What Members of Pearl Jam Will Be Inducted Into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

wnh1977
wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 651
edited August 2016 in The Porch
So... the band has went through a few drummers. Who is going to get inducted? Obviously, we have the 4 that have been there the whole time (Ed, Jeff, Stone & Mike)... but who else?

When KISS got inducted, Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons were upset that only the original four were inducted, even though they had several other members throughout the years, some that played with them a long, long time. I seem to remember them pointing out the Chili Peppers as an example of a band that had several members inducted, even some that had very little time with the Chili Peppers.

Are there any rules to this? I don't think so. I think it's totally the RRHOF's decision. Obviously, bands don't get to decide (as I mentioned in the KISS example).

If I were to guess, Pearl Jam members getting inducted will include:
Eddie
Jeff
Stone
Mike
Matt (member since 1998, has played on half of their albums)
Dave Krusen (played on their biggest-selling, most popular album)
Dave Abbruzzese (played on two #1, multi-platinum albums)
Jack Irons (played on two platinum albums)


I truly hope these 8 make it. I think it would be incredibly shitty if, for example, Dave A. is left out and Jack Irons is included.

I would say no to Boom and Matt Chamberlain (never played on an album).
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2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
2005: 9/9, 9/28
2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
2007: 8/5
2009: 8/23, 8/24
2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
2013: 7/19, 11/16
2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
2022: 9/18
2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
2024: 5/18, 6/29
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    hope they all get in
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  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,877
    edited August 2016
    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,842
    I hope they do the ceremony in L.A.!
  • wnh1977
    wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 651
    edited August 2016

    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album

    I think Dave K. is considered the original drummer for the band... not a "session drummer". If I'm not mistaken, he was the drummer for the band's early shows (including their first ever - 10/22/90... a date often considered the anniversary date of the band). According to Wikipedia: "Krusen was a member of the band from its first official show on October 22, 1990, to the completion of the band's debut album, Ten in 1991." Sorry, a band member during one of the biggest albums ever gets in over a touring keyboardist.

    Wikipedia also mentions Krusen left the band in May 1991, so after recording but before the release of Ten. I think the whole drummer thing is very tricky when it comes to induction. I'm guessing the band is very loyal to Matt and Jack mostly. They've known Matt forever, even played on the original demos, right? Matt is their current drummer and has been in the band 18+ years (but during the latter half, less commercially successful period). Jack lined up Stone and Jeff with Eddie, so he's an important figure in PJ's inception as well... BUT, I don't believe he stands out more than Abbruzzese as far as inception honors go.


    Post edited by wnh1977 on
    1998: 6/26, 6/27, 6/29
    2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
    2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
    2005: 9/9, 9/28
    2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
    2007: 8/5
    2009: 8/23, 8/24
    2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
    2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
    2013: 7/19, 11/16
    2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
    2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
    2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
    2022: 9/18
    2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
    2024: 5/18, 6/29
  • twhite1221
    twhite1221 here, there, everywhere Posts: 99
    I think Matt is a no brainer, its the other 3 that gets tricky. They all have their selling points. I think it would be great for them all to get in and play at the induction, I seriously doubt that happens though.
  • Would be nice to see all 4. They've all definitely earned it.
    Jack's my favorite. I could easily see him being left out over the other three, and I think that would be total robbery.
    I think the band breaking out Angel this year and mentioning Dave A from the stage shows they're ok with him being there for that nite...
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Matt Cameron's been with them for 18 years now, which is almost 75% of the band's career. It will be him & the 4 main guys, sorry Boom.

    The other drummers will get a shout out from someone in the band during the acceptance speech, but that will be the extent of it IMO.

  • EnterThanman
    EnterThanman London, ON Posts: 1,057
    edited August 2016
    Dave A and Matt C for sure. Jack Irons if he didn't get in with the Chili Peppers. The rest I don't think will be in. I'd like to see Boom in but he's never been listed as an official member of the band so don't think it will happen.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,779
    edited August 2016

    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album

    Dave K was the original drummer (unless you count the demos which Matt Cameron played on) and if not for personal issues would probably still be the drummer.
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  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437

    I think Matt is a no brainer, its the other 3 that gets tricky. They all have their selling points. I think it would be great for them all to get in and play at the induction, I seriously doubt that happens though.

    That's the thing - for the RnRHOF, the current drummer is NOT a no-brainer. It usually IS the "original line up" of the band. So hard to say how the HOF will handle it, but something tells me that because it's PJ, they'll maybe be a little flexible and let them have all the drummers come up? That's my guess. But "original line-up" is usually the thing. Did Nirvana's first drummer go up when they got inducted, or just Krist and Dave?
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    igotid88 said:

    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album

    Dave K was the original drummer (unless you count the demos which Matt Cameron played on) and if not for personal issues would probably still be the drummer.
    Pretty sure Dave K. was just a session drummer who happened to play a few live shows with them. In other words, he wasn't a member of the band. I could be wrong
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  • twhite1221
    twhite1221 here, there, everywhere Posts: 99
    JH6056 said:

    I think Matt is a no brainer, its the other 3 that gets tricky. They all have their selling points. I think it would be great for them all to get in and play at the induction, I seriously doubt that happens though.

    That's the thing - for the RnRHOF, the current drummer is NOT a no-brainer. It usually IS the "original line up" of the band. So hard to say how the HOF will handle it, but something tells me that because it's PJ, they'll maybe be a little flexible and let them have all the drummers come up? That's my guess. But "original line-up" is usually the thing. Did Nirvana's first drummer go up when they got inducted, or just Krist and Dave?
    From what I remember it was only Cobain, Grohl, and Krist...Channing was not included. I think with Matt's lengthy history with the band the only way he gets left out is if Soundgarden gets inducted next year as well.
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514

    JH6056 said:

    I think Matt is a no brainer, its the other 3 that gets tricky. They all have their selling points. I think it would be great for them all to get in and play at the induction, I seriously doubt that happens though.

    That's the thing - for the RnRHOF, the current drummer is NOT a no-brainer. It usually IS the "original line up" of the band. So hard to say how the HOF will handle it, but something tells me that because it's PJ, they'll maybe be a little flexible and let them have all the drummers come up? That's my guess. But "original line-up" is usually the thing. Did Nirvana's first drummer go up when they got inducted, or just Krist and Dave?
    From what I remember it was only Cobain, Grohl, and Krist...Channing was not included. I think with Matt's lengthy history with the band the only way he gets left out is if Soundgarden gets inducted next year as well.
    Why would Matt's inclusion with one band preclude induction with the other?
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  • twhite1221
    twhite1221 here, there, everywhere Posts: 99
    KV4053 said:

    JH6056 said:

    I think Matt is a no brainer, its the other 3 that gets tricky. They all have their selling points. I think it would be great for them all to get in and play at the induction, I seriously doubt that happens though.

    That's the thing - for the RnRHOF, the current drummer is NOT a no-brainer. It usually IS the "original line up" of the band. So hard to say how the HOF will handle it, but something tells me that because it's PJ, they'll maybe be a little flexible and let them have all the drummers come up? That's my guess. But "original line-up" is usually the thing. Did Nirvana's first drummer go up when they got inducted, or just Krist and Dave?
    From what I remember it was only Cobain, Grohl, and Krist...Channing was not included. I think with Matt's lengthy history with the band the only way he gets left out is if Soundgarden gets inducted next year as well.
    Why would Matt's inclusion with one band preclude induction with the other?
    Not saying it should....just that the Hall makes crazy decisions in regards to these things and who knows what they could possibly do.
  • jp307677
    jp307677 Boston Posts: 417
    wnh1977 said:

    So... the band has went through a few drummers. Who is going to get inducted? Obviously, we have the 4 that have been there the whole time (Ed, Jeff, Stone & Mike)... but who else?

    When KISS got inducted, Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons were upset that only the original four were inducted, even though they had several other members throughout the years, some that played with them a long, long time. I seem to remember them pointing out the Chili Peppers as an example of a band that had several members inducted, even some that had very little time with the Chili Peppers.

    Are there any rules to this? I don't think so. I think it's totally the RRHOF's decision. Obviously, bands don't get to decide (as I mentioned in the KISS example).

    If I were to guess, Pearl Jam members getting inducted will include:
    Eddie
    Jeff
    Stone
    Mike
    Matt (member since 1998, has played on half of their albums)
    Dave Krusen (played on their biggest-selling, most popular album)
    Dave Abbruzzese (played on two #1, multi-platinum albums)
    Jack Irons (played on two platinum albums)


    I truly hope these 8 make it. I think it would be incredibly shitty if, for example, Dave A. is left out and Jack Irons is included.

    I would say no to Boom and Matt Chamberlain (never played on an album).


    I'm pretty sure Boom has played on a few albums...certainly on at least Riot Act. It would be a shame if he wasn't inducted, he has been such a big part of their live shows since 2002.
  • TheLuckyOnes
    TheLuckyOnes Posts: 476
    edited August 2016
    KV4053 said:

    igotid88 said:

    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album

    Dave K was the original drummer (unless you count the demos which Matt Cameron played on) and if not for personal issues would probably still be the drummer.
    Pretty sure Dave K. was just a session drummer who happened to play a few live shows with them. In other words, he wasn't a member of the band. I could be wrong
    Nope. You're wrong.
    You're thinking of Matt Chamberlain. He was session guy, post-DaveK, pre-Dave A. Dave K was definitely a full band member.
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514

    KV4053 said:

    igotid88 said:

    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album

    Dave K was the original drummer (unless you count the demos which Matt Cameron played on) and if not for personal issues would probably still be the drummer.
    Pretty sure Dave K. was just a session drummer who happened to play a few live shows with them. In other words, he wasn't a member of the band. I could be wrong
    Nope. You're wrong.
    You're thinking of Matt Chamberlain. He was session guy, post-DaveK, pre-Dave A. Dave K was definitely a full band member.
    Source please?
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  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,428
    I would expect the main 4. all drummers. and Boom, he has been a major weapon (especially in concert) for more than half the bands career.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,779
    KV4053 said:

    KV4053 said:

    igotid88 said:

    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album

    Dave K was the original drummer (unless you count the demos which Matt Cameron played on) and if not for personal issues would probably still be the drummer.
    Pretty sure Dave K. was just a session drummer who happened to play a few live shows with them. In other words, he wasn't a member of the band. I could be wrong
    Nope. You're wrong.
    You're thinking of Matt Chamberlain. He was session guy, post-DaveK, pre-Dave A. Dave K was definitely a full band member.
    Source please?
    if you're a fan of the band from the beginning you should know this. Also with all the love Dave A gets it's understandable why some might think he was the first drummer or first real drummer.
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  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,415
    KV4053 said:

    KV4053 said:

    igotid88 said:

    I would say Boom over Dave K. Did he even tour, technically he was a session drummer on an amazing album

    Dave K was the original drummer (unless you count the demos which Matt Cameron played on) and if not for personal issues would probably still be the drummer.
    Pretty sure Dave K. was just a session drummer who happened to play a few live shows with them. In other words, he wasn't a member of the band. I could be wrong
    Nope. You're wrong.
    You're thinking of Matt Chamberlain. He was session guy, post-DaveK, pre-Dave A. Dave K was definitely a full band member.
    Source please?
    Don't need a source to tell you he's right but here you go:

    http://archive.alternativenation.net/the-history-of-pearl-jam-drummers/
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