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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    benjs said:

    mace1229 said:

    so, if the american people are so tired of the status quo of garbage candidates, why did they nominate two? as ridiculous a process as the primaries may be, your country gets to choose your representatives to run. canada does not. for better or worse.

    Because a large portion of the general population is clueless and stupid. The number of people who cant even name the current vice president would probably shock most.
    But who do you blame then? The media/government/corporations for taking advantage of a blissfully ignorant populace, or the blissfully ignorant populace themselves? No one forces the Average Joe/Joanne to live in a state of mis- or non-education: can we not propel our society away from that?
    Ultimately the populace but they are too stupid to see through the fog of right wing media.

    The internet and right wing bullshit is the issue. How to stop it? Might be impossible.

    I have a client that is about 80 years old....she is very proud of the fact that she listens to Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Alex Jones, etc. all fucking day. She has told me that if I don't listen to them I "don't know what is going on." As a former dittohead I find that fucking frightening.

    This lady is so anti-government it's hard to get over how she reconciles that with the fact that she pays most of her bills with social security money and is on medicare. I don't have the heart to explain that contradiction to her.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    benjs said:

    mace1229 said:

    so, if the american people are so tired of the status quo of garbage candidates, why did they nominate two? as ridiculous a process as the primaries may be, your country gets to choose your representatives to run. canada does not. for better or worse.

    Because a large portion of the general population is clueless and stupid. The number of people who cant even name the current vice president would probably shock most.
    But who do you blame then? The media/government/corporations for taking advantage of a blissfully ignorant populace, or the blissfully ignorant populace themselves? No one forces the Average Joe/Joanne to live in a state of mis- or non-education: can we not propel our society away from that?
    Ultimately the populace but they are too stupid to see through the fog of right wing media.

    The internet and right wing bullshit is the issue. How to stop it? Might be impossible.

    I have a client that is about 80 years old....she is very proud of the fact that she listens to Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Alex Jones, etc. all fucking day. She has told me that if I don't listen to them I "don't know what is going on." As a former dittohead I find that fucking frightening.

    This lady is so anti-government it's hard to get over how she reconciles that with the fact that she pays most of her bills with social security money and is on medicare. I don't have the heart to explain that contradiction to her.
    Obama had this to say in 2009... it just perfectly sums up your point...

    “I got a letter the other day from a woman. She said, ‘I don’t want government-run health care. I don’t want socialized medicine. And don’t touch my Medicare.’”
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mrussel1 said:

    benjs said:

    mace1229 said:

    so, if the american people are so tired of the status quo of garbage candidates, why did they nominate two? as ridiculous a process as the primaries may be, your country gets to choose your representatives to run. canada does not. for better or worse.

    Because a large portion of the general population is clueless and stupid. The number of people who cant even name the current vice president would probably shock most.
    But who do you blame then? The media/government/corporations for taking advantage of a blissfully ignorant populace, or the blissfully ignorant populace themselves? No one forces the Average Joe/Joanne to live in a state of mis- or non-education: can we not propel our society away from that?
    Ultimately the populace but they are too stupid to see through the fog of right wing media.

    The internet and right wing bullshit is the issue. How to stop it? Might be impossible.

    I have a client that is about 80 years old....she is very proud of the fact that she listens to Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Alex Jones, etc. all fucking day. She has told me that if I don't listen to them I "don't know what is going on." As a former dittohead I find that fucking frightening.

    This lady is so anti-government it's hard to get over how she reconciles that with the fact that she pays most of her bills with social security money and is on medicare. I don't have the heart to explain that contradiction to her.
    Obama had this to say in 2009... it just perfectly sums up your point...

    “I got a letter the other day from a woman. She said, ‘I don’t want government-run health care. I don’t want socialized medicine. And don’t touch my Medicare.’”
    Crazy....how to get those people to think is the challenge. It's scary.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Free said:

    so, if the american people are so tired of the status quo of garbage candidates, why did they nominate two? as ridiculous a process as the primaries may be, your country gets to choose your representatives to run. canada does not. for better or worse.

    If there was no voter suppression, No superdelegates, no repealing of Obama's move to refuse lobbyist money in elections by DWS and HRC and no rigged primaries, Bernie Sanders would've won.
    In your opinion.
    Millions of votes separated them, that's quite a hurdle.
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    so, if the american people are so tired of the status quo of garbage candidates, why did they nominate two? as ridiculous a process as the primaries may be, your country gets to choose your representatives to run. canada does not. for better or worse.

    If there was no voter suppression, No superdelegates, no repealing of Obama's move to refuse lobbyist money in elections by DWS and HRC and no rigged primaries, Bernie Sanders would've won.
    In your opinion.
    Millions of votes separated them, that's quite a hurdle.
    Superdelegate votes. Do you forget? They were neck and neck and what put her over the top was the majority of superdelegates - bought and paid for by HRC months in advance. Rigged.
  • Bernie lost.
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  • Free
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    ...due to the rigging of the election.

  • Due to Hillary garnering almost 4 million more votes.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    And won a strong majority of the pledged delegates. If there were no SD's, she would have won the night she clinched California. These facts escape some.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    mrussel1 said:

    And won a strong majority of the pledged delegates. If there were no SD's, she would have won the night she clinched California. These facts escape some.

    Do I really need to point this out again. Voter suppression in nearly half of states. Including CA, the one you think she clinched, yet took over a month to count?
    CA, 1 of the 5 last state primary vote in June, taken place the day after AP announced Hillary was the preemptive candidate?
    No, no cheating or rigging there. The combination of voter suppression, SDs, repealing Obama's rule of not allowing big lobbyists from being campaign donars in an effort to get money out of politics? A disgraced DWS forced to step down from the DNC only to be promoted to special campaign manager of HRC? Half-empty high school gymnasiums for Hillary rallies compared to Bernie's tens of millions attending each of his rallies?

    I can go on...
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    This election is rigged, whether Hillarites want to believe it or not.
  • Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    And won a strong majority of the pledged delegates. If there were no SD's, she would have won the night she clinched California. These facts escape some.

    Do I really need to point this out again. Voter suppression in nearly half of states. Including CA, the one you think she clinched, yet took over a month to count?
    CA, 1 of the 5 last state primary vote in June, taken place the day after AP announced Hillary was the preemptive candidate?
    No, no cheating or rigging there. The combination of voter suppression, SDs, repealing Obama's rule of not allowing big lobbyists from being campaign donars in an effort to get money out of politics? A disgraced DWS forced to step down from the DNC only to be promoted to special campaign manager of HRC? Half-empty high school gymnasiums for Hillary rallies compared to Bernie's tens of millions attending each of his rallies?

    I can go on...
    What venue held tens of millions?
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  • Cliffy6745
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    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    And won a strong majority of the pledged delegates. If there were no SD's, she would have won the night she clinched California. These facts escape some.

    Do I really need to point this out again. Voter suppression in nearly half of states. Including CA, the one you think she clinched, yet took over a month to count?
    CA, 1 of the 5 last state primary vote in June, taken place the day after AP announced Hillary was the preemptive candidate?
    No, no cheating or rigging there. The combination of voter suppression, SDs, repealing Obama's rule of not allowing big lobbyists from being campaign donars in an effort to get money out of politics? A disgraced DWS forced to step down from the DNC only to be promoted to special campaign manager of HRC? Half-empty high school gymnasiums for Hillary rallies compared to Bernie's tens of millions attending each of his rallies?

    I can go on...
    What venue held tens of millions?
    That's a big building!
  • Please define "voter suppression."
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  • Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    And won a strong majority of the pledged delegates. If there were no SD's, she would have won the night she clinched California. These facts escape some.

    Do I really need to point this out again. Voter suppression in nearly half of states. Including CA, the one you think she clinched, yet took over a month to count?
    CA, 1 of the 5 last state primary vote in June, taken place the day after AP announced Hillary was the preemptive candidate?
    No, no cheating or rigging there. The combination of voter suppression, SDs, repealing Obama's rule of not allowing big lobbyists from being campaign donars in an effort to get money out of politics? A disgraced DWS forced to step down from the DNC only to be promoted to special campaign manager of HRC? Half-empty high school gymnasiums for Hillary rallies compared to Bernie's tens of millions attending each of his rallies?

    I can go on...
    What venue held tens of millions?
    Maybe this will help Free understand:

    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/california

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  • Free
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    edited October 2016

    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    And won a strong majority of the pledged delegates. If there were no SD's, she would have won the night she clinched California. These facts escape some.

    Do I really need to point this out again. Voter suppression in nearly half of states. Including CA, the one you think she clinched, yet took over a month to count?
    CA, 1 of the 5 last state primary vote in June, taken place the day after AP announced Hillary was the preemptive candidate?
    No, no cheating or rigging there. The combination of voter suppression, SDs, repealing Obama's rule of not allowing big lobbyists from being campaign donars in an effort to get money out of politics? A disgraced DWS forced to step down from the DNC only to be promoted to special campaign manager of HRC? Half-empty high school gymnasiums for Hillary rallies compared to Bernie's tens of millions attending each of his rallies?

    I can go on...
    What venue held tens of millions?
    That's a big building!
    Did I say (his rallies) were held in a building? :pensive:
    Post edited by Free on
  • Does a venue have to be a building?
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    And won a strong majority of the pledged delegates. If there were no SD's, she would have won the night she clinched California. These facts escape some.

    Do I really need to point this out again. Voter suppression in nearly half of states. Including CA, the one you think she clinched, yet took over a month to count?
    CA, 1 of the 5 last state primary vote in June, taken place the day after AP announced Hillary was the preemptive candidate?
    No, no cheating or rigging there. The combination of voter suppression, SDs, repealing Obama's rule of not allowing big lobbyists from being campaign donars in an effort to get money out of politics? A disgraced DWS forced to step down from the DNC only to be promoted to special campaign manager of HRC? Half-empty high school gymnasiums for Hillary rallies compared to Bernie's tens of millions attending each of his rallies?

    I can go on...
    What venue held tens of millions?
    The Voter Suppression Arena outside Springfield.
    The Rigged Coliseum outside Columbus
    The Hillary Memorial Amphitheater outside the city.
    They all held
    Bernie's tens of millions
  • Free said:

    :hushed:

    Quack, quack, quack, quack! QUACK!
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