Vigilante Justice ?

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David Carlson was fishing with a pal when a bearded man in shorts popped out of the woods and introduced himself. “Daniel” said he was the caretaker of a vacant cabin next to Carlson’s home in upstate Sparrowbush, N.Y. Carlson, a carpenter, befriended the stranger, giving him odd jobs in exchange for fresh eggs and his wife’s homemade bread.

While drinking beer beside a bonfire one night, “Daniel” suddenly confided that his real first name was Norris — and that he was wanted for having sex with a 14-year-old girl in Ramapo, N.Y. He grumbled that the charges were unfair because the girl had consented.

“That little bitch,” Carlson played along, but he was alarmed.

The confession set off a chain of events that terrified the rural mountainside community and led to not one, but three bungled attempts by law enforcement to arrest the fugitive. It ended with Carlson blasting Norris Acosta Sanchez, a 35-year-old CUNY graduate, in the face with a 12-gauge shotgun.

The District Attorney called it vigilante justice, saying Carlson “chose to take the law into his own hands,” killing an unarmed man without provocation. Carlson says he was fighting for his life. In a dangerous bind, he tried to help catch a desperate criminal after cops let him escape.

“He was threatening me,” Carlson told a 911 operator after the killing. “The guy you were chasing yesterday.”

Click here for the story in the New York Post


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JC29856

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting#Perpetrator

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great read !

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Go Beavers

One gets shot in the face, and another is the Republican nominee. Go figure.

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Go Beavers said:

One gets shot in the face, and another is the Republican nominee. Go figure.

and pedophile to boot ! or I mean she consented....right ?

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http://usherald.com/biker-gangs-are-attacking-muslim-refugees-after-multiple-rape-in-the-country/

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g under p

So where's the link to this story so I can possibly read it?

Peace

Gern Blansten

yeah I googled vigalinte and came up short

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Daniel Goetz, but my question is, do you guy's think there is ever a circumstance that would call for vigilante justice ? I'm just curious what you all think.

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g under p said:

So where's the link to this story so I can possibly read it?

Peace

sorry I can't remember but look up Goetz.

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http://nypost.com/2016/10/17/man-gets-20-years-for-shooting-at-george-zimmerman/

there seems to be plenty to go around LOL !

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hedonist

I am a huge fan of Dexter (both the series and the character) - it feeds my fantasy of deserved retribution on both a personal and extended level.

Would I actually do it myself?

Not sure. I'd like to think no, but if I'm being honest...maybe. Perhaps a matter of circumstance.

The initial story itself up there, too many holes and it's unclear what actually went down. Could just be lots of drinking, shit-talking, and then things going south. More details available, GF?

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g under p said:

So where's the link to this story so I can possibly read it?

Peace

http://nypost.com/2016/10/15/this-man-might-go-to-jail-for-killing-a-fugitive/

Go Beavers

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Go Beavers said:

One gets shot in the face, and another is the Republican nominee. Go figure.

and pedophile to boot ! or I mean she consented....right ?

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Go Beavers said:

One gets shot in the face, and another is the Republican nominee. Go figure.

and pedophile to boot ! or I mean she consented....right ?

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Good questions for Mr. Trump.

chadwick

nothing wrong with putting a pedophile down. vigilante justice is a bullshit term anyhow, it seems to bring up negative imagery for many

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chadwick said:

nothing wrong with putting a pedophile down. vigilante justice is a bullshit term anyhow, it seems to bring up negative imagery for many

agreed.

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InHiding80

I thought republicans were ok with vigilantes and the 2nd amendment. Oh, I forgot. It only applies to white repulbican males.

You sure love to have things both ways.

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hedonist said:

I am a huge fan of Dexter (both the series and the character) - it feeds my fantasy of deserved retribution on both a personal and extended level.

Would I actually do it myself?

Not sure. I'd like to think no, but if I'm being honest...maybe. Perhaps a matter of circumstance.

The initial story itself up there, too many holes and it's unclear what actually went down. Could just be lots of drinking, shit-talking, and then things going south. More details available, GF?

Florida is perfect. Lots of crazy shit there in real life. Zimmerman would have no chance. Most of it is actually filmed in Long Beach, though. I recognize some of the locations from being a lifelong SoCal resident like the 710 freeway south of the 405.

Started out great but jumped the shark after season 4 and I stopped a few episodes into season 7.

Gern Blansten

Is this really a case of vigilante justice though? Sounds like the guy shot him in self defense.

chadwick

technically more ppl should put their phones down, (no need in calling 911 everyday) pick up & throw bags o' glass at bad guys. if you do not have a bag o' glass, your pal dan aykroyd would be happy to help you out with the bag o' glass bit. thank you. that is all

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chadwick said:

technically more ppl should put their phones down, (no need in calling 911 everyday) pick up & throw bags o' glass at bad guys. if you do not have a bag o' glass, your pal dan aykroyd would be happy to help you out with the bag o' glass bit. thank you. that is all

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chadwick

yes johnny switchblade could catch a few bad characters. maybe general tron's secret police confession kit could come in handy.

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InHiding80 said:

I thought republicans were ok with vigilantes and the 2nd amendment. Oh, I forgot. It only applies to white repulbican males.

You sure love to have things both ways.

what both ways ?

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Kat

Godfather, I think we have to let our justice system work. It has problems but if we don't all support the rule of law, we undermine our own system. I don't think it's a bad system but as with anything, there's room for improvement. I don't think it's a good idea to support vigilante justice.

rgambs

Yeah, seriously.
Even with full due process and a fair trial, people are wrongfully convicted of crimes like rape every single day in America.
If we start allowing Joe SixPack, who has more guns than teeth, to dole out justice as he sees fit we will be in a sad situation, particularly for minorities.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

I think of the movie Mystic River whenever this topic comes up.

There are cases where I don't have a problem with it. For example, I was okay with the guy from Texas (?) that killed that guy when he caught him molesting his daughter. He beat him to death with his fists and who could blame him? Seeing that would send any father over the edge... and further... it was a case of self defence (father defending the daughter).

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

I think of the movie Mystic River whenever this topic comes up.

There are cases where I don't have a problem with it. For example, I was okay with the guy from Texas (?) that killed that guy when he caught him molesting his daughter. He beat him to death with his fists and who could blame him? Seeing that would send any father over the edge... and further... it was a case of self defence (father defending the daughter).

Sure, crime of passion kind of thing I can understand. But going around hunting down who you think committed crimes? No way Jose. There is just too much room for killing the wrong person and way too much room for accidents. I can't believe anyone would support such an idea as vigilantism. It puts innocent people in real danger.

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Kat said:

Godfather, I think we have to let our justice system work. It has problems but if we don't all support the rule of law, we undermine our own system. I don't think it's a bad system but as with anything, there's room for improvement. I don't think it's a good idea to support vigilante justice.

I agree, but unfortunately there are people who are not willing to trust the system anymore.

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HughFreakingDillon

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Kat said:

Godfather, I think we have to let our justice system work. It has problems but if we don't all support the rule of law, we undermine our own system. I don't think it's a bad system but as with anything, there's room for improvement. I don't think it's a good idea to support vigilante justice.

I agree, but unfortunately there are people who are not willing to trust the system anymore.

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so you agree with chadwick putting down a pedophile without due process, and then agree with kat about due process.

DarthMaeglin

In the late 90s there was a serial rapist operating in my neighbourhood. By chance, there was a strong resemblance between myself and the composite sketch that was released to the public, further exacerbated by the fact my shift ended at midnight, leaving me walking home late at night through areas that were being watched by the police. Understandably so, I was stopped and questioned on 3 occasions, however some of the looks I would get from people on the street were uncomfortable to say the least, and I, for one, am glad that vigilante justice is frowned on for the most part, and must be prosecuted when it occurs. Beyond self-defence (or defence of others as mentioned above), there are no mitigating circumstances in our society that justify taking the law into one's own hands.

Lucky for me, when I was surrounded by 5-8 police on one occasion, they didn't find the chunk of hash in my pocket, lol (although it occurred to me they may have caught it, but didn't want to waste their time...my eyes were pretty red in that moment, lol).

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DarthMaeglin said:

In the late 90s there was a serial rapist operating in my neighbourhood. By chance, there was a strong resemblance between myself and the composite sketch that was released to the public, further exacerbated by the fact my shift ended at midnight, leaving me walking home late at night through areas that were being watched by the police. Understandably so, I was stopped and questioned on 3 occasions, however some of the looks I would get from people on the street were uncomfortable to say the least, and I, for one, am glad that vigilante justice is frowned on for the most part, and must be prosecuted when it occurs. Beyond self-defence (or defence of others as mentioned above), there are no mitigating circumstances in our society that justify taking the law into one's own hands.

Lucky for me, when I was surrounded by 5-8 police on one occasion, they didn't find the chunk of hash in my pocket, lol (although it occurred to me they may have caught it, but didn't want to waste their time...my eyes were pretty red in that moment, lol).

Great story!