Dem Party

JC29856

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

https://twitter.com/danielschuman/status/951500405317480453

Put another way, if 26 Republicans had voted the other way, they would have helped Danny and 3D to "win." Why did the republicans buck the wishes of their stable genius, Team Trump Treason?

but we know the GOP are evil doers only interested in enriching themselves and their cronies, the Dems on the other hand are the peoples party, the good guys seeking civil justice for all.

All true.. It's curious why you are a die hard right winger then..

still left of you!

JC29856

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/951502820557119488

https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill/status/951484773352034310

JC29856

For those that "missed" it, I repeat THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY IS TOO POWERFUL! We need to restrict those powers not expand them! Emperor Trump!

From the ACLU:
The House voted to give President Trump and his administration more spying powers. The government will use this bill to continue warrantless intrusions into Americans’ private emails, text messages, and other communications.
No president should have this power. Yet, members of Congress just voted to hand it to an administration that has labeled individuals as threats based merely on their religion, nationality, or viewpoints.

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

https://twitter.com/danielschuman/status/951500405317480453

Put another way, if 26 Republicans had voted the other way, they would have helped Danny and 3D to "win." Why did the republicans buck the wishes of their stable genius, Team Trump Treason?

but we know the GOP are evil doers only interested in enriching themselves and their cronies, the Dems on the other hand are the peoples party, the good guys seeking civil justice for all.

All true.. It's curious why you are a die hard right winger then..

still left of you!

There are no Trump supporters who are to the left of me.  Not physically possible.  

jeffbr

I know JC gets shit on a lot here (and often for valid reasons), but this is actually a worthy topic. Anyone who values freedom should be pissed off at those 55 dems, especially dem leadership like Pelosi and Schiff. Thankfully my dem representative didn't vote with those traitors. Anyone who supports warrentless surveillance of Americans is anti-freedom and clearly doesn't value Constitutional protections (like the 4th Amendment). I expect that out of the GOP these days. I was hoping the dems were a little more principled. Fuck all 55 on that list.

Go Beavers

But aren’t we supposed to be afraid of ISIS and all those Muslims? 

JC29856

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

https://twitter.com/danielschuman/status/951500405317480453

Put another way, if 26 Republicans had voted the other way, they would have helped Danny and 3D to "win." Why did the republicans buck the wishes of their stable genius, Team Trump Treason?

but we know the GOP are evil doers only interested in enriching themselves and their cronies, the Dems on the other hand are the peoples party, the good guys seeking civil justice for all.

All true.. It's curious why you are a die hard right winger then..

still left of you!

There are no Trump supporters who are to the left of me.  Not physically possible.  

I voted for Obama in 2008 but wouldn't consider myself a supporter. Nor is it possible for a die hard male Hilliary campaign donor and campaign volunteer to be left of me, not possible.

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

https://twitter.com/danielschuman/status/951500405317480453

Put another way, if 26 Republicans had voted the other way, they would have helped Danny and 3D to "win." Why did the republicans buck the wishes of their stable genius, Team Trump Treason?

but we know the GOP are evil doers only interested in enriching themselves and their cronies, the Dems on the other hand are the peoples party, the good guys seeking civil justice for all.

All true.. It's curious why you are a die hard right winger then..

still left of you!

There are no Trump supporters who are to the left of me.  Not physically possible.  

I voted for Obama in 2008 but wouldn't consider myself a supporter. Nor is it possible for a die hard male Hilliary campaign donor and campaign volunteer to be left of me, not possible.

I neither donated or volunteered.  Try again.  

JimmyV

jeffbr said:

I know JC gets shit on a lot here (and often for valid reasons), but this is actually a worthy topic. Anyone who values freedom should be pissed off at those 55 dems, especially dem leadership like Pelosi and Schiff. Thankfully my dem representative didn't vote with those traitors. Anyone who supports warrentless surveillance of Americans is anti-freedom and clearly doesn't value Constitutional protections (like the 4th Amendment). I expect that out of the GOP these days. I was hoping the dems were a little more principled. Fuck all 55 on that list.

I was relieved to see my Congressman was not among them.

JC29856

Go Beavers said:

But aren’t we supposed to be afraid of ISIS and all those Muslims? 

no, we're doing our best to eradicate them via democracy and liberation bombs for the last 15 straight years!

jeffbr

Go Beavers said:

But aren’t we supposed to be afraid of ISIS and all those Muslims? 

That's what both parties hope we believe. That's how the Patriot Act was able to be passed, renewed and expanded. Bush, Obama, Trump administrations, Democrat and Republican controlled congresses all want expanded powers of surveillance over us, using Al Queda, ISIS, Muslims or whatever other boogymen they can conjure as the excuse.

ACLU OPPOSES NEW SURVEILLANCE BILL

“We strongly oppose this legislation,” said Neema Singh Guliani, ACLU legislative counsel. “This bill is not reform by any stretch of the imagination. It leaves the door wide open to abusive surveillance practices that allow the government to search the intimate emails, text messages, and other sensitive data of Americans without a warrant of any kind. This could easily permit Section 702 to be used as a tool to improperly target minorities, government critics, and marginalized communities.”

She continued, “Congress should abandon efforts to pass this legislation and reject the false assertion that this type of illegal surveillance power is needed to protect national security. Instead, they should require the government to get a warrant when searching through Section 702 data looking for information of American citizens and residents.”

The bill gives the FBI and other federal agencies wide latitude to search through Section 702 data looking for information about Americans without a warrant, even before an active investigation has been opened. In addition, the bill’s language risks being read as a codification and expansion of certain illegal government practices such as collecting communications that are not to or from a surveillance target, including domestic communications.

Halifax2TheMax

jeffbr said:

Go Beavers said:

But aren’t we supposed to be afraid of ISIS and all those Muslims? 

That's what both parties hope we believe. That's how the Patriot Act was able to be passed, renewed and expanded. Bush, Obama, Trump administrations, Democrat and Republican controlled congresses all want expanded powers of surveillance over us, using Al Queda, ISIS, Muslims or whatever other boogymen they can conjure as the excuse.

ACLU OPPOSES NEW SURVEILLANCE BILL

“We strongly oppose this legislation,” said Neema Singh Guliani, ACLU legislative counsel. “This bill is not reform by any stretch of the imagination. It leaves the door wide open to abusive surveillance practices that allow the government to search the intimate emails, text messages, and other sensitive data of Americans without a warrant of any kind. This could easily permit Section 702 to be used as a tool to improperly target minorities, government critics, and marginalized communities.”

She continued, “Congress should abandon efforts to pass this legislation and reject the false assertion that this type of illegal surveillance power is needed to protect national security. Instead, they should require the government to get a warrant when searching through Section 702 data looking for information of American citizens and residents.”

The bill gives the FBI and other federal agencies wide latitude to search through Section 702 data looking for information about Americans without a warrant, even before an active investigation has been opened. In addition, the bill’s language risks being read as a codification and expansion of certain illegal government practices such as collecting communications that are not to or from a surveillance target, including domestic communications.

But why is it that everyone harps on the Dems for this type of shit? Because you know, if the Dems vote against any "terrorism" related bill, they'll be painted as soft on terrorism. And republicans are always harping on being the party of individual freedoms and getting government off your back, unless its terrorism, abortion and pot smoking. Where's the twitterage listing all of the repubes who voted for the bill? Where's the Twitterager at Team Trump Treason, the same Team Trump Treason who blames it for him being surveilled? Where's 3D and his scathing D'ing of repubes? 

jeffbr

Halifax2TheMax said:

jeffbr said:

Go Beavers said:

But aren’t we supposed to be afraid of ISIS and all those Muslims? 

That's what both parties hope we believe. That's how the Patriot Act was able to be passed, renewed and expanded. Bush, Obama, Trump administrations, Democrat and Republican controlled congresses all want expanded powers of surveillance over us, using Al Queda, ISIS, Muslims or whatever other boogymen they can conjure as the excuse.

ACLU OPPOSES NEW SURVEILLANCE BILL

“We strongly oppose this legislation,” said Neema Singh Guliani, ACLU legislative counsel. “This bill is not reform by any stretch of the imagination. It leaves the door wide open to abusive surveillance practices that allow the government to search the intimate emails, text messages, and other sensitive data of Americans without a warrant of any kind. This could easily permit Section 702 to be used as a tool to improperly target minorities, government critics, and marginalized communities.”

She continued, “Congress should abandon efforts to pass this legislation and reject the false assertion that this type of illegal surveillance power is needed to protect national security. Instead, they should require the government to get a warrant when searching through Section 702 data looking for information of American citizens and residents.”

The bill gives the FBI and other federal agencies wide latitude to search through Section 702 data looking for information about Americans without a warrant, even before an active investigation has been opened. In addition, the bill’s language risks being read as a codification and expansion of certain illegal government practices such as collecting communications that are not to or from a surveillance target, including domestic communications.

But why is it that everyone harps on the Dems for this type of shit? Because you know, if the Dems vote against any "terrorism" related bill, they'll be painted as soft on terrorism. And republicans are always harping on being the party of individual freedoms and getting government off your back, unless its terrorism, abortion and pot smoking. Where's the twitterage listing all of the repubes who voted for the bill? Where's the Twitterager at Team Trump Treason, the same Team Trump Treason who blames it for him being surveilled? Where's 3D and his scathing D'ing of repubes? 

I have plenty of outrage for Republicans, and express that often. I think the outrage at the Dems here is because it is expected that Republicans will go for this sort of thing. They were the original instigators of the power grab with the Patriot Act. I expect the opposition party to work in opposition, especially for something so fundamental. So that is why my outrage at those 55 Dems today. It should not be taboo to call out anyone behaving badly, regardless of party.

Halifax2TheMax

jeffbr said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

jeffbr said:

Go Beavers said:

But aren’t we supposed to be afraid of ISIS and all those Muslims? 

That's what both parties hope we believe. That's how the Patriot Act was able to be passed, renewed and expanded. Bush, Obama, Trump administrations, Democrat and Republican controlled congresses all want expanded powers of surveillance over us, using Al Queda, ISIS, Muslims or whatever other boogymen they can conjure as the excuse.

ACLU OPPOSES NEW SURVEILLANCE BILL

“We strongly oppose this legislation,” said Neema Singh Guliani, ACLU legislative counsel. “This bill is not reform by any stretch of the imagination. It leaves the door wide open to abusive surveillance practices that allow the government to search the intimate emails, text messages, and other sensitive data of Americans without a warrant of any kind. This could easily permit Section 702 to be used as a tool to improperly target minorities, government critics, and marginalized communities.”

She continued, “Congress should abandon efforts to pass this legislation and reject the false assertion that this type of illegal surveillance power is needed to protect national security. Instead, they should require the government to get a warrant when searching through Section 702 data looking for information of American citizens and residents.”

The bill gives the FBI and other federal agencies wide latitude to search through Section 702 data looking for information about Americans without a warrant, even before an active investigation has been opened. In addition, the bill’s language risks being read as a codification and expansion of certain illegal government practices such as collecting communications that are not to or from a surveillance target, including domestic communications.

But why is it that everyone harps on the Dems for this type of shit? Because you know, if the Dems vote against any "terrorism" related bill, they'll be painted as soft on terrorism. And republicans are always harping on being the party of individual freedoms and getting government off your back, unless its terrorism, abortion and pot smoking. Where's the twitterage listing all of the repubes who voted for the bill? Where's the Twitterager at Team Trump Treason, the same Team Trump Treason who blames it for him being surveilled? Where's 3D and his scathing D'ing of repubes? 

I have plenty of outrage for Republicans, and express that often. I think the outrage at the Dems here is because it is expected that Republicans will go for this sort of thing. They were the original instigators of the power grab with the Patriot Act. I expect the opposition party to work in opposition, especially for something so fundamental. So that is why my outrage at those 55 Dems today. It should not be taboo to call out anyone behaving badly, regardless of party.

I've googled looking for the repubes who voted for the bill but its not posted yet, that I've been able to find. I'm old and my eyesight is failing so someone help me out and post a link. I want to see all who are "accountable."

jeffbr

Halifax2TheMax said:

jeffbr said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

jeffbr said:

Go Beavers said:

But aren’t we supposed to be afraid of ISIS and all those Muslims? 

That's what both parties hope we believe. That's how the Patriot Act was able to be passed, renewed and expanded. Bush, Obama, Trump administrations, Democrat and Republican controlled congresses all want expanded powers of surveillance over us, using Al Queda, ISIS, Muslims or whatever other boogymen they can conjure as the excuse.

ACLU OPPOSES NEW SURVEILLANCE BILL

“We strongly oppose this legislation,” said Neema Singh Guliani, ACLU legislative counsel. “This bill is not reform by any stretch of the imagination. It leaves the door wide open to abusive surveillance practices that allow the government to search the intimate emails, text messages, and other sensitive data of Americans without a warrant of any kind. This could easily permit Section 702 to be used as a tool to improperly target minorities, government critics, and marginalized communities.”

She continued, “Congress should abandon efforts to pass this legislation and reject the false assertion that this type of illegal surveillance power is needed to protect national security. Instead, they should require the government to get a warrant when searching through Section 702 data looking for information of American citizens and residents.”

The bill gives the FBI and other federal agencies wide latitude to search through Section 702 data looking for information about Americans without a warrant, even before an active investigation has been opened. In addition, the bill’s language risks being read as a codification and expansion of certain illegal government practices such as collecting communications that are not to or from a surveillance target, including domestic communications.

But why is it that everyone harps on the Dems for this type of shit? Because you know, if the Dems vote against any "terrorism" related bill, they'll be painted as soft on terrorism. And republicans are always harping on being the party of individual freedoms and getting government off your back, unless its terrorism, abortion and pot smoking. Where's the twitterage listing all of the repubes who voted for the bill? Where's the Twitterager at Team Trump Treason, the same Team Trump Treason who blames it for him being surveilled? Where's 3D and his scathing D'ing of repubes? 

I have plenty of outrage for Republicans, and express that often. I think the outrage at the Dems here is because it is expected that Republicans will go for this sort of thing. They were the original instigators of the power grab with the Patriot Act. I expect the opposition party to work in opposition, especially for something so fundamental. So that is why my outrage at those 55 Dems today. It should not be taboo to call out anyone behaving badly, regardless of party.

I've googled looking for the repubes who voted for the bill but its not posted yet, that I've been able to find. I'm old and my eyesight is failing so someone help me out and post a link. I want to see all who are "accountable."

Here's the vote according to the House clerk. It looks like it was actually 65 Dems and 191 Republicans voting yes if I'm reading it right. Thankfully, my Dem representative voted no.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll016.xml

Go Beavers

It’s always been supported by a certain number of Dems. 

Halifax2TheMax

Go Beavers said:

It’s always been supported by a certain number of Dems. 

I know but it’s always been overwhelmingly supported by way more repubes and yet they never bear any responsibility nor get called out for it. Where’s Randy Paul damning his colleagues? Will Randy Paul implore Team Trump Treason to veto the bill, in all his feigned libertarian righteousness?

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Dennis Montgomery and The Hammer

A former U.S. intelligence contractor tells Circa he walked away with more than 600 million classified documents on 47 hard drives from the National Security Agency and the CIA, a haul potentially larger than Edward Snowden's now infamous breach.

And now he is suing former FBI Director James Comey and other government figures, alleging the bureau has covered up evidence he provided them showing widespread spying on Americans that violated civil liberties.

Where were you during the Bush Administration? Is this new news? D’ing hard for the dolla!

Since you mention Bush, how about an email that Bush and Turd Blossom star in!

AGENTS: BUSH FIRINGS OBSTRUCTED SEX / SPY PROBE

AGENTS: BUSH FIRINGS OBSTRUCTED SEX / SPY PROBE TomFlocco.com Foggo sex
ring probe linked to forged Iraq dossier, Israeli espionage, convicted
lobbyist Abramoff

According to U.S. intelligence sources, President Bush obstructed justice
last December when he had senior advisor Karl Rove and White House Counsel
Harriet Miers instruct Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez to fire eight
U.S. attorneys who were among several others conducting ongoing public
corruption and secret national security grand jury investigations
connected to an espionagea**linked prostitution / pedophile sex ring
operating at the Washington Ritz-Carlton and other DC hotels, whose
clients included U.S. senators and congressmen, elite Washington news
reporters and high government officialsa**some of whom were named by an
intelligence insider.

Central to the scandal is fired U.S. attorney Carole Lam of California who
was reportedly conducting testimony before grand juries linking indicted
former Bush CIA Executive Director Kyle a**Dustya** Foggo and convicted
Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff to the sex ring, Israeli espionage, GOP
Under Secretary of Defense for policy Douglas J. Feith, a forged British
intelligence dossier used by Mr. Bush to deceive Americans into supporting
war against Iraq and an attempt to plant weapons of mass destruction (WMD)
in Iraq before the war via an intelligence pipeline through Dubai and
Turkey. READ MORE

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/47/475107_agents-bush-firings-obstructed-sex-spy-probe-.html


https://youtu.be/tzuJXqgsiSM

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Dennis Montgomery and The Hammer

A former U.S. intelligence contractor tells Circa he walked away with more than 600 million classified documents on 47 hard drives from the National Security Agency and the CIA, a haul potentially larger than Edward Snowden's now infamous breach.

And now he is suing former FBI Director James Comey and other government figures, alleging the bureau has covered up evidence he provided them showing widespread spying on Americans that violated civil liberties.

Where were you during the Bush Administration? Is this new news? D’ing hard for the dolla!

Since you mention Bush, how about an email that Bush and Turd Blossom star in!

AGENTS: BUSH FIRINGS OBSTRUCTED SEX / SPY PROBE

AGENTS: BUSH FIRINGS OBSTRUCTED SEX / SPY PROBE TomFlocco.com Foggo sex
ring probe linked to forged Iraq dossier, Israeli espionage, convicted
lobbyist Abramoff

According to U.S. intelligence sources, President Bush obstructed justice
last December when he had senior advisor Karl Rove and White House Counsel
Harriet Miers instruct Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez to fire eight
U.S. attorneys who were among several others conducting ongoing public
corruption and secret national security grand jury investigations
connected to an espionagea**linked prostitution / pedophile sex ring
operating at the Washington Ritz-Carlton and other DC hotels, whose
clients included U.S. senators and congressmen, elite Washington news
reporters and high government officialsa**some of whom were named by an
intelligence insider.

Central to the scandal is fired U.S. attorney Carole Lam of California who
was reportedly conducting testimony before grand juries linking indicted
former Bush CIA Executive Director Kyle a**Dustya** Foggo and convicted
Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff to the sex ring, Israeli espionage, GOP
Under Secretary of Defense for policy Douglas J. Feith, a forged British
intelligence dossier used by Mr. Bush to deceive Americans into supporting
war against Iraq and an attempt to plant weapons of mass destruction (WMD)
in Iraq before the war via an intelligence pipeline through Dubai and
Turkey. READ MORE

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/47/475107_agents-bush-firings-obstructed-sex-spy-probe-.html


https://youtu.be/tzuJXqgsiSM

3D, D’ing. Must be some forthcoming announcements regarding Team Mueller’s investigation of Team Trump Treason. Seeing how Team Trump Treason’s “fake news awards” presentation is scheduled for Wednesday night and his Treasonous SOTU is coming up, timing is about right.

JC29856

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JC29856 said:

Dennis Montgomery and The Hammer

A former U.S. intelligence contractor tells Circa he walked away with more than 600 million classified documents on 47 hard drives from the National Security Agency and the CIA, a haul potentially larger than Edward Snowden's now infamous breach.

And now he is suing former FBI Director James Comey and other government figures, alleging the bureau has covered up evidence he provided them showing widespread spying on Americans that violated civil liberties.

Where were you during the Bush Administration? Is this new news? D’ing hard for the dolla!

Since you mention Bush, how about an email that Bush and Turd Blossom star in!

AGENTS: BUSH FIRINGS OBSTRUCTED SEX / SPY PROBE

AGENTS: BUSH FIRINGS OBSTRUCTED SEX / SPY PROBE TomFlocco.com Foggo sex
ring probe linked to forged Iraq dossier, Israeli espionage, convicted
lobbyist Abramoff

According to U.S. intelligence sources, President Bush obstructed justice
last December when he had senior advisor Karl Rove and White House Counsel
Harriet Miers instruct Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez to fire eight
U.S. attorneys who were among several others conducting ongoing public
corruption and secret national security grand jury investigations
connected to an espionagea**linked prostitution / pedophile sex ring
operating at the Washington Ritz-Carlton and other DC hotels, whose
clients included U.S. senators and congressmen, elite Washington news
reporters and high government officialsa**some of whom were named by an
intelligence insider.

Central to the scandal is fired U.S. attorney Carole Lam of California who
was reportedly conducting testimony before grand juries linking indicted
former Bush CIA Executive Director Kyle a**Dustya** Foggo and convicted
Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff to the sex ring, Israeli espionage, GOP
Under Secretary of Defense for policy Douglas J. Feith, a forged British
intelligence dossier used by Mr. Bush to deceive Americans into supporting
war against Iraq and an attempt to plant weapons of mass destruction (WMD)
in Iraq before the war via an intelligence pipeline through Dubai and
Turkey. READ MORE

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/47/475107_agents-bush-firings-obstructed-sex-spy-probe-.html


https://youtu.be/tzuJXqgsiSM

3D, D’ing. Must be some forthcoming announcements regarding Team Mueller’s investigation of Team Trump Treason. Seeing how Team Trump Treason’s “fake news awards” presentation is scheduled for Wednesday night and his Treasonous SOTU is coming up, timing is about right.

Resistance!!! Sit out the SOTU address!!! WOW! Women wearing black!!!!! Serious resistance!!!!!!!