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  • NK10452
    NK10452 Posts: 40
    Sorry for the repost -- just trying to do my homework before gametime.

    Questions for the folks in GA (the pit):

    1. How early did it fill up?
    2. How easy/hard was it to move around?
    3. How easy/hard was it go leave to grab beers and return?

    Gracias, amigos. Sounds like last night was great -- looking forward to seeing many of you tonight.
    I'm still alive
  • nycrats
    nycrats Posts: 1,355
    NK10452 said:

    Sorry for the repost -- just trying to do my homework before gametime.

    Questions for the folks in GA (the pit):

    1. How early did it fill up?
    2. How easy/hard was it to move around?
    3. How easy/hard was it go leave to grab beers and return?

    Gracias, amigos. Sounds like last night was great -- looking forward to seeing many of you tonight.

    if you got there at 745 youd have been 10-15th row ish and anytime after you could have plenty of room in the back come and go as you please without much struggle

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  • nycrats
    nycrats Posts: 1,355


    anyone able to make out what song they scratched last night ?
    '98: Camden 1 '00: JB2 '03: MSG1 '04: Boston 1 '05: AC1
    '06: Irving Plaza, East Rutherford 1 & 2 '07: Lolla '08: Camden 2, MSG2, Beacon
    '09 :Philly 1 & 2 '10: Buffalo, Newark, MSG1, MSG2
    '11: PJ20 1 & 2 '12: Missoula '13: Wrigley, BK2, Philly 1 & 2, Hartford
    '14: Ams 1 & 2, Cincy, St Louis, Detroit, Moline '15: Central Park
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  • nycrats
    nycrats Posts: 1,355
    was this the first political endorsement of the 2016 elections?
    '98: Camden 1 '00: JB2 '03: MSG1 '04: Boston 1 '05: AC1
    '06: Irving Plaza, East Rutherford 1 & 2 '07: Lolla '08: Camden 2, MSG2, Beacon
    '09 :Philly 1 & 2 '10: Buffalo, Newark, MSG1, MSG2
    '11: PJ20 1 & 2 '12: Missoula '13: Wrigley, BK2, Philly 1 & 2, Hartford
    '14: Ams 1 & 2, Cincy, St Louis, Detroit, Moline '15: Central Park
    '16 Philly 1 & 2, MSG 1 & 2, Toronto 1 & 2, Fenway 1, Wrigley 1
    '17 Brooklyn hall of fame ‘18 Fenway 1 '21 Jersey Shore '22 MSG  '24: MSG1, MSG2
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,340
    nycrats said:



    anyone able to make out what song they scratched last night ?
    Life wasted. And they forgot to pencil in Whipping after taking it to the streets
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    nycrats said:

    was this the first political endorsement of the 2016 elections?

    I think so..even though Ed said he feels the bern I'm pretty sure his tax bracket supports Hilary.
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • Air23
    Air23 Roma Posts: 1,402
    edited May 2016
    Karts said:

    First set was good
    Second set average at best
    Third set shit and predictable

    Last night would rank near the bottom of my 50+ concerts over the years. They are playing great but PJ for me meant a lot more than musical skill. The passion is gone. They aren't even touring behind albums anymore - and after hearing the last two - that may be a good thing.

    The reality is they're just in a different headspace to me these days and I can't fault them for being older and family men now. I still hold on to every lyric with the same intensity as Eddie 10-15 years ago. It means a lot to me and I can't relate to where they are now, dad rockers performing to reminisce about what was, not about what is.

    And finally, play Avocado you pussies. I love that fucking album, third for me after Yield and Vs. They were so passionate about it when it came out and it showed on stage. To just ignore it entirely a decade (exactly today) later is criminal.

    Well, it is undeniable they are family men. It is also undeniable that there is an abuse of the word "Epic". Now every new show is "epic". However, in the last few years they were still able to play very good shows with "passion".
    Post edited by Air23 on
  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    on2legs said:

    AlaG said:

    I'll preface this by saying I know a lot of people didn't make it in the building, and I'm incredibly grateful to have been one of those who did. That being said, this is #3 for me this year.

    The crowds at Philly 1 and 2 seemed to have sooo much more energy than the crowd tonight, aside from perhaps the "greatest hits" type songs. This may be entirely too subjective. Had a seat in 213, where there were I kid you not 40 or so people directly in front of me who sat through the entire show. Had 10C for both Philly shows.

    Setlist was awesome though. Really stoked to hear Go, Rats, Down, Whipping, The End. Got Release last show but always down to hear it two nights in a row. And like I said, all the mainstays sounded fantastic tonight, particularly Black and Alive. Not a fan of Crown of Thorns being in such heavy rotation these days but the accompanying solo tonight was fantastic.

    Crawling in bed right now to get some rest for tomorrow. Think my lukewarm opinion of tonight relative to the Philly shows might also be influenced by how absolutely drained I am from following this tour. Averaging about 4 hours of sleep/night the past few days.

    While this show ranks near the bottom for me, it's still better than any other non-PJ show I've ever been to. I've had so much fun following this band this year that I'm playing with the idea of selling my MSG Radiohead tickets to go to one more Pearl Jam show instead.

    I went to an amazing concert at Madison Square Garden tonight.

    What concert did you see?
    Also saw an amazing concert last night. I was just expecting a little more excitement in my section. I guess this is what happens when StubHub renders tickets unattainable for most big fans.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,022
    edited May 2016
    I was at the show with 3 people seeing PJ for the first time. All 3 said it was the best concert period they ever saw. Not surprising, of course, but they didn't stop talking about it the whole way home. They all wanted to ditch work today and come back tonight.

    Taking It To The Streets was awesome. I smiled ear to ear through that whole thing. :smiley: Also loved hearing I Got Id and In Hiding. Can't get enough of those two. I was in the 200 level and there was great energy in my section. And it looked like the whole place was going wild. The only time I saw people sit was during The End. I just think people were spent and needed a little break. The rest of the show everyone near me was on their feet.

    See everyone tonight. Gonna be a blast :smiley:
    Post edited by on2legs on
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  • Who I Am
    Who I Am Posts: 661
    KP_McMinn said:

    Karts said:

    First set was good
    Second set average at best
    Third set shit and predictable

    Last night would rank near the bottom of my 50+ concerts over the years. They are playing great but PJ for me meant a lot more than musical skill. The passion is gone. They aren't even touring behind albums anymore - and after hearing the last two - that may be a good thing.

    The reality is they're just in a different headspace to me these days and I can't fault them for being older and family men now. I still hold on to every lyric with the same intensity as Eddie 10-15 years ago. It means a lot to me and I can't relate to where they are now, dad rockers performing to reminisce about what was, not about what is.

    And finally, play Avocado you pussies. I love that fucking album, third for me after Yield and Vs. They were so passionate about it when it came out and it showed on stage. To just ignore it entirely a decade (exactly today) later is criminal.

    good post. Its unfortunately accurate.

    Sorry you missed Philly 2.....you two pussies...LOL!
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,340
    Air23 said:

    Karts said:

    First set was good
    Second set average at best
    Third set shit and predictable

    Last night would rank near the bottom of my 50+ concerts over the years. They are playing great but PJ for me meant a lot more than musical skill. The passion is gone. They aren't even touring behind albums anymore - and after hearing the last two - that may be a good thing.

    The reality is they're just in a different headspace to me these days and I can't fault them for being older and family men now. I still hold on to every lyric with the same intensity as Eddie 10-15 years ago. It means a lot to me and I can't relate to where they are now, dad rockers performing to reminisce about what was, not about what is.

    And finally, play Avocado you pussies. I love that fucking album, third for me after Yield and Vs. They were so passionate about it when it came out and it showed on stage. To just ignore it entirely a decade (exactly today) later is criminal.

    Well, it is undeniable they are family men. It is also undeniable that there is an abuse of the word "Epic". Now every new show is "epic". However, in the last few years they were still able to play very good shows with "passion". This 2016 is different, it seems just a cash-grab.
    Everyone has opinions about setlists and so forth but cash grab? Why because they haven't played strangest tribe, or bugs or some other shit song that should never be played. Sorry but 30-34 songs, 3 hours plus, leaving everything on that stage is not a cash grab. SOOOOO many bands phone it in every night. Tool has toured numerous times without releasing a new album in 10 years. That's a cash grab. I just can't agree with that statement.
  • ladydocNYC
    ladydocNYC Posts: 635

    Dercheef said:

    The show was great, the setlist was great and especially Mike was on fire tonight (probably more than I have ever seen him, his solo during Black was out of this world).
    But I have one problem with this show: The band (or volume) was simply too loud. Imo it was atleast 10% to 20% louder than in Philly and the last 4 MSG shows. The problem with that is, it pretty much drowned out the crowd and took a lot of the crowd energy. I hope they correct this for tomorrows show.
    And during RITFW I was convinced that it was Dhani Harrison on stage. Looks like I was wrong.

    Funny you say that; I thought it was Harrison too. No one I talked too seemed to even notice him ... whoever he was.
    I thought it was Mike's son.
  • NK10452
    NK10452 Posts: 40


    Everyone has opinions about setlists and so forth but cash grab? Why because they haven't played strangest tribe, or bugs or some other shit song that should never be played. Sorry but 30-34 songs, 3 hours plus, leaving everything on that stage is not a cash grab. SOOOOO many bands phone it in every night. Tool has toured numerous times without releasing a new album in 10 years. That's a cash grab. I just can't agree with that statement.

    CO-SIGN. Some of these posts smell very trollish.
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  • Karts
    Karts Posts: 120
    nicknyr15 said:

    Air23 said:

    Karts said:

    First set was good
    Second set average at best
    Third set shit and predictable

    Last night would rank near the bottom of my 50+ concerts over the years. They are playing great but PJ for me meant a lot more than musical skill. The passion is gone. They aren't even touring behind albums anymore - and after hearing the last two - that may be a good thing.

    The reality is they're just in a different headspace to me these days and I can't fault them for being older and family men now. I still hold on to every lyric with the same intensity as Eddie 10-15 years ago. It means a lot to me and I can't relate to where they are now, dad rockers performing to reminisce about what was, not about what is.

    And finally, play Avocado you pussies. I love that fucking album, third for me after Yield and Vs. They were so passionate about it when it came out and it showed on stage. To just ignore it entirely a decade (exactly today) later is criminal.

    Well, it is undeniable they are family men. It is also undeniable that there is an abuse of the word "Epic". Now every new show is "epic". However, in the last few years they were still able to play very good shows with "passion". This 2016 is different, it seems just a cash-grab.
    Everyone has opinions about setlists and so forth but cash grab? Why because they haven't played strangest tribe, or bugs or some other shit song that should never be played. Sorry but 30-34 songs, 3 hours plus, leaving everything on that stage is not a cash grab. SOOOOO many bands phone it in every night. Tool has toured numerous times without releasing a new album in 10 years. That's a cash grab. I just can't agree with that statement.
    Yeah I don't agree it is purely a cash grab, and even if it is, they certainly put in a lot of effort into every show. But there's no feeling or emotion at all, independent of how many bsides they decide to throw in. I would take any two hour set from 03 or even 06 over last night.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    Cant believe the naysayers. . Ive seen lots of PJ, and I think last night was the best since Philly 3 2009.
  • ladydocNYC
    ladydocNYC Posts: 635
    narnia said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    by the way, mccready is on a new level. he is INSANE!!!!! the dude is playing is ass off.

    This!
    The whole band just keeps getting better and better. AMAZING show, I can't find words to describe what it was like to be there.

    BEST. BAND. EVER!
    Agreed. I was in GA and thought the energy of the Garden as electric and frenetic as always. I love that place!
    Mike was truly taking it to places outside this universe. He was stupendous.
    Stone looked like he was having more fun than I've ever seen him. I think it may have been for the cameras. They were filming the whole thing and there was definitely some preening for the cameras.
    It's always interesting to me the vibe in New York, brings out a very different side of Ed's personality. Sorta like he's on his "best" behavior stepping into this very big spotlight. At times I would almost call him slick.
  • ladydocNYC
    ladydocNYC Posts: 635
    My favorite quote of the night by Ed was to the guy having his 26th birthday.... "shit's about to get real."
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,340
    Karts said:

    nicknyr15 said:

    Air23 said:

    Karts said:

    First set was good
    Second set average at best
    Third set shit and predictable

    Last night would rank near the bottom of my 50+ concerts over the years. They are playing great but PJ for me meant a lot more than musical skill. The passion is gone. They aren't even touring behind albums anymore - and after hearing the last two - that may be a good thing.

    The reality is they're just in a different headspace to me these days and I can't fault them for being older and family men now. I still hold on to every lyric with the same intensity as Eddie 10-15 years ago. It means a lot to me and I can't relate to where they are now, dad rockers performing to reminisce about what was, not about what is.

    And finally, play Avocado you pussies. I love that fucking album, third for me after Yield and Vs. They were so passionate about it when it came out and it showed on stage. To just ignore it entirely a decade (exactly today) later is criminal.

    Well, it is undeniable they are family men. It is also undeniable that there is an abuse of the word "Epic". Now every new show is "epic". However, in the last few years they were still able to play very good shows with "passion". This 2016 is different, it seems just a cash-grab.
    Everyone has opinions about setlists and so forth but cash grab? Why because they haven't played strangest tribe, or bugs or some other shit song that should never be played. Sorry but 30-34 songs, 3 hours plus, leaving everything on that stage is not a cash grab. SOOOOO many bands phone it in every night. Tool has toured numerous times without releasing a new album in 10 years. That's a cash grab. I just can't agree with that statement.
    Yeah I don't agree it is purely a cash grab, and even if it is, they certainly put in a lot of effort into every show. But there's no feeling or emotion at all, independent of how many bsides they decide to throw in. I would take any two hour set from 03 or even 06 over last night.
    All good if that's how you feel. But the $$$ they get from these shows is earned with a capital E.
  • shetellsherself
    shetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,835
    nicknyr15 said:

    Karts said:

    nicknyr15 said:

    Air23 said:

    Karts said:

    First set was good
    Second set average at best
    Third set shit and predictable

    Last night would rank near the bottom of my 50+ concerts over the years. They are playing great but PJ for me meant a lot more than musical skill. The passion is gone. They aren't even touring behind albums anymore - and after hearing the last two - that may be a good thing.

    The reality is they're just in a different headspace to me these days and I can't fault them for being older and family men now. I still hold on to every lyric with the same intensity as Eddie 10-15 years ago. It means a lot to me and I can't relate to where they are now, dad rockers performing to reminisce about what was, not about what is.

    And finally, play Avocado you pussies. I love that fucking album, third for me after Yield and Vs. They were so passionate about it when it came out and it showed on stage. To just ignore it entirely a decade (exactly today) later is criminal.

    Well, it is undeniable they are family men. It is also undeniable that there is an abuse of the word "Epic". Now every new show is "epic". However, in the last few years they were still able to play very good shows with "passion". This 2016 is different, it seems just a cash-grab.
    Everyone has opinions about setlists and so forth but cash grab? Why because they haven't played strangest tribe, or bugs or some other shit song that should never be played. Sorry but 30-34 songs, 3 hours plus, leaving everything on that stage is not a cash grab. SOOOOO many bands phone it in every night. Tool has toured numerous times without releasing a new album in 10 years. That's a cash grab. I just can't agree with that statement.
    Yeah I don't agree it is purely a cash grab, and even if it is, they certainly put in a lot of effort into every show. But there's no feeling or emotion at all, independent of how many bsides they decide to throw in. I would take any two hour set from 03 or even 06 over last night.
    All good if that's how you feel. But the $$$ they get from these shows is earned with a capital E.
    And a capital ARNED in bold
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,340

    nicknyr15 said:

    Karts said:

    nicknyr15 said:

    Air23 said:

    Karts said:

    First set was good
    Second set average at best
    Third set shit and predictable

    Last night would rank near the bottom of my 50+ concerts over the years. They are playing great but PJ for me meant a lot more than musical skill. The passion is gone. They aren't even touring behind albums anymore - and after hearing the last two - that may be a good thing.

    The reality is they're just in a different headspace to me these days and I can't fault them for being older and family men now. I still hold on to every lyric with the same intensity as Eddie 10-15 years ago. It means a lot to me and I can't relate to where they are now, dad rockers performing to reminisce about what was, not about what is.

    And finally, play Avocado you pussies. I love that fucking album, third for me after Yield and Vs. They were so passionate about it when it came out and it showed on stage. To just ignore it entirely a decade (exactly today) later is criminal.

    Well, it is undeniable they are family men. It is also undeniable that there is an abuse of the word "Epic". Now every new show is "epic". However, in the last few years they were still able to play very good shows with "passion". This 2016 is different, it seems just a cash-grab.
    Everyone has opinions about setlists and so forth but cash grab? Why because they haven't played strangest tribe, or bugs or some other shit song that should never be played. Sorry but 30-34 songs, 3 hours plus, leaving everything on that stage is not a cash grab. SOOOOO many bands phone it in every night. Tool has toured numerous times without releasing a new album in 10 years. That's a cash grab. I just can't agree with that statement.
    Yeah I don't agree it is purely a cash grab, and even if it is, they certainly put in a lot of effort into every show. But there's no feeling or emotion at all, independent of how many bsides they decide to throw in. I would take any two hour set from 03 or even 06 over last night.
    All good if that's how you feel. But the $$$ they get from these shows is earned with a capital E.
    And a capital ARNED in bold
    Fa real