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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Why the new thread?

  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Everything gets Lost in the trump thread. But I just moved it to the mods can delete this.

    Happier now?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Free said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gyNRqIp5U

    Legend!
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gyNRqIp5U

    Legend!
    He's nuts but so right on!
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,436
    Free said:

    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gyNRqIp5U

    Legend!
    He's nuts but so right on!
    Speaking as a registered democrat myself, he's definitely not wrong.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    This could not be more spot on.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Free said:

    Everything gets Lost in the trump thread. But I just moved it to the mods can delete this.

    Happier now?

    I definitely know what you mean things get lost in the other thread. Good to see your video is getting more views and comments in this thread.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited November 2016
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Free said:

    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gyNRqIp5U

    Legend!
    He's nuts but so right on!
    Speaking as a registered democrat myself, he's definitely not wrong.
    sorry, read this wrong at first.
    Post edited by Free on
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Free said:

    Everything gets Lost in the trump thread. But I just moved it to the mods can delete this.

    Happier now?

    I definitely know what you mean things get lost in the other thread. Good to see your video is getting more views and comments in this thread.
    This should be viral.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Free ... that was a great video. Hard to argue with the fellow in the video. Unfortunately it's not garnering much attention around here...
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    Anybody know who the guy is?
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    ^^^
    Jonathan Pie

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    lukin2006 said:

    ^^^
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    Thanks.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20161113_Why_God_s_Country_voted_for_Trump.html

    actually read this story from the Sunday Philadelphia Inquirer. these are the kinds of idiots that elected Trump. racist back country hillbillies and idiots who think he represents some kind of change. I hope they go back and interview these people when every Trump cabinet nominee is a Washington insider. what will they say about Trump representing change then? Trump said exactly what these types wanted to hear and they bought it all even though a good portion of it was bs. one guy in the article even says Trump is a humanitarian who wants to help the country. really?
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    pjhawks said:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20161113_Why_God_s_Country_voted_for_Trump.html

    actually read this story from the Sunday Philadelphia Inquirer. these are the kinds of idiots that elected Trump. racist back country hillbillies and idiots who think he represents some kind of change. I hope they go back and interview these people when every Trump cabinet nominee is a Washington insider. what will they say about Trump representing change then? Trump said exactly what these types wanted to hear and they bought it all even though a good portion of it was bs. one guy in the article even says Trump is a humanitarian who wants to help the country. really?

    So what your saying is he tells the people one thing and will do just the opposite...and people didn't think he understood politics, sounds like every other politician...
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    lukin2006 said:

    pjhawks said:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20161113_Why_God_s_Country_voted_for_Trump.html

    actually read this story from the Sunday Philadelphia Inquirer. these are the kinds of idiots that elected Trump. racist back country hillbillies and idiots who think he represents some kind of change. I hope they go back and interview these people when every Trump cabinet nominee is a Washington insider. what will they say about Trump representing change then? Trump said exactly what these types wanted to hear and they bought it all even though a good portion of it was bs. one guy in the article even says Trump is a humanitarian who wants to help the country. really?

    So what your saying is he tells the people one thing and will do just the opposite...and people didn't think he understood politics, sounds like every other politician...
    except what he told them was outrageous shit he is already backing away from.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Hillary
    propped up trump and her war hawkishness.
    interesting read imo

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/clinton-because-communities/amp/

    professors argue that Clinton lost the battleground states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan in last year’s presidential election because they had some of the highest casualty rates during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and voters there saw Clinton as the pro-war candidate.

    By contrast, her pro-war positions did not hurt her in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and California, the study says; because those states were relatively unscathed by the Middle East wars.

    The study is titled “Battlefield Casualties and Ballot Box Defeat: Did the Bush-Obama Wars Cost Clinton the White House?” 

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    JC29856 said:
    Hillary
    propped up trump and her war hawkishness.
    interesting read imo

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/clinton-because-communities/amp/

    professors argue that Clinton lost the battleground states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan in last year’s presidential election because they had some of the highest casualty rates during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and voters there saw Clinton as the pro-war candidate.

    By contrast, her pro-war positions did not hurt her in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and California, the study says; because those states were relatively unscathed by the Middle East wars.

    The study is titled “Battlefield Casualties and Ballot Box Defeat: Did the Bush-Obama Wars Cost Clinton the White House?” 

    The right always wants more war.  Regardless of the casualties.  Trump won MI, WI and PA due to Russian interference and targeted facebook ads portraying Hillary as the devil.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Gern Blansten said:
    JC29856 said:
    Hillary
    propped up trump and her war hawkishness.
    interesting read imo

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/clinton-because-communities/amp/

    professors argue that Clinton lost the battleground states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan in last year’s presidential election because they had some of the highest casualty rates during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and voters there saw Clinton as the pro-war candidate.

    By contrast, her pro-war positions did not hurt her in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and California, the study says; because those states were relatively unscathed by the Middle East wars.

    The study is titled “Battlefield Casualties and Ballot Box Defeat: Did the Bush-Obama Wars Cost Clinton the White House?” 

    The right always wants more war.  Regardless of the casualties.  Trump won MI, WI and PA due to Russian interference and targeted facebook ads portraying Hillary as the devil.
    could have been Facebook...someone in the Democratic party leadership believes war vets are important.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/us/politics/democrats-veterans-house-midterm-elections.html

  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited July 2017
    This is who is to blame for Donald Trump.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Obama, Obama, Obama! No, Trump voters and supporters are responsible for Trump. They own it, him and his policies.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited July 2017
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Obama, Obama, Obama! No, Trump voters and supporters are responsible for Trump. They own it, him and his policies.

    Well at least they can accept it.  Hillary voters and supporters can't accept their loss and blame Russia.  Sad!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Obama, Obama, Obama! No, Trump voters and supporters are responsible for Trump. They own it, him and his policies.

    Well at least they can accept it.  Hillary voters and supporters can't accept their loss and blame Russia.  Sad!
    So you admit that Russia elected Trump. Progress.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    unsung said:
    This is who is to blame for Donald Trump.
    So you're saying you would have preferred a democratic candidate other than Hillary be POTUS right now instead of Trump?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    How can you possibly deduct that?

    Any other candidate would have beat him, except maybe Sanders.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    unsung said:
    This is who is to blame for Donald Trump.
    nope....she got 3 million more votes than tRump.

    Russian interference and ignorant Americans are to blame.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,030
    Gern Blansten said:
    unsung said:
    This is who is to blame for Donald Trump.
    nope....she got 3 million more votes than tRump.

    Russian interference and ignorant Americans are to blame.
    Unfortunately, she didn't get enough of them in the right states because we still have the antiquated electoral college.  But maybe it's more about the people who didn't vote than it was about the ones who voted for whom.

    If the whole Russian interference thing turns out to be true we will have something to bitch about.  But there are some sharp minds who believe the whole Russian things is simply smoke and mirrors that democrats hang on to rather than face up to having made some poor choices (see photo above, for example).

    I'm not saying any of this to piss off my democrat friends here.  You know I lean that way more than republican.  But the democratic party  is in nearly just as much disarray and the sooner that is recognized, the sooner something will be done to make it a strong party again.  Let's start facing reality and stop blaming things we cannot prove. 

    Peace friends, I'm only trying to help. 
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  • Kev - Coat and KeysKev - Coat and Keys Posts: 357
    I thought the 2007 writer's strike was to blame for Trump.
    Changed the fortune of his TV career and turned him into a celebrity - a thing Conservatives love to vote for.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Gern Blansten said:
    unsung said:
    This is who is to blame for Donald Trump.
    nope....she got 3 million more votes than tRump.

    Russian interference and ignorant Americans are to blame.
    The Constitution is to blame, admit it.  Admit that you hate having rules for government. 
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    brianlux said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    unsung said:
    This is who is to blame for Donald Trump.
    nope....she got 3 million more votes than tRump.

    Russian interference and ignorant Americans are to blame.
    Unfortunately, she didn't get enough of them in the right states because we still have the antiquated electoral college.  But maybe it's more about the people who didn't vote than it was about the ones who voted for whom.

    If the whole Russian interference thing turns out to be true we will have something to bitch about.  But there are some sharp minds who believe the whole Russian things is simply smoke and mirrors that democrats hang on to rather than face up to having made some poor choices (see photo above, for example).

    I'm not saying any of this to piss off my democrat friends here.  You know I lean that way more than republican.  But the democratic party  is in nearly just as much disarray and the sooner that is recognized, the sooner something will be done to make it a strong party again.  Let's start facing reality and stop blaming things we cannot prove. 

    Peace friends, I'm only trying to help. 
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