Tool

pearljammr78

I’ve seen Eulogy live like 2-3 times. Always awesome. All their songs are amazing live. 

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mr bungle said:

mickeyrat said:

show is timed to the second. what gets cut to include 7empest at 15min+

Whatever it takes.. that's the answer.

Do they really need Danny solo for 11 minutes?

that song is 4 min something......

Danny was fooling around with the giant gong before he sat down behind the drums for about five minutes.

mickeyrat

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mr bungle said:

mickeyrat said:

show is timed to the second. what gets cut to include 7empest at 15min+

Whatever it takes.. that's the answer.

Do they really need Danny solo for 11 minutes?

that song is 4 min something......

Danny was fooling around with the giant gong before he sat down behind the drums for about five minutes.

fooling around.

right.

as I recall, it didnt add very much at all to overall time and sounded cool as shit. Seeing him utilize all parts of that particular gong and the sounds and tones he brought out of it.

Merkin Baller

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mr bungle said:

mickeyrat said:

show is timed to the second. what gets cut to include 7empest at 15min+

Whatever it takes.. that's the answer.

Do they really need Danny solo for 11 minutes?

that song is 4 min something......

Danny was fooling around with the giant gong before he sat down behind the drums for about five minutes.

fooling around.

right.

as I recall, it didnt add very much at all to overall time and sounded cool as shit. Seeing him utilize all parts of that particular gong and the sounds and tones he brought out of it.

Seeing Danny Carey do anything percussion wise is a treat, & what he did with the giant gong this fall was cool as shit.

JT167846

Yup for mine he's the best drummer in the world, seeing him go apeshit is a special treat. Mind you most of his parts in Tool songs are absolutely insane. Rosetta Stoned...wow. Of course I'd rather see Tool play a shorter song instead of a drum solo, but he is so good that I'd never be disappointed to see CC trip in whatever form he chooses to display it.

Merkin Baller

Hearing a rumor about Tool headlining Bonnaroo next year.

If true, we can probably expect more US dates before and / or after, maybe May - June, or June - July?  

I hope it's arenas again. If they swing through the Northeast, I'll take what I can get, but I really don't want to go back to the local shed.

HesCalledDyer

JT167846 said:

Yup for mine he's the best drummer in the world, seeing him go apeshit is a special treat. Mind you most of his parts in Tool songs are absolutely insane. Rosetta Stoned...wow. Of course I'd rather see Tool play a shorter song instead of a drum solo, but he is so good that I'd never be disappointed to see CC trip in whatever form he chooses to display it.

One of the things I always enjoyed about seeing Rush live was how Neil Peart would have a drum solo every tour.  And each tour it would be a bigger solo than the last.  Sometimes you just have to marvel in the greatness of a damn fine percussionist, as is the case with Neil and Danny!

DewieCox

HesCalledDyer said:

JT167846 said:

Yup for mine he's the best drummer in the world, seeing him go apeshit is a special treat. Mind you most of his parts in Tool songs are absolutely insane. Rosetta Stoned...wow. Of course I'd rather see Tool play a shorter song instead of a drum solo, but he is so good that I'd never be disappointed to see CC trip in whatever form he chooses to display it.

One of the things I always enjoyed about seeing Rush live was how Neil Peart would have a drum solo every tour.  And each tour it would be a bigger solo than the last.  Sometimes you just have to marvel in the greatness of a damn fine percussionist, as is the case with Neil and Danny!

Peart has a much more varied style and setup and incorporates tracks to make it an actual song. Much more entertaining than someone like DC who has totally maximized a relatively limited when it comes to what he chooses to play. 

pjl44

I've seen Rush 4 or 5 times and Tool a dozen or more. The drum solos are neat but not a high point of either set for me. I would always prefer an extra song or two instead.

HesCalledDyer

pjl44 said:

I've seen Rush 4 or 5 times and Tool a dozen or more. The drum solos are neat but not a high point of either set for me. I would always prefer an extra song or two instead.

 At a Tool show, I would agree because their setlists are so short.  But Rush played 30 songs for 3 hours a night.  The drum solo never took anything away from the rest of the set.

Merkin Baller

pjl44 said:

I've seen Rush 4 or 5 times and Tool a dozen or more. The drum solos are neat but not a high point of either set for me. I would always prefer an extra song or two instead.

Of course if I had my preference, I would prefer to hear a Tool song over a Danny Carey drum solo.

With that being said however, you'll never hear me complain about sitting through a Danny Carey Drum solo.

pjl44

Merkin Baller said:

pjl44 said:

I've seen Rush 4 or 5 times and Tool a dozen or more. The drum solos are neat but not a high point of either set for me. I would always prefer an extra song or two instead.

Of course if I had my preference, I would prefer to hear a Tool song over a Danny Carey drum solo.

With that being said however, you'll never hear me complain about sitting through a Danny Carey Drum solo.

HesCalledDyer said:

pjl44 said:

I've seen Rush 4 or 5 times and Tool a dozen or more. The drum solos are neat but not a high point of either set for me. I would always prefer an extra song or two instead.

 At a Tool show, I would agree because their setlists are so short.  But Rush played 30 songs for 3 hours a night.  The drum solo never took anything away from the rest of the set.

I'm probably in the minority on this one (especially with these two bands), but drum solos are just not my jam

HesCalledDyer

pjl44 said:

Merkin Baller said:

pjl44 said:

I've seen Rush 4 or 5 times and Tool a dozen or more. The drum solos are neat but not a high point of either set for me. I would always prefer an extra song or two instead.

Of course if I had my preference, I would prefer to hear a Tool song over a Danny Carey drum solo.

With that being said however, you'll never hear me complain about sitting through a Danny Carey Drum solo.

HesCalledDyer said:

pjl44 said:

I've seen Rush 4 or 5 times and Tool a dozen or more. The drum solos are neat but not a high point of either set for me. I would always prefer an extra song or two instead.

 At a Tool show, I would agree because their setlists are so short.  But Rush played 30 songs for 3 hours a night.  The drum solo never took anything away from the rest of the set.

I'm probably in the minority on this one (especially with these two bands), but drum solos are just not my jam

Yeah I get it.  No worries, I'm in the overall minority (or majority, whatever way it falls) with you.  There are few I can make an exception for, Neil is one.

Merkin Baller

pjl44 said:

I'm probably in the minority on this one (especially with these two bands), but drum solos are just not my jam

Meh... it's music, it's subjective. To each his own.

GB281198

The only good drum solo I've seen live was the Allman Brothers. 

JT167846

Still a bit taken aback from ol' Dewie referring to Danny as limited. We must be listening to different drummers. Could be a well thought out troll though, some Tool fans can be rather precious.

DewieCox

JT167846 said:

Still a bit taken aback from ol' Dewie referring to Danny as limited. We must be listening to different drummers. Could be a well thought out troll though, some Tool fans can be rather precious.

Not ability wise but style wise, relative to Neil Peart and some other well rounded rock drummers. 

tempo_n_groove

DewieCox said:

JT167846 said:

Still a bit taken aback from ol' Dewie referring to Danny as limited. We must be listening to different drummers. Could be a well thought out troll though, some Tool fans can be rather precious.

Not ability wise but style wise, relative to Neil Peart and some other well rounded rock drummers. 

I am having this discussion w a drummer pal of mine.  He says Danny is good but not the best.

I ask him if he hears the same things that I do, lol?

This is also from a guy that ranks Alex VanHalen as an elite drummer...

DewieCox

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

JT167846 said:

Still a bit taken aback from ol' Dewie referring to Danny as limited. We must be listening to different drummers. Could be a well thought out troll though, some Tool fans can be rather precious.

Not ability wise but style wise, relative to Neil Peart and some other well rounded rock drummers. 

I am having this discussion w a drummer pal of mine.  He says Danny is good but not the best.

I ask him if he hears the same things that I do, lol?

This is also from a guy that ranks Alex VanHalen as an elite drummer...

As far as his drumming coordination and the difficulty of what he is able to pull off, there is no one better. I just meant it as more of a listening experience. 

tempo_n_groove

DewieCox said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

JT167846 said:

Still a bit taken aback from ol' Dewie referring to Danny as limited. We must be listening to different drummers. Could be a well thought out troll though, some Tool fans can be rather precious.

Not ability wise but style wise, relative to Neil Peart and some other well rounded rock drummers. 

I am having this discussion w a drummer pal of mine.  He says Danny is good but not the best.

I ask him if he hears the same things that I do, lol?

This is also from a guy that ranks Alex VanHalen as an elite drummer...

As far as his drumming coordination and the difficulty of what he is able to pull off, there is no one better. I just meant it as more of a listening experience. 

I agree except for the ladder but my buddy agrees in the reverse of you, lol.