what is up with all these hollywood pedos?

eddiec

Degeneratefk said:

Man, I've never found the genius in dylan. Can't stand to listen to him. I understand why people like him. But if he's a genius, what's vedder? Or Lennon? Or Hendrix? Gods?

Dylan is the God and they are his disciples.

eddiec

I remember reading 'Hammer of the Gods' years ago and it covered Page's relationship with that young girl. While they tried to hide the relationship clearly nobody that knew about seemed to care. That was a bit strange.

Malroth

Back to pedophilia please.

mace1229

Malroth said:

Back to pedophilia please.

Bet you thought you'd never say that in your life.

Who Princess

mace1229 said:

Everyone's got a little hypocrite in them. Didn't Pete Townsend get busted for child porn? I think he claimed it was for research or something. I don't remember all the details and I'm reluctant to google the situation since I'm on a work computer and hesitate to search anything that contains "child pornography" in the search title.

But I've seen them 3 times since that came out and still listen to them. But if it was a band I was on the fence about anyway, I'd totally boycott them!

He was investigated for downloading child porn. Laws are different in the UK; he wasn't charged, as many people assume. 11 computers were confiscated from his home and no porn was found. The police told him that they deliberately prolonged the investigation so that any possible victims could come forward. None did.

The point he was trying to make was that credit card companies benefit from people accessing child porn sites, so he logged into a site using his credit card, then logged out. As it turned out, his credit card wasn't charged, although that wasn't determined until much later.

There's a really succinct description of the story in The Who FAQ.

mace1229

Who Princess said:

mace1229 said:

Everyone's got a little hypocrite in them. Didn't Pete Townsend get busted for child porn? I think he claimed it was for research or something. I don't remember all the details and I'm reluctant to google the situation since I'm on a work computer and hesitate to search anything that contains "child pornography" in the search title.

But I've seen them 3 times since that came out and still listen to them. But if it was a band I was on the fence about anyway, I'd totally boycott them!

He was investigated for downloading child porn. Laws are different in the UK; he wasn't charged, as many people assume. 11 computers were confiscated from his home and no porn was found. The police told him that they deliberately prolonged the investigation so that any possible victims could come forward. None did.

The point he was trying to make was that credit card companies benefit from people accessing child porn sites, so he logged into a site using his credit card, then logged out. As it turned out, his credit card wasn't charged, although that wasn't determined until much later.

There's a really succinct description of the story in The Who FAQ.

Thank you for clarifying.It had been a long time since I read any details about it. I wanted to read about it....but as I mentioned didn't want to conduct that search on my work computer.

Still a pretty dumb thing to do with your credit card though.

Who Princess

mace1229 said:

Thank you for clarifying.It had been a long time since I read any details about it. I wanted to read about it....but as I mentioned didn't want to conduct that search on my work computer.

Still a pretty dumb thing to do with your credit card though.

Hell yeah.

The events happened a year or two before he was investigated, like in 1998-99. Using the internet was still new for a lot of people.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

As intolerant as I am of the creeps we refer to in this thread... I always pause when discussing Polanski.

His ordeal before his discretion was out of this world and not that it is an excuse, but his 'victim' doesn't claim to be a victim.

Led Zeppelin dominates the Lounge thread. Do people know Page and Plant's history?

I agree. That is my outlook when it comes to Polanski. He wasn't a predator. It was a different time in a different world with a willing participant who is not a victim. I don't care about the Polanski thing at all. And I love his movies.
Woody Allen appears to be a sicko though (he also makes good movies).

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

As intolerant as I am of the creeps we refer to in this thread... I always pause when discussing Polanski.

His ordeal before his discretion was out of this world and not that it is an excuse, but his 'victim' doesn't claim to be a victim.

Led Zeppelin dominates the Lounge thread. Do people know Page and Plant's history?

I agree. That is my outlook when it comes to Polanski. He wasn't a predator. It was a different time in a different world with a willing participant who is not a victim. I don't care about the Polanski thing at all. And I love his movies.
Woody Allen appears to be a sicko though (he also makes good movies).

Well we're not so far off after all, eh?

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

As intolerant as I am of the creeps we refer to in this thread... I always pause when discussing Polanski.

His ordeal before his discretion was out of this world and not that it is an excuse, but his 'victim' doesn't claim to be a victim.

Led Zeppelin dominates the Lounge thread. Do people know Page and Plant's history?

I agree. That is my outlook when it comes to Polanski. He wasn't a predator. It was a different time in a different world with a willing participant who is not a victim. I don't care about the Polanski thing at all. And I love his movies.
Woody Allen appears to be a sicko though (he also makes good movies).

Well we're not so far off after all, eh?

Not always! I actually think I at least partially agree with you around 50% of the time.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

As intolerant as I am of the creeps we refer to in this thread... I always pause when discussing Polanski.

His ordeal before his discretion was out of this world and not that it is an excuse, but his 'victim' doesn't claim to be a victim.

Led Zeppelin dominates the Lounge thread. Do people know Page and Plant's history?

I agree. That is my outlook when it comes to Polanski. He wasn't a predator. It was a different time in a different world with a willing participant who is not a victim. I don't care about the Polanski thing at all. And I love his movies.
Woody Allen appears to be a sicko though (he also makes good movies).

Well we're not so far off after all, eh?

Not always! I actually think I at least partially agree with you around 50% of the time.

Lol.

You know what's funny? I think that actually sounds accurate.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Whatever is up with them they should be exterminated.

my2hands

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

hedonist said:

Thirty, I think she was 13 at the time? Most kids around that age who've been molested or worse won't see themselves as a victim, more as the perpetrator or somehow responsible.

As to Page...another suspension of disbelief thing, dammit. I don't know but have read some things of him that don't sit well with me. Beyond sitting.

And yet, I'm a sucker for his music and talent.

I can't really rationalize or reconcile it.

I know.

I'm not defending him although it appears as I am. I've seen her in an interview recently and she spoke to her willingness, eagerness, and complicity. She wanted people to forgive Polanski.

Jagger liked the young girls too.

Zeppelin and the Stones are two of my all time favourites.

I guess I'm compromised?

Don't forget Pete Townshend

Thirty Bills Unpaid

my2hands said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

hedonist said:

Thirty, I think she was 13 at the time? Most kids around that age who've been molested or worse won't see themselves as a victim, more as the perpetrator or somehow responsible.

As to Page...another suspension of disbelief thing, dammit. I don't know but have read some things of him that don't sit well with me. Beyond sitting.

And yet, I'm a sucker for his music and talent.

I can't really rationalize or reconcile it.

I know.

I'm not defending him although it appears as I am. I've seen her in an interview recently and she spoke to her willingness, eagerness, and complicity. She wanted people to forgive Polanski.

Jagger liked the young girls too.

Zeppelin and the Stones are two of my all time favourites.

I guess I'm compromised?

Don't forget Pete Townshend

I never forgot about him. I just didn't want Who Princess smacking me.

Who Princess

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

my2hands said:

Don't forget Pete Townshend

I never forgot about him. I just didn't want Who Princess smacking me.

And if you've actually read the whole thread (not too hard since it's only 2 pages), you'll see we've already discussed PT.

rssesq

WORD!

Jason P said:

Woody Allen is to movies what Bob Dylan is to music. I just don't understand the genius people claim to see.

Jason P

A 44 year old man with a ton of influence giving booze and drugs to have sex with a 13 old makes her a willing participant?

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

As intolerant as I am of the creeps we refer to in this thread... I always pause when discussing Polanski.

His ordeal before his discretion was out of this world and not that it is an excuse, but his 'victim' doesn't claim to be a victim.

Led Zeppelin dominates the Lounge thread. Do people know Page and Plant's history?

I agree. That is my outlook when it comes to Polanski. He wasn't a predator. It was a different time in a different world with a willing participant who is not a victim. I don't care about the Polanski thing at all. And I love his movies.
Woody Allen appears to be a sicko though (he also makes good movies).

A 44 year old man with a ton of influence giving booze and drugs to have sex with a 13 old makes her a willing participant?

And why would a willing participant sue Polanski for sexual assault, intentional infliction of emotional distress and seduction?

Hmm ...

rssesq

Polanski is another hwood pedo and they CELEBRATE him in La La land to this day!
And woody? fuhgetaboutit. His peeps gave him a pass too. Imagine havin the condo next door to him and having young children? I'd rather my kids took their chances in gender neutral bathroom in Battery Park after 2:00 am.

OJ's own cheered for him when he was acquitted as well.
It's called, lookin out for own regardless of the charges and it is a bit sickening.

PJ_Soul

Jason P said:

A 44 year old man with a ton of influence giving booze and drugs to have sex with a 13 old makes her a willing participant?

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

As intolerant as I am of the creeps we refer to in this thread... I always pause when discussing Polanski.

His ordeal before his discretion was out of this world and not that it is an excuse, but his 'victim' doesn't claim to be a victim.

Led Zeppelin dominates the Lounge thread. Do people know Page and Plant's history?

I agree. That is my outlook when it comes to Polanski. He wasn't a predator. It was a different time in a different world with a willing participant who is not a victim. I don't care about the Polanski thing at all. And I love his movies.
Woody Allen appears to be a sicko though (he also makes good movies).

A 44 year old man with a ton of influence giving booze and drugs to have sex with a 13 old makes her a willing participant?

And why would a willing participant sue Polanski for sexual assault, intentional infliction of emotional distress and seduction?

Hmm ...

Different time, different world. I trust the woman who has spoken for herself about this. She has stated that she wasn't a victim. Meh.

Jason P

PJ_Soul said:

Jason P said:

A 44 year old man with a ton of influence giving booze and drugs to have sex with a 13 old makes her a willing participant?

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

As intolerant as I am of the creeps we refer to in this thread... I always pause when discussing Polanski.

His ordeal before his discretion was out of this world and not that it is an excuse, but his 'victim' doesn't claim to be a victim.

Led Zeppelin dominates the Lounge thread. Do people know Page and Plant's history?

I agree. That is my outlook when it comes to Polanski. He wasn't a predator. It was a different time in a different world with a willing participant who is not a victim. I don't care about the Polanski thing at all. And I love his movies.
Woody Allen appears to be a sicko though (he also makes good movies).

A 44 year old man with a ton of influence giving booze and drugs to have sex with a 13 old makes her a willing participant?

And why would a willing participant sue Polanski for sexual assault, intentional infliction of emotional distress and seduction?

Hmm ...

Different time, different world. I trust the woman who has spoken for herself about this. She has stated that she wasn't a victim. Meh.

Probably a part of the settlement.

Are you suggesting it was acceptable for 44 year old guys to seduce 13 year old girls in 1977. What are your thoughts on Cosby? Was he just rolling with the times?