What Members of Pearl Jam Will Be Inducted Into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    JH6056 said:

    Come to think of it, if I'm remembering correctly, the band can pay for as many band members as they want to attend. But the HOF only "invites" (i.e. doesn't charge) original members, usually measured by who played on the 1st album. It does seem arbitrary, especially if a band member like Matt Cameron has been in the band for so many years. But I've heard about MANY bands complaining of this, so I know it's a weird rule they have about "original lineup". But PJ can afford to invite all their drummers. Won't be surprised if they do, will be more surprised if they don't.

    It's not a rule about original lineup (see: nirvana). I think it's just most "significant" lineup. But as far as I know there is no hard and fast rule. It's just whatever guys or gals are deemed by someone to have contributed significantly to the band. If that's the case, I could see it being Dave a, jack, and matt.

    And Boom isn't a member of the band so I don't see him getting in
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,152
    I would be very surprised if Boom is inducted.
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  • SpokenSpoken Posts: 1,464
    No offense, if u didn't read the pj20 book yet, you should. It has all the history and then some...
  • pjpjpaulpjpjpaul Posts: 1,673
    Stone, Jeff, Mike, Eddie, Matt, Dave A, Jack, Dave K, Boom. I don't see why all of these guys shouldn't be Inducted. Each contributed a great deal to the success of the band I one way or another.
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  • Gut says no Dave K and no Jack I. I think Jack should be there, personally (obv band wouldn't exist without him), but he didn't last long as the actual drummer. Matt essentially held the band together and Dave A played a large part in the sound so many of us fell in love with. I can't hear even flow without doing those high hat fills.
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Posts: 1,771
    igotid88 said:

    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album

    Dave K was the original drummer (unless you count the demos which Matt Cameron played on) and if not for personal issues would probably still be the drummer.
    I know who Dave K is!!! Not the point. I also know he wasn't a session drummer. My point was he did the album and played a handful of live shows. No way he's getting in anyway. The Hall will pick either Dave A or Matt, possibly both, no others.

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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Posts: 1,771
    edited August 2016
    I still don't understand why Bruce Springsteen was inducted like 15 years before the E Street Band. I know he did some solo stuff but really?? They didn't let Tom Petty in without the Heartbreakers.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,141
    Boom has a better chance of getting inducted with the band than any Pearl Jam drummer not named Matt Cameron. (Which is probably close to nil for all parties concerned)

    Chad Canning got a shout out & big ups for his contributions to the band from Dave Grohl in his RRHOF acceptance speech, but that was the extent of their acknowledgement. He was not on stage, I don't think he was mentioned otherwise, and he definitely wasn't inducted.
  • deftonesdeftones Posts: 2,444
    I hope that they all get in and I really hope that they are not leaving out Dave A.
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  • JH6056JH6056 Posts: 2,427
    NewJPage said:

    JH6056 said:

    Come to think of it, if I'm remembering correctly, the band can pay for as many band members as they want to attend. But the HOF only "invites" (i.e. doesn't charge) original members, usually measured by who played on the 1st album. It does seem arbitrary, especially if a band member like Matt Cameron has been in the band for so many years. But I've heard about MANY bands complaining of this, so I know it's a weird rule they have about "original lineup". But PJ can afford to invite all their drummers. Won't be surprised if they do, will be more surprised if they don't.

    It's not a rule about original lineup (see: nirvana). I think it's just most "significant" lineup. But as far as I know there is no hard and fast rule. It's just whatever guys or gals are deemed by someone to have contributed significantly to the band. If that's the case, I could see it being Dave a, jack, and matt.

    And Boom isn't a member of the band so I don't see him getting in
    What's your source on it being "most significant lineup"? My source on original line-up is hearing/reading about past inductees complaining about the original lineup rule and it actually leaving out the most significant lineup at times. Maybe the complaining I'm thinking of was more about one lineup vs. another, but I could swear there were complaints that the first __________ in the band was NOT the most significant ___________ in the band.

    Who knows, I guess we'll find out before the year is over!
  • MickeyMouseMickeyMouse Posts: 1,055

    Matt Cameron's been with them for 18 years now, which is almost 75% of the band's career. It will be him & the 4 main guys, sorry Boom.

    The other drummers will get a shout out from someone in the band during the acceptance speech, but that will be the extent of it IMO.

    Agreed. The HOF isn't going to induct all the drummers just because they played on X record. Look at KISS and all the members who have been in the band for a significant amount of time and still didn't get in. It'll be the current lineup minus Boom.
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  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    mfc2006 said:

    hope they all get in

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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    JH6056 said:

    NewJPage said:

    JH6056 said:

    Come to think of it, if I'm remembering correctly, the band can pay for as many band members as they want to attend. But the HOF only "invites" (i.e. doesn't charge) original members, usually measured by who played on the 1st album. It does seem arbitrary, especially if a band member like Matt Cameron has been in the band for so many years. But I've heard about MANY bands complaining of this, so I know it's a weird rule they have about "original lineup". But PJ can afford to invite all their drummers. Won't be surprised if they do, will be more surprised if they don't.

    It's not a rule about original lineup (see: nirvana). I think it's just most "significant" lineup. But as far as I know there is no hard and fast rule. It's just whatever guys or gals are deemed by someone to have contributed significantly to the band. If that's the case, I could see it being Dave a, jack, and matt.

    And Boom isn't a member of the band so I don't see him getting in
    What's your source on it being "most significant lineup"? My source on original line-up is hearing/reading about past inductees complaining about the original lineup rule and it actually leaving out the most significant lineup at times. Maybe the complaining I'm thinking of was more about one lineup vs. another, but I could swear there were complaints that the first __________ in the band was NOT the most significant ___________ in the band.

    Who knows, I guess we'll find out before the year is over!
    I don't have a source, I've just noticed bands that have been induced with members other than original. Note nirvana, as I mentioned above, Fleetwood Mac, the Beatles, etc
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,141
    NewJPage said:

    JH6056 said:

    NewJPage said:

    JH6056 said:

    Come to think of it, if I'm remembering correctly, the band can pay for as many band members as they want to attend. But the HOF only "invites" (i.e. doesn't charge) original members, usually measured by who played on the 1st album. It does seem arbitrary, especially if a band member like Matt Cameron has been in the band for so many years. But I've heard about MANY bands complaining of this, so I know it's a weird rule they have about "original lineup". But PJ can afford to invite all their drummers. Won't be surprised if they do, will be more surprised if they don't.

    It's not a rule about original lineup (see: nirvana). I think it's just most "significant" lineup. But as far as I know there is no hard and fast rule. It's just whatever guys or gals are deemed by someone to have contributed significantly to the band. If that's the case, I could see it being Dave a, jack, and matt.

    And Boom isn't a member of the band so I don't see him getting in
    What's your source on it being "most significant lineup"? My source on original line-up is hearing/reading about past inductees complaining about the original lineup rule and it actually leaving out the most significant lineup at times. Maybe the complaining I'm thinking of was more about one lineup vs. another, but I could swear there were complaints that the first __________ in the band was NOT the most significant ___________ in the band.

    Who knows, I guess we'll find out before the year is over!
    I don't have a source, I've just noticed bands that have been induced with members other than original. Note nirvana, as I mentioned above, Fleetwood Mac, the Beatles, etc
    I think it may be a case by case basis.

    If I recall correctly (I invite anyone to correct me, I'm going off memory) I remember there being a problem when Blondie was inducted.

    The original lineup was inducted, but Debbie Harry insisted that the active members of Blondie perform at the ceremony, not the original lineup.

    I think the original members were pissy about not being allowed to perform, but Harry didn't care as they hadn't been in the band in quite some time.

    Point being, I feel like the RRHOF makes it up as they go along.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,803
    edited August 2016
    It's gonna be this lineup sans Boom.

    They will acknowledge all their drummers and Boom in their speech I'm sure.
  • mikerlmikerl Posts: 580
    Kiss has memmbers that were around longer than Ace and Peter Chris. But they inducted Ace and Peter because no one gives a shit about the kiss records that came after them.

    I think Matt will be inducted with them, but not because of how long he has been there.

    If Dave A isn't with the band that day, it will be sad. He was a huge part of the sound when they were the biggest band in the world, and they never reached that level of commercial success without him. Quite frankly, although he isnt on the album, I associate the Ten era with him. He toured extensively on that record, and took all those songs to the next level.
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  • Mikey DMikey D Posts: 9
    Hopefully it's everyone who contributed to their success, similar to when Metallica was inducted with the core group (Lars, Kirk & James) as well as Cliff Burton, Jason Newsted and Robert Trujillo.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,813

    I still don't understand why Bruce Springsteen was inducted like 15 years before the E Street Band. I know he did some solo stuff but really?? They didn't let Tom Petty in without the Heartbreakers.

    I think Bruce recorded his first album not using the E Street band name. And Tom Petty was eligible as a solo artist last year.
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  • All I know is that Dave A will not be in the room when they accept the award (using the PJ20 doc as a reference). And I bet he won't be invited to play with them or anything.

    And that sucks.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309

    All I know is that Dave A will not be in the room when they accept the award (using the PJ20 doc as a reference). And I bet he won't be invited to play with them or anything.

    And that sucks.

    He's barely mentioned, but then again, Jack and Dave K are barely mentioned as well. PJ has no say in who is inducted. If Dave A is not inducted, then it is up to the band who it invites. The fact that gave Dave a shout out recently gives me hope that they can use this as a way to celebrate all who contributed to the band.
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  • mrpink90mrpink90 Posts: 415
    edited August 2016
    igotid88 said:

    I still don't understand why Bruce Springsteen was inducted like 15 years before the E Street Band. I know he did some solo stuff but really?? They didn't let Tom Petty in without the Heartbreakers.

    I think Bruce recorded his first album not using the E Street band name. And Tom Petty was eligible as a solo artist last year.

    none of bruce's studio albums have the e street band name, theyre all just "bruce springsteen". the first time the e street band were listed on a bruce album was his live box sex that was released in 1986. so 25 years after that release they were eligible. bruce's first album came out in 1973 but again it was just him listed and not the band, so he got inducted in 1999 as a solo artist.

    howard stern asked steve van zandt if he was pissed that bruce got inducted and didnt insist on the e street band being inducted with him, but obviously bruce doesnt have that power.
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  • green_girlgreen_girl Posts: 931
    edited August 2016
    This is all very confusing. The band should have considered this ruckus 25 years ago and in the years since. :-)

    Does the inductee always perform? I wonder if the RRHOF will compile some super-band to play tribute songs. Who would THAT include?
  • KV4053KV4053 Posts: 1,503

    This is all very confusing. The band should have considered this ruckus 25 years ago and in the years since. :-)

    Does the inductee always perform? I wonder if the RRHOF will compile some super-band to play tribute songs. Who would THAT include?

    Nope, inductees do not always perform
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,813

    This is all very confusing. The band should have considered this ruckus 25 years ago and in the years since. :-)

    Does the inductee always perform? I wonder if the RRHOF will compile some super-band to play tribute songs. Who would THAT include?

    Depends. Most of the time they do. Pearl Jam will perform.
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  • EnterThanmanEnterThanman Posts: 1,057

    All I know is that Dave A will not be in the room when they accept the award (using the PJ20 doc as a reference). And I bet he won't be invited to play with them or anything.

    And that sucks.

    I don't know man, Ed actually mentioned him from the stage for I think the second time ever this year (the first being right after he left and the crowd gave jack a less than kind welcome), so seems he could be extending an olive branch. You never know.
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  • EnterThanmanEnterThanman Posts: 1,057
    pjpjpaul said:

    Stone, Jeff, Mike, Eddie, Matt, Dave A, Jack, Dave K, Boom. I don't see why all of these guys shouldn't be Inducted. Each contributed a great deal to the success of the band I one way or another.

    To the best of my memory, Boom has never been listed as a member of Pearl Jam on a record. Not sure how the rules work, but this could possibly exempt him from eligibility.
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  • KV4053KV4053 Posts: 1,503

    All I know is that Dave A will not be in the room when they accept the award (using the PJ20 doc as a reference). And I bet he won't be invited to play with them or anything.

    And that sucks.

    I don't know man, Ed actually mentioned him from the stage for I think the second time ever this year (the first being right after he left and the crowd gave jack a less than kind welcome), so seems he could be extending an olive branch. You never know.
    olive branch. that's the impression i got too.
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  • mattcozmattcoz Posts: 2,202
    They have all been members of the band, they should all be inducted.
  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    edited August 2016
    Its going to be current lineup minus Boom and that's how it should be regardless of previous contributions...they will mention the earlier drummers and give them their dues, but if it wasn't for Matt we wouldn't be having this discussion
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,453
    well it seems its a cant miss type thing.. Who knows what will happen. How does one go? Are there tickets to inductions? Do you have to know someone?

    I hope Dave A gets in t
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