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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,612
    edited November 11
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,948
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


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  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide Posts: 887
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


    ‘Murica is an ugly country.
    Then what’s keeping you here?  
  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide Posts: 887
    Kamala had a $1 billion war chest, yet her campaign is now $20 million in debt?  Wtf?  Where’s the $20 million? 
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,720
    They need to really refine their message and priorities.  No longer can they just bank on inner-city vote pushing them over the top.  Need to speak to everyone.  

    The Republicans/Trump have a mandate as of now.  2 Years will be here quick.  The economy is doing pretty good and we are in relative peace-time.  If those things change, the rubber band will snap back.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,948
    MayDay10 said:
    They need to really refine their message and priorities.  No longer can they just bank on inner-city vote pushing them over the top.  Need to speak to everyone.  

    The Republicans/Trump have a mandate as of now.  2 Years will be here quick.  The economy is doing pretty good and we are in relative peace-time.  If those things change, the rubber band will snap back.  
    Dems refining their messaging doesn’t mean squat. Their messaging doesn’t break through the caveman brain. What is the dem version of Joebro and Alex Sandy Hook was a staged event Jones? Nothing gets through to these folks in significant enough numbers to make a difference regardless of “medium.” Lost cause.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,948
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


    ‘Murica is an ugly country.
    Then what’s keeping you here?  
    Nothing.
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  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide Posts: 887
    Interesting read from a NYT opinion columnist.  

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,070
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Interesting read from a NYT opinion columnist.  

    We've been saying for years that the GOP did a great job convincing working class people to vote for them. Unfortunately this year they were able to grab even more. I'm not sure anyone could have done that other than trump which is why he is such a danger to our system.

    He's a great actor. Only a great actor could lie like that, dodge questions, and still have no one hold him accountable.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,085
    The party lost both houses and the presidency to a party run by Trump and his synchophants.

    It's a third party now. Time to focus on local and statewide elections and shoot for something like 2036 to take another shot at the White House. Do what the Libertarian and Green parties should have been doing and build up to national contention.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,608
    OnWis97 said:
    The party lost both houses and the presidency to a party run by Trump and his synchophants.

    It's a third party now. Time to focus on local and statewide elections and shoot for something like 2036 to take another shot at the White House. Do what the Libertarian and Green parties should have been doing and build up to national contention.
    I don’t believe the lesson is to move left. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    edited November 13
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,946
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     



    I reckon that's yet another sign of how Americans in general are become more and more stupid.  No one with half a brain would really think life will be better under the Felon's thumb. 
    Several George Carlin lines come to mind.

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • battle1battle1 Posts: 156
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


    ‘Murica is an ugly country.
    Then what’s keeping you here?  
    Nothing.
    May I ask, why are you here?  You clearly hate this country, and as you stated nothing is keeping you here.  Perhaps an acronym to explain? 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,948
    battle1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


    ‘Murica is an ugly country.
    Then what’s keeping you here?  
    Nothing.
    May I ask, why are you here?  You clearly hate this country, and as you stated nothing is keeping you here.  Perhaps an acronym to explain? 
    Where? On this forum?
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  • ChoccoloccotideChoccoloccotide Posts: 887
    battle1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


    ‘Murica is an ugly country.
    Then what’s keeping you here?  
    Nothing.
    May I ask, why are you here?  You clearly hate this country, and as you stated nothing is keeping you here.  Perhaps an acronym to explain? 
    There’s a lot America haters on this forum.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,875
    Choccoloccotide said:
    battle1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


    ‘Murica is an ugly country.
    Then what’s keeping you here?  
    Nothing.
    May I ask, why are you here?  You clearly hate this country, and as you stated nothing is keeping you here.  Perhaps an acronym to explain? 
    There’s a lot America haters on this forum.
    Moronic. People here know its potential, and realizes that it often falls short. Just for different reasons than the magats. Like J6, charlottesville, the supreme court going full gilead, isreal fealty, and the ascension of POS like trump and musk. 
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    Choccoloccotide said:
    battle1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


    ‘Murica is an ugly country.
    Then what’s keeping you here?  
    Nothing.
    May I ask, why are you here?  You clearly hate this country, and as you stated nothing is keeping you here.  Perhaps an acronym to explain? 
    There’s a lot America haters on this forum.
    No it's lots of people  who love America but hate what it has become. And where it is heading.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    Choccoloccotide said:
    battle1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nothing wrong with that, I guess they got at least a year before planning for midterms.

    but for anyone that wants a shocker, go state by state and see what trump did on a state level, including in deep blue regions/counties

    as far as NYS goes, the counties near me that I can recall offhand, trump gained-

    manhattan, (the liberal stronghold) +6

    queens +20

    brooklyn +11

    Nassau +14




     


    ‘Murica is an ugly country.
    Then what’s keeping you here?  
    Nothing.
    May I ask, why are you here?  You clearly hate this country, and as you stated nothing is keeping you here.  Perhaps an acronym to explain? 
    There’s a lot America haters on this forum.
    We're talking about the MAGA posters who are soft on Russia here, right?



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