?

my point here was only parallels can be drawn between any two people - it doesn't make the comparison legitimate ... there is a reality that is Cuba over the last half century ... not all of what is written or spoken of is true ... i re-iterate ... this was a country that the US tried to intervene and topple since the 60's ... this is a country that's only fault was that it embraced communism ... something we now know not to be evil in its philosophy like it was branded (and still believed by some) ... can anyone actually argue communism is more evil than capitalism after all we know now!? ...

PJ_Soul

polaris_x said:

PJ_Soul said:

polaris_x said:

PJ_Soul said:

Well Hitler did oppress political dissent and the press, and imprisoned political activists, and banned trade unions.... There are parallels. Anyone who refuses to recognize parallels between current leaders and Hitler, even when the parallels are proven fact, are simply suffering from a mental block.

sure ... so, stephen harper blocked the press ... should I call him hitler and tyrannical too?

Harper wasn't tyrannical in the way Castro was, and wasn't an dictator, but I am happy to discuss any parallels between Hitler and Harper. You sure ain't going to get any arguments from me about what a price Harper is. It's just that this is another thread about Castro. Also, the parallels between Castro and Hitler are factually more numerous and comparable than those between Hitler and Harper. I don't actually understand why you think alluding to other people who have their own faults somehow strengthens your argument about Castro. Liken somehow if some other random politician is an asshole, that somehow means Castro isn't one?

my point here was only parallels can be drawn between any two people - it doesn't make the comparison legitimate ... there is a reality that is Cuba over the last half century ... not all of what is written or spoken of is true ... i re-iterate ... this was a country that the US tried to intervene and topple since the 60's ... this is a country that's only fault was that it embraced communism ... something we now know not to be evil in its philosophy like it was branded (and still believed by some) ... can anyone actually argue communism is more evil than capitalism after all we know now!? ...

I argue that actual Communism has not yet existed as a national system of government. The word "Communism" was hijacked by dictators. Communism can only exist in its real form of the people can avoid greed and corruption, and embrace equality. So far, human beings have proven themselves incapable of that. Communism is too good for human society (so far). Capitalism on the other hand... well that is a system that is really very suitable for us greedy, power hungry, bigoted humans. Capitalism is like a metaphor for human nature, and it's really depressing.

Parallels that exist are parallels that exist. They are facts. That means they act as legitimate comparisons.

Degeneratefk

mickeyrat said:

intersting times ahead just got more interesting.......

I'm still wondering g what you meant by thjs.

DarthMaeglin

For what it's worth, as objectionable as I found his initial statement of condolences to be, I would have had no problem with Trudeau attending Castro's funeral, given his family's connections to Castro (I was secretly wondering as well if Trudeau's initial, glowing statement was him working to avoid being asked to give a similarly upbeat eulogy at the funeral, but obviously not).