Munich Shooting Spree

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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited July 2016
    ISIS flooding in with the refugees why does that seem so far fetched?? These guys have a network and reach beyond our scope

    All of Europe is wide open and Germany took in a lot of these refugees

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/world/europe/germany-to-accept-syrian-refugees.html?_r=0
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    pjalive21 said:

    ISIS flooding in with the refugees why does that seem so far fetched?? These guys have a network and reach beyond our scope

    All of Europe is wide open and Germany took in a lot of these refugees

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/world/europe/germany-to-accept-syrian-refugees.html?_r=0

    Is it wide open, or are countries taking in refugees? And you seem to know who the shooter(s) is.
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited July 2016
    Go Beavers said:

    pjalive21 said:

    ISIS flooding in with the refugees why does that seem so far fetched?? These guys have a network and reach beyond our scope

    All of Europe is wide open and Germany took in a lot of these refugees

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/world/europe/germany-to-accept-syrian-refugees.html?_r=0

    Is it wide open, or are countries taking in refugees? And you seem to know who the shooter(s) is.
    we don't know for a fact but couple different news sources has cited terrorism and lets be honest the track record lately has been terrorism or lone wolf terrorism, however you chose to label it

    this is from February...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/06/world/europe/germany-refugees-isis.html

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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    pjalive21 said:

    FoxyRedLa said:

    Wtf is going on!? Why innocent lives?!!?

    Countries with wide open borders....

    and sick individuals with a will to kill

    It's highly unlikely that this is an immigration issue
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Degeneratefk said:

    pjalive21 said:

    FoxyRedLa said:

    Wtf is going on!? Why innocent lives?!!?

    Countries with wide open borders....

    and sick individuals with a will to kill

    It's highly unlikely that this is an immigration issue
    One thing we know for sure- it's a human issue and more and more humans (of all sorts) have lost any semblance of sanity and humanity.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    How about you actually get some facts before making assumptions? Reports suggest the perpetrators were in fact neo-Nazi scum, so ye can hold off on your anti-Muslim, anti-refugee diatribe for this one.

    And to those of you suggesting this is now normal, let me assure you that here in Europe we are not desensitised to it and it does still cause great shock.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    brianlux said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    pjalive21 said:

    FoxyRedLa said:

    Wtf is going on!? Why innocent lives?!!?

    Countries with wide open borders....

    and sick individuals with a will to kill

    It's highly unlikely that this is an immigration issue
    One thing we know for sure- it's a human issue and more and more humans (of all sorts) have lost any semblance of sanity and humanity.
    Absolutely
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    18 year old from Germany
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    Cliffy6745 said:

    18 year old from Germany

    Any further info? A disturbed youth? Just someone trying to become infamous or someone with an axe to grind?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    brianlux said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    18 year old from Germany

    Any further info? A disturbed youth? Just someone trying to become infamous or someone with an axe to grind?
    Iranian heritage so assume radicalized
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    brianlux said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    18 year old from Germany

    Any further info? A disturbed youth? Just someone trying to become infamous or someone with an axe to grind?
    Someone said he's a Neo-Nazi.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Cliffy6745 said:

    brianlux said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    18 year old from Germany

    Any further info? A disturbed youth? Just someone trying to become infamous or someone with an axe to grind?
    Iranian heritage so assume radicalized
    That's a bit of a jump.

    You may be correct in the end but...pretty bold assumption.

    I'm not radicalized.
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    hedonist said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    brianlux said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    18 year old from Germany

    Any further info? A disturbed youth? Just someone trying to become infamous or someone with an axe to grind?
    Iranian heritage so assume radicalized
    That's a bit of a jump.

    You may be correct in the end but...pretty bold assumption.

    I'm not radicalized.
    Excellent point, it is certainly a very premptuous leap to make
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    Basically, the German police aren't leaping to any conclusions. There are conflicting eyewitness reports, one person claiming he shouted abuse against foreigners and said he was German, another saying he yelled Allahu Akbar.

    So I guess we just have to wait for more concrete info
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Sounds like a single shooter. An 18 year old kid with German and Iranian citizenship. Early reports are the guy had no links to a terror group. But that he had some sort of mental disorder (obvioulsy).

    I guess the days of just taking yourself out are over. Everyone wants to make a head line.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Degeneratefk said:

    Sounds like a single shooter. An 18 year old kid with German and Iranian citizenship. Early reports are the guy had no links to a terror group. But that he had some sort of mental disorder (obvioulsy).

    I guess the days of just taking yourself out are over. Everyone wants to make a head line.

    While I've agreed with most of what you've posted here I don't agree with your "obviously". Violence does not equate to mental illness, and we do those you do struggle with mental illness a huge disservice to assume it does. Far more violence is due to plain old anger and frustration in people who never developed better ways to deal with it, often fueled by alcohol or drugs.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Sounds like a single shooter. An 18 year old kid with German and Iranian citizenship. Early reports are the guy had no links to a terror group. But that he had some sort of mental disorder (obvioulsy).

    I guess the days of just taking yourself out are over. Everyone wants to make a head line.

    While I've agreed with most of what you've posted here I don't agree with your "obviously". Violence does not equate to mental illness, and we do those you do struggle with mental illness a huge disservice to assume it does. Far more violence is due to plain old anger and frustration in people who never developed better ways to deal with it, often fueled by alcohol or drugs.
    If you are willing to walk outside of a mcdonalds and start shooting and target children, you have some sort of mental disorder. The rational brain does not work that way.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    So many lunitics out there
    Some times are isis,sometimes a fucked up kid,some times a freak out person..
    Thing is all of them,,just shoot innocent..simple people walkimg in a street,shopping in a mall
    Now a kid ..of 18 years old..born and raise to munich ,parents from iran...
    Thing is the world is fucked up and human life means nothing for so many out there
    What is clear for me so far..in almost all situations...the suspect,the murderers are almost always someone doesnt fit in society.they are out of it..or kicked out of it.,thats why mostly are muslism
    Cos cant get easily along their style of life and religion with west world.and they left alone..with no friends,no girlfriend,,sure some make fun of them,..and thats makes jealousy,creates hate..and them he turns into fanatic groups..and its more easily then to turn u to something dangerous....alot find selter to fanatic islam grouos and get manipulate and becomes from a kid to a murderer...someone that finnaly gets the attention,do something "important"..his name stays at history....globalization has a price that some must pay with their lifes...sad..but true
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    In other good news about it
    2 pj fans and friends from munich both of them and their families are safe
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Degeneratefk said:

    oftenreading said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Sounds like a single shooter. An 18 year old kid with German and Iranian citizenship. Early reports are the guy had no links to a terror group. But that he had some sort of mental disorder (obvioulsy).

    I guess the days of just taking yourself out are over. Everyone wants to make a head line.

    While I've agreed with most of what you've posted here I don't agree with your "obviously". Violence does not equate to mental illness, and we do those you do struggle with mental illness a huge disservice to assume it does. Far more violence is due to plain old anger and frustration in people who never developed better ways to deal with it, often fueled by alcohol or drugs.
    If you are willing to walk outside of a mcdonalds and start shooting and target children, you have some sort of mental disorder. The rational brain does not work that way.
    Human behaviour is far more complex than "rational vs irrational", and assuming that everyone who is violent has a mental disorder lets those who are violent due to normal human emotions like rage and jealousy off far too easily.
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