**THE OFFICIAL ST. LOUIS CARDINALS BASEBALL THREAD**

Wobbie

I like you guys just fine.....BUT THAT IS BULLSHIT

ledvedderman

I was watching it live and it was easy to tell in live speed that it was a ground rule double. The angle coming off the bounce and how the angle it took coming back into play off the sign...Z clearly didn't hit the regular wall.
Crazy. How MLB corrects this is going to be absolutely insane.

DewieCox

No doubt a shitty call. Ump mostly and the LF dropped the ball. Giving the manager a pass, b/c he went looking for blue within the 30 second limit.

pjalive21

yeah that was a terrible non call by the umps, but hey we have been screwed in calls plenty this year and ill take it, but definitely unfortunate

ledvedderman

Man alive. Even if we don't make the playoffs, the birds are giving an emotional goodbye to the season with the Diaz grand slam the other night and the Holliday pinch hit home run tonight. Got my lip quivering again. I'll miss Holliday and not totally sold on the idea of not even entertaining to sign him.

DewieCox

That was a pretty incredible scene. And yeah, maybe he'll take a huge pay cut to finish in StL. Seems doubtful in this day and age, especially since he could go to an AL team and probably cork 30 or so and hit over .250. I've stuck up for Holliday every time some fan mentions a time he hasn't come through in a pivotal moment. My little girl was as pissed as a 9 year old can be about him leaving.

Likes been mentioned before...they're probably gearing up for the 2017/18 offseason to make a splash on free agency. I like where they're heading roster wise, but every time a Chris Carpenter/Holliday/Wainwright leaves the team, Mathenys philosophy will ring a bit more hollow. Can't be too hard on him, with his success, but guys like Grichuknand Wong haven't responded well to it and this year the young guys took a big step in becoming the core of the team.

I've got no expectations of them making a run or even the WC. They'll need to pitch out of their ass to get the staff back in order for that, but they played last night like the pressure was off and it is. Could be a really fun postseason even if they don't make it. Even if they get knocked out, there are 9 other teams to pull for and my #2 team spot is wide open. The Cub fans that I interact with have gotten super annoying after a lot of silence when they hit their funk around the AS break. One had the idiocy to mention that the Cardinals have only won 3 titles in his life(he's around 40). Hopefully the Cub fans around here realize the dumb shit I have to deal with in the day to day and don't take my hatred for them too personally.

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Entire season comes down to game #162! Whooo!! Love October baseball!!

Wobbie

Pirates are due....

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Last day! Whoo!! Go Cards!

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All over! Good luck to whoever is left!

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Team has a great look this year! Looking forward to reclaiming the Central!

ledvedderman

I don't know, man. Losing Reyes for the year really hurts. I don't think we have the lineup, rotation or defense to compete. The central belongs to the Cubs for at least the next five years.

DewieCox

I don't think Reyes was gonna pitch as much as most fans seem to think. Will be hard to hang with the Cubs, but they can easily snag a WC slot and make it interesting going down the stretch. I don't think the Cubbies run away with it like last year. The Birds always seem to overperform when the expectations are lower.

I don't think it's as doom and gloom as I was feeling upon hearing the Reyes news. Lots of players coming back from injuries and CMart could very well take that next step up to a truly elite pitcher. Piscotty could very well have an all star caliber season and I think the pressure of setting the table being lifted from Carp could help him settle into a run producing role better than he has in the past. Excited to see what Diaz can do with a full season after a spring as a sure starter. Be an added bonus if Adams or Wong could produce in the bottom third of the lineup.

Cubs have a nice future no doubt, but our young guys get overlooked quite a bit. I think Dewitt and Mo are biding their time til a better free agent class when the big bucks start rolling in from the tv deal.

DewieCox

Sounds like a big get with Jose Garcia.

Wobbie

fuck the cubs!

ledvedderman

I'll say this as a lifelong Cardinals fan, the way some fans have treated Dexter Fowler online these last couple of weeks has been humiliating as hell.

DewieCox

Yeah, it's just dumb, but what do you expect in Trump country. Impressed as hell with how he's handled it.

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ledvedderman said:

I'll say this as a lifelong Cardinals fan, the way some fans have treated Dexter Fowler online these last couple of weeks has been humiliating as hell.

Bunch of trolls. Not worth anyone's time.

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Boys looking sharp these past few games!

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Nice spring training! Lets beat the Cubbies!