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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    pjalive21 said:

    Taxes:

    According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to an 11 percent higher GDP over the long term provided that the tax cut could be appropriately financed.
    The plan would also lead to a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs.
    The plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.

    im happy with that......

    Wow, you're happy you found something on the internet that confirms your previously formed belief.
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited November 2016
    Go Beavers said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Taxes:

    According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to an 11 percent higher GDP over the long term provided that the tax cut could be appropriately financed.
    The plan would also lead to a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs.
    The plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.

    im happy with that......

    Wow, you're happy you found something on the internet that confirms your previously formed belief.
    he asked me from the links above to support what those who voted for Trump liked?

    who pisses in your cheerios on a daily basis? you can't seriously be this angry all the time :lol:
  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited November 2016
    Go Beavers said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Taxes:

    According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to an 11 percent higher GDP over the long term provided that the tax cut could be appropriately financed.
    The plan would also lead to a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs.
    The plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.

    im happy with that......

    Wow, you're happy you found something on the internet that confirms your previously formed belief.
    C'mon let's keep it to the ideas. It seems to be sourced from the same group as the OP (edit - found it). Let's stay on point. What is Donald's plan to fund it?
    Post edited by WhatYouTaughtMe on
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited November 2016
    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    Go Beavers said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Taxes:

    According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to an 11 percent higher GDP over the long term provided that the tax cut could be appropriately financed.
    The plan would also lead to a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs.
    The plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.

    im happy with that......

    Wow, you're happy you found something on the internet that confirms your previously formed belief.
    C'mon let's keep it to the ideas. It seems to be sourced from the same group as the OP (I think, link would help). Let's stay on point. What is Donald's plan to fund it?
    Its going to be hard...people are going to have to get used to the government not funding everything outside of the military, social security, medicare, and medicaid

    i eventually think it will get tweaked once more analyst get involved but im not a numbers cruncher nor will I try and act like one


    http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2016/11/10/trumps-campaign-rhetoric-may-have-been-populist-but-his-tax-plan-isnt/#33f3155c62de
    Post edited by pjalive21 on
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    How is America going to fund THE WALL? I'm interested in concrete answers.
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited November 2016
    dignin said:

    How is America going to fund THE WALL? I'm interested in concrete answers.

    put it in the national security/military budget and build the damn thing

    pay for it with Monopoly money
    Post edited by pjalive21 on
  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    pjalive21 said:

    dignin said:

    How is America going to fund THE WALL? I'm interested in concrete answers.

    put it in the national security/military budget and build the damn thing

    pay for it with Monopoly money
    Sound economic plan.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    pjalive21 said:

    dignin said:

    How is America going to fund THE WALL? I'm interested in concrete answers.

    put it in the national security/military budget and build the damn thing

    pay for it with Monopoly money
    Well, Trump does plan to spend more money to make America's military great again. Curious to see where he pulls those funds from too. Lot's of spending, considering all those tax cuts. But he is a "successful" business man. I'm sure he can make it work.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    pjalive21 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Taxes:

    According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to an 11 percent higher GDP over the long term provided that the tax cut could be appropriately financed.
    The plan would also lead to a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs.
    The plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.

    im happy with that......

    Wow, you're happy you found something on the internet that confirms your previously formed belief.
    he asked me from the links above to support what those who voted for Trump liked?

    who pisses in your cheerios on a daily basis? you can't seriously be this angry all the time :lol:
    I'm actually angry very little of the time. It's debating. What's funny is that people interpret my comments as angry.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    He's been pretty clear he intends to drive up the deficit, right? He's stated that explicitly. Easy money.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    Any tax plan that benefits the top 1% by more then 10x the middle class isn't exactly helping, but since most Trump supporters will notice some sort of increase that doesn't matter I guess.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    That'll all trickle down, right?
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    Go Beavers said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Taxes:

    According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to an 11 percent higher GDP over the long term provided that the tax cut could be appropriately financed.
    The plan would also lead to a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs.
    The plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.

    im happy with that......

    Wow, you're happy you found something on the internet that confirms your previously formed belief.
    he asked me from the links above to support what those who voted for Trump liked?

    who pisses in your cheerios on a daily basis? you can't seriously be this angry all the time :lol:
    I'm actually angry very little of the time. It's debating. What's funny is that people interpret my comments as angry.
    im messing with ya i actually understand your personality as most my friends respond like you, i actually appreciate it to be honest...anyway we got sidetracked there
  • whoanelly15
    whoanelly15 Posts: 742
    pjalive21 said:

    Taxes:
    The plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.

    im happy with that......

    The only reason you should be happy with that is if you're in that top 1%. No reasonable mind can argue that they should see a higher increase in after-tax income than those living below the poverty line. The appropriated percentages actually go down, down, down from higher to middle to lower classes. This is utterly backwards and is a big part of why our political system and economy are so broken. We have allowed the super-rich to stand on our heads for so long that they have LITERALLY all of the power and influence. It was probably already too late, but putting Trump in power is pretty much a nail in the casket.
    dignin said:

    pjalive21 said:

    dignin said:


    Well, Trump does plan to spend more money to make America's military great again. Curious to see where he pulls those funds from too. Lot's of spending, considering all those tax cuts. But he is a "successful" business man. I'm sure he can make it work.

    Who has ever said that our military isn't great?! Stretched too thin? Almost certainly, but that's another issue. Under-funded? I'm not buying it.
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    tbergs said:

    Any tax plan that benefits the top 1% by more then 10x the middle class isn't exactly helping, but since most Trump supporters will notice some sort of increase that doesn't matter I guess.

    tbergs said:

    Any tax plan that benefits the top 1% by more then 10x the middle class isn't exactly helping, but since most Trump supporters will notice some sort of increase that doesn't matter I guess.

    so making less than 50,000 a year and paying 10% in taxes in benefiting the top 1%?
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    pjalive21 said:

    tbergs said:

    Any tax plan that benefits the top 1% by more then 10x the middle class isn't exactly helping, but since most Trump supporters will notice some sort of increase that doesn't matter I guess.

    tbergs said:

    Any tax plan that benefits the top 1% by more then 10x the middle class isn't exactly helping, but since most Trump supporters will notice some sort of increase that doesn't matter I guess.

    so making less than 50,000 a year and paying 10% in taxes in benefiting the top 1%?
    It's be easier just to read in to more than me explain. Forbes and NPR break it down pretty well.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BH304897
    BH304897 Posts: 137
    In a way you do have to admit that it's some what humorous that Clinton as well as most of the other "Liberal Elites" will be given a tax cut while the disenfranchised will receive theirs in the form of a lower minimum wage, but at least they bucked the system.
  • BH304897
    BH304897 Posts: 137
    As for the other stuff

    The environment is going to take a hit, no if's and's or but's about it. Hopefully other countries can overlook trump but their not going to if it gives us any advantage in the economy thus we'll all suffer (tragedy of the commons).

    As for guns, something tells me that even with the secret service his thoughts about easy access might be changing with his new job.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    On the topic of military spending.

    President Trump Is Likely To Boost U.S. Military Spending By $500 Billion To $1 Trillion

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/charlestiefer/2016/11/09/president-trump-is-likely-to-boost-u-s-military-spending-by-500-billion-to-1-trillion/#40305a564108
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    tbergs said:

    pjalive21 said:

    tbergs said:

    Any tax plan that benefits the top 1% by more then 10x the middle class isn't exactly helping, but since most Trump supporters will notice some sort of increase that doesn't matter I guess.

    tbergs said:

    Any tax plan that benefits the top 1% by more then 10x the middle class isn't exactly helping, but since most Trump supporters will notice some sort of increase that doesn't matter I guess.

    so making less than 50,000 a year and paying 10% in taxes in benefiting the top 1%?
    It's be easier just to read in to more than me explain. Forbes and NPR break it down pretty well.
    Forbes did a great job i will agree with you there...there are some red flags in his tax proposal

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