A thread about Bill Maher: The Good, The Bad, and The UGLY!

DE4173

Cray-ZEE to me that people can't even talk to people that aren't members of their party, much less cut family members out of their lives and kids/grandkids lives.

Ya'll do ya'll though. 🤷‍♂️

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

None of this relates to my thread of nine years ago or what I think today.  Come on people, there should be a new thread.

Mods generally speaking tend to like using older threads instead of cluttering with new ones. There was no attempt on my part to correlate his free speech with your opinion here.

I've actually experienced the opposite, that they prefer new threads as opposed to resurrecting old ones. 

HughFreakingDillon

DE4173 said:

Cray-ZEE to me that people can't even talk to people that aren't members of their party, much less cut family members out of their lives and kids/grandkids lives.

Ya'll do ya'll though. 🤷‍♂️

it usually completely depends on each situation. Sometimes the magas in their lives have gone totally down the rabbit hole and it's their complete identity and can't talk about anything else. They love to "trigger" others with their "did you hear what Trump said today? I LOVE IT! give it to dem libruls!". People who are insufferable are difficult to be around, no matter the reason. 

HughFreakingDillon

we know the backstory. The right and the left have trouble coming together cuz now it's like asking the oppressed why they don't want to be friends with their oppressors. It's getting really tiring listening to the right moaning about how the left is now somehow making life all about politics when we've had to endure their culture wars the last decade. When we have idiots like KR shooting at Bud Light boxes cuz he's anti-trans. And people in trump's admin laughing at tearing families apart while a guy rots in a 3rd world prison. 

yeah, let's 'agree to disagree'. 

DE4173

It's concerning when something awful happens to someone associated with party X and then some people associated with party Y take joy in it.

Then something awful happens to someone associated with party Y and now some people associated with party X feel the need to take joy it as it was done to them.

We hear the "what about X/Y person/topic?", "now do X/Y person/topic..." and "where were you when..?"

Over and over again.

Nothing gets accomplished and we are just fighting amongst ourselves.

I truly believe that the majority of X & Y condemn violence of all kinds, but the vocal minority feel the need to point fingers at others, yet ignore or justify when it is their tribe.

DE4173

And yes, I guess it sucks to see another person normalize Trump. From Maher saying all that to when Biden stated, "Welcome Home" prior to the inauguration after all that was said during the campaigns. 

Life is too short to spend it with people you don't enjoy being around, but if it's because they voted one way or another or drive a certain car 😉, I just don't understand being away from family/friends etc

gimmesometruth27

DE4173 said:

It's concerning when something awful happens to someone associated with party X and then some people associated with party Y take joy in it.

Then something awful happens to someone associated with party Y and now some people associated with party X feel the need to take joy it as it was done to them.

We hear the "what about X/Y person/topic?", "now do X/Y person/topic..." and "where were you when..?"

Over and over again.

Nothing gets accomplished and we are just fighting amongst ourselves.

I truly believe that the majority of X & Y condemn violence of all kinds, but the vocal minority feel the need to point fingers at others, yet ignore or justify when it is their tribe.

you mean like when paul pelosi had his head smashed in with a hammer and the gop still makes jokes about it?

that kind of taking joy in it?

or when shapiro's house just got burnt down, where they blame the victim because of the policies of his government?

DE4173

gimmesometruth27 said:

DE4173 said:

It's concerning when something awful happens to someone associated with party X and then some people associated with party Y take joy in it.

Then something awful happens to someone associated with party Y and now some people associated with party X feel the need to take joy it as it was done to them.

We hear the "what about X/Y person/topic?", "now do X/Y person/topic..." and "where were you when..?"

Over and over again.

Nothing gets accomplished and we are just fighting amongst ourselves.

I truly believe that the majority of X & Y condemn violence of all kinds, but the vocal minority feel the need to point fingers at others, yet ignore or justify when it is their tribe.

you mean like when paul pelosi had his head smashed in with a hammer and the gop still makes jokes about it?

that kind of taking joy in it?

or when shapiro's house just got burnt down, where they blame the victim because of the policies of his government?

Yes, exactly that.

DE4173

Paul Pelosi, Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Whitmer, Steve Scalise, Gabby Giffords and list goes on.

We can disagree without hating each other.

HughFreakingDillon

DE4173

Great read. Thanks for sharing!

brianlux

Lerxst1992 said:

brianlux said:

None of this relates to my thread of nine years ago or what I think today.  Come on people, there should be a new thread.

Mods generally speaking tend to like using older threads instead of cluttering with new ones. There was no attempt on my part to correlate his free speech with your opinion here.

Hey, not problem!  I'll update the thread name.

brianlux

P.S.  I still like some aspects of the guy.  He's a lot like me:  part lovable, part despicable. 

josevolution

Screw that my side of the family the Chilean side voted for this garbage I let them know my disappointment in them! I keep it cordial only talk to them about my elderly father’s well being and medical appointments that’s about it, I’m an immigrant I will never vote for anyone who treats good intended folks like me as if we’re disposable 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽that! 

dignin

Gern Blansten said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJ_Soul said:

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

I saw Bill's monologue about his absolutely delightful dinner with Trump on YouTube.... I think they way people, now including Bill, characterize Trump as anything other than a disgusting, megalomaniacal tyrant just because he was pleasant in a social setting is revolting, and I have zero respect for anyone who does so. Normalizing Trump is straight up dangerous, especially on a huge stage.

I'm not exactly sure what Bill Maher's point was. He discovered that Trump can act sane when the ramifications are nil, but otherwise - can't or won't. How should this be comforting to anyone?

Totally. The whole spiel really irritated me.

Bill said he was just going to give his interpretation and that we should interpret it however we felt.

His main point was that he didn't see any of the psychotic dear leader that we see daily. In private he was relatively normal, he took criticism from him without lashing out, he didn't go on and on about Biden's age, his greatness, etc. He had no idea that he had reversed some Obama era directives that he was complaining about in the meeting.

I watched it the other day as well. I mean, it was what we already knew about him. The campaign/politician Trump is an exaggerated caricature playing to the base of sycophants with divisive rhetoric and the private Trump is a schmoozer looking for attention. If nothing else, it just confirms what a piece of shit he is who will do whatever it takes to make money and stomp on those who get in his way. Bill was a useful idiot for a night, congrats I guess?

I agree that it confirms that trump is a complete piece of shit. To me that was the point.

If that was the point he should have made that more clear. He didn't.

I think tbergs useful idiot comment is closer to the truth.

Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The tell is that Bill felt “more comfortable” and found COOTWH to be easier to be around than both Hillary and Obama. Bill is out of his league with people who are smarter and have higher intellects than his. Of course he’s “more comfortable” around that idiot COOTWH. I view the dinner as a lame attempt to stay relevant.

On a scale from 1 -10 of relevance or importance, it rates about a .5.

The right runs to bullying and the left runs to condescension. Not sure which is worse.

Merkin Baller

Gern Blansten said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJ_Soul said:

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

I saw Bill's monologue about his absolutely delightful dinner with Trump on YouTube.... I think they way people, now including Bill, characterize Trump as anything other than a disgusting, megalomaniacal tyrant just because he was pleasant in a social setting is revolting, and I have zero respect for anyone who does so. Normalizing Trump is straight up dangerous, especially on a huge stage.

I'm not exactly sure what Bill Maher's point was. He discovered that Trump can act sane when the ramifications are nil, but otherwise - can't or won't. How should this be comforting to anyone?

Totally. The whole spiel really irritated me.

Bill said he was just going to give his interpretation and that we should interpret it however we felt.

His main point was that he didn't see any of the psychotic dear leader that we see daily. In private he was relatively normal, he took criticism from him without lashing out, he didn't go on and on about Biden's age, his greatness, etc. He had no idea that he had reversed some Obama era directives that he was complaining about in the meeting.

I watched it the other day as well. I mean, it was what we already knew about him. The campaign/politician Trump is an exaggerated caricature playing to the base of sycophants with divisive rhetoric and the private Trump is a schmoozer looking for attention. If nothing else, it just confirms what a piece of shit he is who will do whatever it takes to make money and stomp on those who get in his way. Bill was a useful idiot for a night, congrats I guess?

I just don't see it that way. Bill is doing the same thing that Newsom did by meeting with the "enemy"

I agree that it confirms that trump is a complete piece of shit. To me that was the point.

I didn't get that at all from the segment... my takeaway after watching it was just how normal and down to earth trump is behind the scenes.

josevolution

I’m sure most dictators type are really nice normal people behind the scenes 

DE4173

Tearing families apart on this side of the border as well. 😭

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

That’s easy to say for those that live in foreign countries. I’ve had friends family coworkers join the cult. It’s part of everyday life. It’s everywhere. Until you live it 247, you have no idea.

And don’t dismiss for a second woke politics and choosing favorites based on bias did not influence the Harris loss.


and just because the administration is wrong about the El Salvador deportations, does not make them wrong regarding the bias perceived at the college protests.