Now will the band be satisfied enough with the performances to release them (so as to avoid a PJ20).
Is that why Alpine PJ20 wasn't released ?? They didn't like their performance ??
That's been the speculation (the performances were lovably sloppy sometimes, but that's to be expected when pulling out songs you've played a handful of times, if ever), but there was an interesting tidbit in either the Temple or MLB reissue threads indicating something happened to the film. I'd be curious to know if more of that was fleshed out in later threads.
If they were really wearing the same clothing on purpose, then would it just be a "best of DVD"? Truthfully, I'd find that kind of lame. I would much rather see a full show DVD.
I'd love to see them release a DVD box set of both Fenway shows and both Wrigley shows. Charge $60-$80.
If they were really wearing the same clothing on purpose, then would it just be a "best of DVD"? Truthfully, I'd find that kind of lame. I would much rather see a full show DVD.
I'd love to see them release a DVD box set of both Fenway shows and both Wrigley shows. Charge $60-$80.
Yes and yes (especially for the price)
Hey nanana ain't that somethin PJ Chi 2--08-24-2009 SG Chi 1--01-23-2013 PJ Wrigley--07-19-2013 CCornell Chi--10-06-2015 PJ Wrigley--08-20 & 22 2016 PJ Wrigley--08-18 & 20 2018 Denver— 09-22-2022
That's been the speculation (the performances were lovably sloppy sometimes, but that's to be expected when pulling out songs you've played a handful of times, if ever), but there was an interesting tidbit in either the Temple or MLB reissue threads indicating something happened to the film. I'd be curious to know if more of that was fleshed out in later threads.
I remember asking someone off of PJXM if they'd be releasing it and they said they were going to try and put something together. I kept wondering when though. But I also remember hearing about how some songs weren't as "perfect" as some hoped. I agree with THE LOOK, there is beauty in 'flaw'. I hope to hear more about this
Hey nanana ain't that somethin PJ Chi 2--08-24-2009 SG Chi 1--01-23-2013 PJ Wrigley--07-19-2013 CCornell Chi--10-06-2015 PJ Wrigley--08-20 & 22 2016 PJ Wrigley--08-18 & 20 2018 Denver— 09-22-2022
If they were really wearing the same clothing on purpose, then would it just be a "best of DVD"? Truthfully, I'd find that kind of lame. I would much rather see a full show DVD.
I'd love to see them release a DVD box set of both Fenway shows and both Wrigley shows. Charge $60-$80.
$220 for a box in the shape of Boom's head.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium - Jul 15, 2006
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
Im more in favor of a Touring Band '16 than a complete show. I might be in the minority on that tho. It was nice to drop in on so many shows all with great performances
Now will the band be satisfied enough with the performances to release them (so as to avoid a PJ20).
Is that why Alpine PJ20 wasn't released ?? They didn't like their performance ??
That's been the speculation (the performances were lovably sloppy sometimes, but that's to be expected when pulling out songs you've played a handful of times, if ever), but there was an interesting tidbit in either the Temple or MLB reissue threads indicating something happened to the film. I'd be curious to know if more of that was fleshed out in later threads.
I can only tell you that upon trying to retrieve the raw video files for the Temple of the Dog Reissue the PJ20 footage was not available, only a DVD filmed from the screens in standard definition. They did not have their current crew from 2012 on that they contract now that films them in HD with 15 camera angles and does a great job and knows their music. There reason for not releasing the audio could be speculated as performance related, but as for video as far as I know nobody ever tried to obtain the video until thisTemple Reissue.They may have been able to mix the raw files after but somewhere between then and now the files were misplaced.
1994 - Pensacola, Miami, Atlanta - 1995 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, New Orleans (Tickets to Phoenix, Las Cruces, Austin, Shows Canceled) - 1996 - Randalls Island, Randalls Island, Charlotte, N.Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale - 1997 - Oakland-1998 - Alpine Valley, Alpine Valley, Chicago, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach - 2000 - West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas (10th Anniversary Show) - 2003 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Camden, Camden, MSG, MSG - 2004 - Kissimmee, Fl - 2006 - Irving Plaza, Albany, Hartford, Denver, Denver, Las Vegas - 2007 - Ed w/ Jack Irons & Flea in LA - 2008 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Columbia, Camden, Camden, Washington D.C. - 2009 - L.A., San Diego, Philly Spectrum Night 3 & 4 - 2010 - New Orleans, Columbus, Indianapolis, Hartford, MSG, MSG - 2011 - Ed - Hartford, Providence, Boston - 2011 - Alpine Valley X2 (PJ20), Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver - 2012 - Ed - Ft. Lauderdale x2, - 2012 / 2014 Beautiful Daughter "Emily" born 11/07/12. On the bench for 3 years! She's really cute though! - 2015 - Mexico City - 2016 - Ft. Laud, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Greenville, Raleigh, Columbia, Philly 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2, Wrigley Night 1 & 2 - 2016 - MSG, San Francisco, San Francisco, Seattle, Seattle (TOTD) - 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
Totally stolen from facebook.........if anything, this tour screams for a touring band style DVD
25 shows 763 total songs 167 different songs 31 songs per night (and don't forget only 9 songs for the TMR show) Only MYM played every night 45 songs were played one time 41 other songs played only twice Most common opener = Go (4 times) Most common closer = Yellow Ledbetter (10)
Now will the band be satisfied enough with the performances to release them (so as to avoid a PJ20).
Is that why Alpine PJ20 wasn't released ?? They didn't like their performance ??
That's been the speculation (the performances were lovably sloppy sometimes, but that's to be expected when pulling out songs you've played a handful of times, if ever), but there was an interesting tidbit in either the Temple or MLB reissue threads indicating something happened to the film. I'd be curious to know if more of that was fleshed out in later threads.
I can only tell you that upon trying to retrieve the raw video files for the Temple of the Dog Reissue the PJ20 footage was not available, only a DVD filmed from the screens in standard definition. They did not have their current crew from 2012 on that they contract now that films them in HD with 15 camera angles and does a great job and knows their music. There reason for not releasing the audio could be speculated as performance related, but as for video as far as I know nobody ever tried to obtain the video until thisTemple Reissue.They may have been able to mix the raw files after but somewhere between then and now the files were misplaced.
Thanks for the update on this! Part of me loves the fact that PJ20 was a utopia that only exists in my mind, but the other part of my would love to rewatch/listen in semi decent quality. And I had no idea all shows were filmed in HD with 15 angles. The crew obviously knows the music well. Thanks so much for the info!!
Now will the band be satisfied enough with the performances to release them (so as to avoid a PJ20).
Is that why Alpine PJ20 wasn't released ?? They didn't like their performance ??
That's been the speculation (the performances were lovably sloppy sometimes, but that's to be expected when pulling out songs you've played a handful of times, if ever), but there was an interesting tidbit in either the Temple or MLB reissue threads indicating something happened to the film. I'd be curious to know if more of that was fleshed out in later threads.
I can only tell you that upon trying to retrieve the raw video files for the Temple of the Dog Reissue the PJ20 footage was not available, only a DVD filmed from the screens in standard definition. They did not have their current crew from 2012 on that they contract now that films them in HD with 15 camera angles and does a great job and knows their music. There reason for not releasing the audio could be speculated as performance related, but as for video as far as I know nobody ever tried to obtain the video until thisTemple Reissue.They may have been able to mix the raw files after but somewhere between then and now the files were misplaced.
Thanks for the update on this! Part of me loves the fact that PJ20 was a utopia that only exists in my mind, but the other part of my would love to rewatch/listen in semi decent quality. And I had no idea all shows were filmed in HD with 15 angles. The crew obviously knows the music well. Thanks so much for the info!!
The crew they currently have started out with 5 cameras and then continued to expand more angles as they and the band got more comfortable with each other, so the earlier Lightning Bolt Tours will have less angles then these Stadium shows that they have just added these overhead angles.. None of this is any inside info.. I just was listening to the Q&A at the House of Blues thingy in between the Fenway shows... As for the info about the PJ20 footage I did obtain this info from inside sources..
1994 - Pensacola, Miami, Atlanta - 1995 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee, New Orleans (Tickets to Phoenix, Las Cruces, Austin, Shows Canceled) - 1996 - Randalls Island, Randalls Island, Charlotte, N.Charleston, Ft. Lauderdale - 1997 - Oakland-1998 - Alpine Valley, Alpine Valley, Chicago, West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach - 2000 - West Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, Phoenix, Las Vegas (10th Anniversary Show) - 2003 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Atlanta, Nashville, Camden, Camden, MSG, MSG - 2004 - Kissimmee, Fl - 2006 - Irving Plaza, Albany, Hartford, Denver, Denver, Las Vegas - 2007 - Ed w/ Jack Irons & Flea in LA - 2008 - West Palm Beach, Tampa, Columbia, Camden, Camden, Washington D.C. - 2009 - L.A., San Diego, Philly Spectrum Night 3 & 4 - 2010 - New Orleans, Columbus, Indianapolis, Hartford, MSG, MSG - 2011 - Ed - Hartford, Providence, Boston - 2011 - Alpine Valley X2 (PJ20), Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver - 2012 - Ed - Ft. Lauderdale x2, - 2012 / 2014 Beautiful Daughter "Emily" born 11/07/12. On the bench for 3 years! She's really cute though! - 2015 - Mexico City - 2016 - Ft. Laud, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Greenville, Raleigh, Columbia, Philly 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2, Wrigley Night 1 & 2 - 2016 - MSG, San Francisco, San Francisco, Seattle, Seattle (TOTD) - 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2, Fenway 1 & 2
Im more in favor of a Touring Band '16 than a complete show. I might be in the minority on that tho. It was nice to drop in on so many shows all with great performances
Me too. Love full shows also, ofc.
But man. They should have released a Touring Band-DVD/BD every tour for members only.
Touring band 2000 Touring band 2003 Touring band 2006
etc.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Did the band really have the same clothes. All of them?
Yes.
Except for Stone had different underwear on. Mikes guitar playing on night 1 made him crap his pants. Subsequently, he threw that pair away and wore boxer briefs on night 2.
Keep an eye out...I have heard, on good authority, the ones he threw away MAY end up on ebay...
I'm sure most every show is recorded. That said, we know Fenway 1 was as it was shown at HOB. I thought it was interesting how tehre was no Lightning Bolt backdrop for Fenway 1 but it was there for Fenway 2 and Wrigley 1. But then all of the sudden it was gone again for Wrigley 2. Maybe others know a reason why the backdrop was gone at two of the four shows (wind maybe?) but it got me thinking that Fenway 1 and Wrigley 2 could be making their way to DVD and they wanted a cleaner backdrop. Fingers crossed..
Is a Compliment For You. 1998 Va. Beach ~~ 2000 Va. Beach ~~ Columbia, Md. ~~ 2003 Bristow, Va. ~~ 2006 DC ~~ 2008 Va. Beach ~~ DC ~~ 2010 Bristow, Va. ~~ 2013 Charlottesville, Va. ~~ 2016 Hampton, Va. ~~ Fenway 1 & 2 ~~ Wrigley 1 & 2 ~~ 2022 Nashville ~~ St. Louis ~~ Oklahoma City ~~ 2023 St. Paul 1 & 2 ~~ Austin 1 & 2 ~~ 2024 Vegas 1 & 2 ~~ Indianapolis ~~ Wrigley 2 ~~ MSG 1 & 2 ~~ Philly 1 & 2 ~~ Fenway 1 & 2 ~~
i heart tb2k. much prefer the variety of that over live at the garden.
i think it's goofy about repeating the clothing so they could splice best together (but a logical leap). i mean, they're not kidding us, so why bother?
I'm sure most every show is recorded. That said, we know Fenway 1 was as it was shown at HOB. I thought it was interesting how tehre was no Lightning Bolt backdrop for Fenway 1 but it was there for Fenway 2 and Wrigley 1. But then all of the sudden it was gone again for Wrigley 2. Maybe others know a reason why the backdrop was gone at two of the four shows (wind maybe?) but it got me thinking that Fenway 1 and Wrigley 2 could be making their way to DVD and they wanted a cleaner backdrop. Fingers crossed..
Hmm............... Yeah. Maybe this will be out next year or whatever and LB will be too old buy then....
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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ain't that somethin
PJ Chi 2--08-24-2009
SG Chi 1--01-23-2013
PJ Wrigley--07-19-2013
CCornell Chi--10-06-2015
PJ Wrigley--08-20 & 22 2016
PJ Wrigley--08-18 & 20 2018
Denver— 09-22-2022
ain't that somethin
PJ Chi 2--08-24-2009
SG Chi 1--01-23-2013
PJ Wrigley--07-19-2013
CCornell Chi--10-06-2015
PJ Wrigley--08-20 & 22 2016
PJ Wrigley--08-18 & 20 2018
Denver— 09-22-2022
- Mitch Hedberg
I'd love to see them release a DVD box set of both Fenway shows and both Wrigley shows. Charge $60-$80.
ain't that somethin
PJ Chi 2--08-24-2009
SG Chi 1--01-23-2013
PJ Wrigley--07-19-2013
CCornell Chi--10-06-2015
PJ Wrigley--08-20 & 22 2016
PJ Wrigley--08-18 & 20 2018
Denver— 09-22-2022
ain't that somethin
PJ Chi 2--08-24-2009
SG Chi 1--01-23-2013
PJ Wrigley--07-19-2013
CCornell Chi--10-06-2015
PJ Wrigley--08-20 & 22 2016
PJ Wrigley--08-18 & 20 2018
Denver— 09-22-2022
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
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'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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Philadelphia 2016 (Night 2)
Upper Darby 2016 (Night 2) (Temple of the Dog)
25 shows
763 total songs
167 different songs
31 songs per night (and don't forget only 9 songs for the TMR show)
Only MYM played every night
45 songs were played one time
41 other songs played only twice
Most common opener = Go (4 times)
Most common closer = Yellow Ledbetter (10)
But man. They should have released a Touring Band-DVD/BD every tour for members only.
Touring band 2000
Touring band 2003
Touring band 2006
etc.
We used to race.
MSG 11/07/2016 (TOTD)
Rio 11/22/2015
Rio 11/06/2011
for the least they could possibly do
1998 Va. Beach ~~ 2000 Va. Beach ~~ Columbia, Md. ~~ 2003 Bristow, Va. ~~ 2006 DC ~~ 2008 Va. Beach ~~ DC ~~
2010 Bristow, Va. ~~ 2013 Charlottesville, Va. ~~ 2016 Hampton, Va. ~~ Fenway 1 & 2 ~~ Wrigley 1 & 2 ~~
2022 Nashville ~~ St. Louis ~~ Oklahoma City ~~ 2023 St. Paul 1 & 2 ~~ Austin 1 & 2 ~~
2024 Vegas 1 & 2 ~~ Indianapolis ~~ Wrigley 2 ~~ MSG 1 & 2 ~~ Philly 1 & 2 ~~ Fenway 1 & 2 ~~
i think it's goofy about repeating the clothing so they could splice best together (but a logical leap). i mean, they're not kidding us, so why bother?
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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