Munich Shooting Spree

PJ_Soul

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

apparently trump thinks he can stop things like this.

why is everyone shocked by this? it happens every single day somewhere in the world.

i'm not going to waste my time typing about how angry i am about this. i have done it a hundred times. it keeps happening, and nothing is ever going to stop it.

People are shocked because it happened in western Europe instead of somewhere more "foreign". Not to minimize the event. They are all horrifying.

I don't agree that people are shocked because it happened in germany as opposed to Bangladesh. The west has had more than its fair share of attacks to make this less shocking every time.

I am not sure what you're saying here.

gimmesometruth27

i think it is less shocking because every one of us is desensitized to it.

in the united states it is like

"did you hear about the shooting in france?"

"no man, how many victims?"

"six."

"really? six? damn. so what are you doing this weekend?"

that is how casually these things are discussed here. it is so routine that it does not even register with a lot of people.

FoxyRedLa

I don't even think people are shocked. We just aren't going to accept it as the norm.

Degeneratefk

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

apparently trump thinks he can stop things like this.

why is everyone shocked by this? it happens every single day somewhere in the world.

i'm not going to waste my time typing about how angry i am about this. i have done it a hundred times. it keeps happening, and nothing is ever going to stop it.

People are shocked because it happened in western Europe instead of somewhere more "foreign". Not to minimize the event. They are all horrifying.

I don't agree that people are shocked because it happened in germany as opposed to Bangladesh. The west has had more than its fair share of attacks to make this less shocking every time.

I am not sure what you're saying here.

You said people are shocked because it happened in western Europe as opposed to somewhere more foreign. I disagree with that premise. The west has had more than its fair share of terrorist attacks. So much so, that it's becoming a normal thing.

PJ_Soul

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

apparently trump thinks he can stop things like this.

why is everyone shocked by this? it happens every single day somewhere in the world.

i'm not going to waste my time typing about how angry i am about this. i have done it a hundred times. it keeps happening, and nothing is ever going to stop it.

People are shocked because it happened in western Europe instead of somewhere more "foreign". Not to minimize the event. They are all horrifying.

I don't agree that people are shocked because it happened in germany as opposed to Bangladesh. The west has had more than its fair share of attacks to make this less shocking every time.

I am not sure what you're saying here.

You said people are shocked because it happened in western Europe as opposed to somewhere more foreign. I disagree with that premise. The west has had more than its fair share of terrorist attacks. So much so, that it's becoming a normal thing.

But they are certainly still much, much more reactive when it's in the West as opposed to elsewhere.

Degeneratefk

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

apparently trump thinks he can stop things like this.

why is everyone shocked by this? it happens every single day somewhere in the world.

i'm not going to waste my time typing about how angry i am about this. i have done it a hundred times. it keeps happening, and nothing is ever going to stop it.

People are shocked because it happened in western Europe instead of somewhere more "foreign". Not to minimize the event. They are all horrifying.

I don't agree that people are shocked because it happened in germany as opposed to Bangladesh. The west has had more than its fair share of attacks to make this less shocking every time.

I am not sure what you're saying here.

You said people are shocked because it happened in western Europe as opposed to somewhere more foreign. I disagree with that premise. The west has had more than its fair share of terrorist attacks. So much so, that it's becoming a normal thing.

But they are certainly still much, much more reactive when it's in the West as opposed to elsewhere.

Doesn't you mean the people are much more reactive in the west?

PJ_Soul

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

apparently trump thinks he can stop things like this.

why is everyone shocked by this? it happens every single day somewhere in the world.

i'm not going to waste my time typing about how angry i am about this. i have done it a hundred times. it keeps happening, and nothing is ever going to stop it.

People are shocked because it happened in western Europe instead of somewhere more "foreign". Not to minimize the event. They are all horrifying.

I don't agree that people are shocked because it happened in germany as opposed to Bangladesh. The west has had more than its fair share of attacks to make this less shocking every time.

I am not sure what you're saying here.

You said people are shocked because it happened in western Europe as opposed to somewhere more foreign. I disagree with that premise. The west has had more than its fair share of terrorist attacks. So much so, that it's becoming a normal thing.

But they are certainly still much, much more reactive when it's in the West as opposed to elsewhere.

Doesn't you mean the people are much more reactive in the west?

Huh? I'm just saying that North Americans are much more interested in or concerned about such attacks if they occur in Western Europe as opposed to elsewhere. Why this vexes me a little bit is because the attacks that happen elsewhere are just as indicative of the growing problem of terrorism in the world, just as much a warning or sign of the terrible issues we're facing right now, and those are the places where it happens far more often.

Drowned Out

There is a direct correlation between the use of foreign and domestic militant / extremist groups as western proxies in Syria and Libya, and the rise in the number of attacks occurring in western states over the past five years. Shocker. We will never learn. Most of us don't want to learn...
(Guess I might be jumping the gun assuming this is Islamic terror and not just a nut. Damnit, now I'm doing it, too)

josevolution

FoxyRedLa said:

I don't even think people are shocked. We just aren't going to accept it as the norm.

Here in the states we have accepted it , it's not shocking any more Sandy hook was the straw that broke the shock value .. The only thing I find shocking is that NOTHING was done after SH massacre !!

PJ_Soul

josevolution said:

FoxyRedLa said:

I don't even think people are shocked. We just aren't going to accept it as the norm.

Here in the states we have accepted it , it's not shocking any more Sandy hook was the straw that broke the shock value .. The only thing I find shocking is that NOTHING was done after SH massacre !!

I dunno, I feel like most people were pretty shocked, saddened and dismayed after Orlando, Dallas, and a bunch of other attacks since Sandy Hook.

Annafalk

Well the politicians hasn't done a very good work in protecting its European citizens.

gimmesometruth27

PJ_Soul said:

josevolution said:

FoxyRedLa said:

I don't even think people are shocked. We just aren't going to accept it as the norm.

Here in the states we have accepted it , it's not shocking any more Sandy hook was the straw that broke the shock value .. The only thing I find shocking is that NOTHING was done after SH massacre !!

I dunno, I feel like most people were pretty shocked, saddened and dismayed after Orlando, Dallas, and a bunch of other attacks since Sandy Hook.

orlando was the biggest mass shooting in our history. people are going to be shocked by sheer body count.

dallas was a lone nut on cops. shocking because it was on duty police who were ambushed.

unfortunately, and i will bet anybody anything on this, many americans care more about the 4 americans killed in benghazi than any of those others. this is what politics and nationalism does. it makes us ethnocentric.

Degeneratefk

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

apparently trump thinks he can stop things like this.

why is everyone shocked by this? it happens every single day somewhere in the world.

i'm not going to waste my time typing about how angry i am about this. i have done it a hundred times. it keeps happening, and nothing is ever going to stop it.

People are shocked because it happened in western Europe instead of somewhere more "foreign". Not to minimize the event. They are all horrifying.

I don't agree that people are shocked because it happened in germany as opposed to Bangladesh. The west has had more than its fair share of attacks to make this less shocking every time.

I am not sure what you're saying here.

You said people are shocked because it happened in western Europe as opposed to somewhere more foreign. I disagree with that premise. The west has had more than its fair share of terrorist attacks. So much so, that it's becoming a normal thing.

But they are certainly still much, much more reactive when it's in the West as opposed to elsewhere.

Doesn't you mean the people are much more reactive in the west?

Huh? I'm just saying that North Americans are much more interested in or concerned about such attacks if they occur in Western Europe as opposed to elsewhere. Why this vexes me a little bit is because the attacks that happen elsewhere are just as indicative of the growing problem of terrorism in the world, just as much a warning or sign of the terrible issues we're facing right now, and those are the places where it happens far more often.

Typo,
Should have said "do you mean...."

But, im not sure I think NA are more concerned if it happens in Europe as opposed to the middle east or asia. We all know they are working their way west. It's already started here in the states. Mostly all by American radicals. But it won't be long before there are foreign radicals shooting up places here and in Canada. And I doubt it will be all that surprising to anyone. Shocking, yes.

Jason P

An eye witness said the shooter targeted children.

PJ_Soul

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

apparently trump thinks he can stop things like this.

why is everyone shocked by this? it happens every single day somewhere in the world.

i'm not going to waste my time typing about how angry i am about this. i have done it a hundred times. it keeps happening, and nothing is ever going to stop it.

People are shocked because it happened in western Europe instead of somewhere more "foreign". Not to minimize the event. They are all horrifying.

I don't agree that people are shocked because it happened in germany as opposed to Bangladesh. The west has had more than its fair share of attacks to make this less shocking every time.

I am not sure what you're saying here.

You said people are shocked because it happened in western Europe as opposed to somewhere more foreign. I disagree with that premise. The west has had more than its fair share of terrorist attacks. So much so, that it's becoming a normal thing.

But they are certainly still much, much more reactive when it's in the West as opposed to elsewhere.

Doesn't you mean the people are much more reactive in the west?

Huh? I'm just saying that North Americans are much more interested in or concerned about such attacks if they occur in Western Europe as opposed to elsewhere. Why this vexes me a little bit is because the attacks that happen elsewhere are just as indicative of the growing problem of terrorism in the world, just as much a warning or sign of the terrible issues we're facing right now, and those are the places where it happens far more often.

Typo,
Should have said "do you mean...."

But, im not sure I think NA are more concerned if it happens in Europe as opposed to the middle east or asia. We all know they are working their way west. It's already started here in the states. Mostly all by American radicals. But it won't be long before there are foreign radicals shooting up places here and in Canada. And I doubt it will be all that surprising to anyone. Shocking, yes.

Well when was the last time you saw a candlelight vigil that spanned two continents for the many innocent victims of a terrorist attack that happened in Pakistan or Indonesia?

hedonist

kce8 is in Germany - not sure how close she is to Munich, but I hope she and her loved ones are safe.

As to the "shock factor", people react in their own ways...much like grief (ie, not as a demonstration for anyone else's benefit or opinion). This awful shit's weighed on me today as did Dallas, Nice, Orlando, Paris - and that's just the recent ones. So anyone claiming the majority are indifferent...respectfully disagree.

Just unnecessary losses of life, and for what?

To what end?

PJ_Soul

hedonist said:

kce8 is in Germany - not sure how close she is to Munich, but I hope she and her loved ones are safe.

As to the "shock factor", people react in their own ways...much like grief (ie, not as a demonstration for anyone else's benefit or opinion). This awful shit's weighed on me today as did Dallas, Nice, Orlando, Paris - and that's just the recent ones. So anyone claiming the majority are indifferent...respectfully disagree.

Just unnecessary losses of life, and for what?

To what end?

Yeah, obviously I do think most are basically indifferent about attacks outside of the West, but I agree that most aren't indifferent to these American or Western European attacks, nor are they desensitized. I think most express a pretty normal and authentic level of shock and dismay when these and tricks happen. Short of pulling our hair and tearing our clothes as we weep in the streets, I'm not sure how much more people could express their dismay when these think things happen in the West. Obviously the number of people that die has a direct affect on the amount of shock and dismay people feel, which is normal.

pjalive21

FoxyRedLa said:

Wtf is going on!? Why innocent lives?!!?

Countries with wide open borders....

and sick individuals with a will to kill

josevolution

It's not shocking to me anymore , these massacres seem to happen here all the time ...I know they don't happen every week but I'm just done getting sick to my head over them !

Go Beavers

pjalive21 said:

FoxyRedLa said:

Wtf is going on!? Why innocent lives?!!?

Countries with wide open borders....

and sick individuals with a will to kill

Germany has wide open borders? And it's just immigrants committing mass murder?