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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    I am in the .5% class

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  • NCAA will not force the ACC to move its football championship game from Charlotte.

    But I think they will.
    I wonder how much revenue this game actually brings to Charlotte. It's usually poorly attended. Luckily (?) the ACC basketball tourney is in NY this year so that's not an issue. For now.
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  • lolobugg
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    on a sort of related note, here is what happened when Trump showed his ugly face in our city. please note- I don't support violence of any kind.

    http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2016/09/13/boyle-column-asheville-trump-rally-not-our-finest-moment/90297864/

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,390
    edited September 2016
    Good for the ACC...

    ACC Takes Its Biggest Championships Out Of North Carolina, Its Home State

    http://n.pr/2cNVqk3
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    Yeah, we get it. You think this is a silly non-issue. For others it is a big deal or at least interesting, so how about quit trying to be a wet blanket and either add to the discussion or move along. Thanks.
    It is a non issue. How many times have you heard the topic come up in conversation in the last two months? Even on a site where the band cancelled a show? Almost two months and nary a peep.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    Where are all the stories of national outcry on people being denied their right to a restroom based on gender identity? Are Klan and Trump supporters monitoring public restrooms with weapons and checking identification papers? Or is it that no one really gives a hoot!

    The coppers already said they don't give a fuck and wouldn't enforce.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited September 2016
    Jason P said:

    Where are all the stories of national outcry on people being denied their right to a restroom based on gender identity? Are Klan and Trump supporters monitoring public restrooms with weapons and checking identification papers? Or is it that no one really gives a hoot!

    The coppers already said they don't give a fuck and wouldn't enforce.

    I think this offer more reason for the bill to be opposed, not the other way around, as some might argue. Proof that the bill is all about bigotry and not at all about safety.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    Yeah, we get it. You think this is a silly non-issue. For others it is a big deal or at least interesting, so how about quit trying to be a wet blanket and either add to the discussion or move along. Thanks.
    It is a non issue. How many times have you heard the topic come up in conversation in the last two months? Even on a site where the band cancelled a show? Almost two months and nary a peep.
    Why do you care if other people care about this issue? Not enough to do today? Maybe still just a little butthurt that PJ cancelled a show? There are plenty of threads that go dormant for long periods of time, go be the wet blanket police on those threads.

    Wait, nevermind.....someone thinks this thread is silly so I ask that the mods close it down immediately. Nothing more to add or see here folks, move along.

    ;)
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Amusing story, I was at the east Asheville KOA to see Todd Snider during my mountain vacation, and the ladies' room was closed due to bad plumbing. I'm getting a shower after the show and an older fellow comes in and asks me to stay in the shower so his wife can use the toilet and not have to walk across the camp to the other.
    Sure, no problem.

    She comes in, he jokes that I promised to give her a show, we all chuckle.
    He says, "you know, we have a government here that took the time to make a law that says this is illegal."
    He said a little more but I can't remember what because I was lost in thought about how these lovely retirees were literally breaking the law lol
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I like that story, gambo. There are open-minded people of all generations!

    My question to this is, there are showers available for use after concerts?! I'd never heard of this.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    Yeah, we get it. You think this is a silly non-issue. For others it is a big deal or at least interesting, so how about quit trying to be a wet blanket and either add to the discussion or move along. Thanks.
    It is a non issue. How many times have you heard the topic come up in conversation in the last two months? Even on a site where the band cancelled a show? Almost two months and nary a peep.
    Why do you care if other people care about this issue? Not enough to do today? Maybe still just a little butthurt that PJ cancelled a show? There are plenty of threads that go dormant for long periods of time, go be the wet blanket police on those threads.

    Wait, nevermind.....someone thinks this thread is silly so I ask that the mods close it down immediately. Nothing more to add or see here folks, move along.

    ;)
    I am butthurt! Not really, since I didn't have tickets to the show, butt ... I would have been super mega butthurt if I did have tickets and they cancelled because of a "who gets to go to the bathroom" debate. I guarantee these debates do not go on in countries trying to stabilize a potable water network.

    To me it's a "wait, what?" issue. Like finding out that a concert was canceled because the Doozers in Fraggle Rock were not getting equal pay. Technically, PJ could / should cancel just about every concert they have booked if they want to search said city for infractions against political correctness.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    edited September 2016
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    Yeah, we get it. You think this is a silly non-issue. For others it is a big deal or at least interesting, so how about quit trying to be a wet blanket and either add to the discussion or move along. Thanks.
    It is a non issue. How many times have you heard the topic come up in conversation in the last two months? Even on a site where the band cancelled a show? Almost two months and nary a peep.
    Why do you care if other people care about this issue? Not enough to do today? Maybe still just a little butthurt that PJ cancelled a show? There are plenty of threads that go dormant for long periods of time, go be the wet blanket police on those threads.

    Wait, nevermind.....someone thinks this thread is silly so I ask that the mods close it down immediately. Nothing more to add or see here folks, move along.

    ;)
    I am butthurt! Not really, since I didn't have tickets to the show, butt ... I would have been super mega butthurt if I did have tickets and they cancelled because of a "who gets to go to the bathroom" debate. I guarantee these debates do not go on in countries trying to stabilize a potable water network.

    To me it's a "wait, what?" issue. Like finding out that a concert was canceled because the Doozers in Fraggle Rock were not getting equal pay. Technically, PJ could / should cancel just about every concert they have booked if they want to search said city for infractions against political correctness.
    HB2 is not about political correctness ...

    so, the machine has now made being "PC" the latest rallying point for the masses ... i dunno how many times i've read in the last while that people are tired of "PC" ... It's brilliant I suppose because it's working ... as with all the other tactics - conversation isn't really about the issue but rather some loosely related bogeyman ...
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:

    I like that story, gambo. There are open-minded people of all generations!

    My question to this is, there are showers available for use after concerts?! I'd never heard of this.


    The old fella said something about the government should be more concerned with painting yellow lines on the road or something like that, he clearly didn't support the law.

    The showers were at the KOA campground, but venues should totally have showers! Clean up and wait for the crowd to disperse, I would totally use them.
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  • rgambs said:

    Amusing story, I was at the east Asheville KOA to see Todd Snider during my mountain vacation, and the ladies' room was closed due to bad plumbing. I'm getting a shower after the show and an older fellow comes in and asks me to stay in the shower so his wife can use the toilet and not have to walk across the camp to the other.
    Sure, no problem.

    She comes in, he jokes that I promised to give her a show, we all chuckle.
    He says, "you know, we have a government here that took the time to make a law that says this is illegal."
    He said a little more but I can't remember what because I was lost in thought about how these lovely retirees were literally breaking the law lol

    You mean she didn't try and harm you in some way?
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    Yeah, we get it. You think this is a silly non-issue. For others it is a big deal or at least interesting, so how about quit trying to be a wet blanket and either add to the discussion or move along. Thanks.
    It is a non issue. How many times have you heard the topic come up in conversation in the last two months? Even on a site where the band cancelled a show? Almost two months and nary a peep.
    Why do you care if other people care about this issue? Not enough to do today? Maybe still just a little butthurt that PJ cancelled a show? There are plenty of threads that go dormant for long periods of time, go be the wet blanket police on those threads.

    Wait, nevermind.....someone thinks this thread is silly so I ask that the mods close it down immediately. Nothing more to add or see here folks, move along.

    ;)
    I am butthurt! Not really, since I didn't have tickets to the show, butt ... I would have been super mega butthurt if I did have tickets and they cancelled because of a "who gets to go to the bathroom" debate. I guarantee these debates do not go on in countries trying to stabilize a potable water network.

    To me it's a "wait, what?" issue. Like finding out that a concert was canceled because the Doozers in Fraggle Rock were not getting equal pay. Technically, PJ could / should cancel just about every concert they have booked if they want to search said city for infractions against political correctness.
    HB2 is not about political correctness ...

    so, the machine has now made being "PC" the latest rallying point for the masses ... i dunno how many times i've read in the last while that people are tired of "PC" ... It's brilliant I suppose because it's working ... as with all the other tactics - conversation isn't really about the issue but rather some loosely related bogeyman ...
    HB2 is about a very small percentage of people arguing about a made up issue that some how gets entertainment groups deeming it is necessary to fuck over 99.5% of sane people living within the vicinity of state borders. Really? This is the first time that N.C. fucked up that bad to mandate a boycott???

    And it should be considered a beacon of evolutionary achievement that we are now at a point where there is a discussion on where and who gets to poop. Shit is real.
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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    Free said:



    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I agree. But I don't think PJ has the balls to do the same.
    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    Yeah, we get it. You think this is a silly non-issue. For others it is a big deal or at least interesting, so how about quit trying to be a wet blanket and either add to the discussion or move along. Thanks.
    It is a non issue. How many times have you heard the topic come up in conversation in the last two months? Even on a site where the band cancelled a show? Almost two months and nary a peep.
    Why do you care if other people care about this issue? Not enough to do today? Maybe still just a little butthurt that PJ cancelled a show? There are plenty of threads that go dormant for long periods of time, go be the wet blanket police on those threads.

    Wait, nevermind.....someone thinks this thread is silly so I ask that the mods close it down immediately. Nothing more to add or see here folks, move along.

    ;)
    I am butthurt! Not really, since I didn't have tickets to the show, butt ... I would have been super mega butthurt if I did have tickets and they cancelled because of a "who gets to go to the bathroom" debate. I guarantee these debates do not go on in countries trying to stabilize a potable water network.

    To me it's a "wait, what?" issue. Like finding out that a concert was canceled because the Doozers in Fraggle Rock were not getting equal pay. Technically, PJ could / should cancel just about every concert they have booked if they want to search said city for infractions against political correctness.
    HB2 is not about political correctness ...

    so, the machine has now made being "PC" the latest rallying point for the masses ... i dunno how many times i've read in the last while that people are tired of "PC" ... It's brilliant I suppose because it's working ... as with all the other tactics - conversation isn't really about the issue but rather some loosely related bogeyman ...
    HB2 is about a very small percentage of people arguing about a made up issue that some how gets entertainment groups deeming it is necessary to fuck over 99.5% of sane people living within the vicinity of state borders. Really? This is the first time that N.C. fucked up that bad to mandate a boycott???

    And it should be considered a beacon of evolutionary achievement that we are now at a point where there is a discussion on where and who gets to poop. Shit is real.
    People who defend the bill focus on the bathroom issue in an attempt to distract attention from the fact that the bill is actually much worse than just deciding which toilet to use. It's easy to focus on the bathroom issue and then create propaganda that women and daughters are suddenly targets when the actual discriminatory aspect of the bill gets brushed aside.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    Yeah, we get it. You think this is a silly non-issue. For others it is a big deal or at least interesting, so how about quit trying to be a wet blanket and either add to the discussion or move along. Thanks.
    It is a non issue. How many times have you heard the topic come up in conversation in the last two months? Even on a site where the band cancelled a show? Almost two months and nary a peep.
    Why do you care if other people care about this issue? Not enough to do today? Maybe still just a little butthurt that PJ cancelled a show? There are plenty of threads that go dormant for long periods of time, go be the wet blanket police on those threads.

    Wait, nevermind.....someone thinks this thread is silly so I ask that the mods close it down immediately. Nothing more to add or see here folks, move along.

    ;)
    I am butthurt! Not really, since I didn't have tickets to the show, butt ... I would have been super mega butthurt if I did have tickets and they cancelled because of a "who gets to go to the bathroom" debate. I guarantee these debates do not go on in countries trying to stabilize a potable water network.

    To me it's a "wait, what?" issue. Like finding out that a concert was canceled because the Doozers in Fraggle Rock were not getting equal pay. Technically, PJ could / should cancel just about every concert they have booked if they want to search said city for infractions against political correctness.
    I guarantee these debates don't go on in countries where bigoted laws aren't passed by government.
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    edited September 2016
    eddiec said:

    Free said:



    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    Should PJ cancel too? Who has tix?

    Who would this be punishing? You think PJ or Bruce canceling a concert means jack squat to a Billy Ray fan?

    It's a huge message and I bet the people in power might be starting to get it. Actions have consequences.

    Good for Bruce, this takes big balls.
    It's an extremely dumb message with the options Bruce has at his disposal. How about doing a free 60 minute acoustic set at a rally to raise awareness?

    This will cause minimal economic impact to the local economy but will cause major economic impact to his fans who are the one that most likely agree with Bruce's views.

    Dumb.
    This draws huge attention to the cause. Acoustic set wouldn't have done shit, this is action...walking the talk.

    This isn't dumb, it's admirable.
    I agree. But I don't think PJ has the balls to do the same.
    Jason P said:

    polaris_x said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    dignin said:

    Jason P said:

    99.5% of Americans spent 2 seconds thinking of this issue in the last month.

    Yeah, we get it. You think this is a silly non-issue. For others it is a big deal or at least interesting, so how about quit trying to be a wet blanket and either add to the discussion or move along. Thanks.
    It is a non issue. How many times have you heard the topic come up in conversation in the last two months? Even on a site where the band cancelled a show? Almost two months and nary a peep.
    Why do you care if other people care about this issue? Not enough to do today? Maybe still just a little butthurt that PJ cancelled a show? There are plenty of threads that go dormant for long periods of time, go be the wet blanket police on those threads.

    Wait, nevermind.....someone thinks this thread is silly so I ask that the mods close it down immediately. Nothing more to add or see here folks, move along.

    ;)
    I am butthurt! Not really, since I didn't have tickets to the show, butt ... I would have been super mega butthurt if I did have tickets and they cancelled because of a "who gets to go to the bathroom" debate. I guarantee these debates do not go on in countries trying to stabilize a potable water network.

    To me it's a "wait, what?" issue. Like finding out that a concert was canceled because the Doozers in Fraggle Rock were not getting equal pay. Technically, PJ could / should cancel just about every concert they have booked if they want to search said city for infractions against political correctness.
    HB2 is not about political correctness ...

    so, the machine has now made being "PC" the latest rallying point for the masses ... i dunno how many times i've read in the last while that people are tired of "PC" ... It's brilliant I suppose because it's working ... as with all the other tactics - conversation isn't really about the issue but rather some loosely related bogeyman ...
    HB2 is about a very small percentage of people arguing about a made up issue that some how gets entertainment groups deeming it is necessary to fuck over 99.5% of sane people living within the vicinity of state borders. Really? This is the first time that N.C. fucked up that bad to mandate a boycott???

    And it should be considered a beacon of evolutionary achievement that we are now at a point where there is a discussion on where and who gets to poop. Shit is real.
    People who defend the bill focus on the bathroom issue in an attempt to distract attention from the fact that the bill is actually much worse than just deciding which toilet to use. It's easy to focus on the bathroom issue and then create propaganda that women and daughters are suddenly targets when the actual discriminatory aspect of the bill gets brushed aside.
    thank you for saying what I wanted to.... the whole bathroom issue is just a distraction from the fact that the legislation strips personal rights from every North Carolinian and also dictates what the minimum wage is statewide. It is the worst bill ever put thru in our modern government. it sets this state back 50 years.

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    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195

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    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore