Is the USA a nation of bigots and/or racists and/or idiots and hypocrites?

Merkin Baller

JC29856 said:

There have been more death threats against trump in 8 days then Obama in 8 years.
Fbi secret service

I haven't heard about any death threats against Trump, but I may not be reading the right news.

What's your source for this info? I would like to read it.

Go Beavers

PJPOWER said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

There have been more death threats against trump in 8 days then Obama in 8 years.
Fbi secret service

Makes sense... Democrats as a whole are more violent than Republicans.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/amp/

another case of "let's google something worded to reinforce what I already believe".

If you haven't noticed, I am really trying to rile up the crowd that are making broad generalizations about Trump voters by mimicking them. If the argument posted in the link that I posted are invalid, then so are the ones being made from many left leaning individuals in these forums against Trump voters without an ounce of scientific data. Hypocrisy awareness if you will. I think you actually said something about that earlier. The bait is clearly being taken by "some" of the biggest perpetrators of this hypocrisy around here.

There's actual scientific data that shows conservatives hold prejudice beliefs more than liberals.

I don't doubt that, but "all" is where my feathers get ruffled. There are plenty of dumbass liberals and plenty of dumbass conservatives. These forums hold a mixture of liberals and conservatives and I have seen many people around that didn't vote for Clinton get labeled as racist and prejudice. I think most intelligent people vote strategically, not based on racist rhetoric or emotion. I doubt there are truly very many racist bigots around here and you are sure as hell not going to get their views to align with yours by calling them that. The same applies with this "white males are bad" bullshit, but I guess I'm just offended because of my "white privilege", not because that type of rhetoric is essentially the most race baiting type of crap I've witnessed around here.

I've rarely see "all" used. And I've never seen more emotionally based decisions around voting than I have in this election. Trump just conned and manipulated millions of people. This was all played out and outlined in discussions in here for the last several months. Also, there are (were) blatant racists in here, and pointing out white privilege isn't race baiting, it's a fact.

HughFreakingDillon

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

There have been more death threats against trump in 8 days then Obama in 8 years.
Fbi secret service

Makes sense... Democrats as a whole are more violent than Republicans.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/amp/

another case of "let's google something worded to reinforce what I already believe".

If you haven't noticed, I am really trying to rile up the crowd that are making broad generalizations about Trump voters by mimicking them. If the argument posted in the link that I posted are invalid, then so are the ones being made from many left leaning individuals in these forums against Trump voters without an ounce of scientific data. Hypocrisy awareness if you will. I think you actually said something about that earlier. The bait is clearly being taken by "some" of the biggest perpetrators of this hypocrisy around here.

There's actual scientific data that shows conservatives hold prejudice beliefs more than liberals.

yes, but some are claiming ALL trump voters are racists, which just isn't true whatsoever.

case in point: Uncle #1 is a very reasonable man, a guy I like, and I know is not racist in the least. he was hoping for Trump. Uncle #2, a complete douchebag that most in the family don't even like, racist AF, and he hated Trump.

voice of reason

i definitely know people like this too

Me too. Get uncle number 1 talking about how he voted for a bigot and how he made trumps policies, which are grounded in prejudice, okay in his mind, and you might be surprised.

but like I have said, people take from a candidate what they want to see (less corruption) and ignore the rest (fear mongering boderline racism). I would argue that it's quite possible the majority of people who voted trump did so for the simple reason they bought into his "drain the swamp" message. and quite simply cast aside his rhetoric as stuff coming from a guy who simply "shot from the hip", and wasn't legimately hateful of certain groups of people.

Go Beavers

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

There have been more death threats against trump in 8 days then Obama in 8 years.
Fbi secret service

Makes sense... Democrats as a whole are more violent than Republicans.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/amp/

another case of "let's google something worded to reinforce what I already believe".

If you haven't noticed, I am really trying to rile up the crowd that are making broad generalizations about Trump voters by mimicking them. If the argument posted in the link that I posted are invalid, then so are the ones being made from many left leaning individuals in these forums against Trump voters without an ounce of scientific data. Hypocrisy awareness if you will. I think you actually said something about that earlier. The bait is clearly being taken by "some" of the biggest perpetrators of this hypocrisy around here.

There's actual scientific data that shows conservatives hold prejudice beliefs more than liberals.

yes, but some are claiming ALL trump voters are racists, which just isn't true whatsoever.

case in point: Uncle #1 is a very reasonable man, a guy I like, and I know is not racist in the least. he was hoping for Trump. Uncle #2, a complete douchebag that most in the family don't even like, racist AF, and he hated Trump.

voice of reason

i definitely know people like this too

Me too. Get uncle number 1 talking about how he voted for a bigot and how he made trumps policies, which are grounded in prejudice, okay in his mind, and you might be surprised.

but like I have said, people take from a candidate what they want to see (less corruption) and ignore the rest (fear mongering boderline racism). I would argue that it's quite possible the majority of people who voted trump did so for the simple reason they bought into his "drain the swamp" message. and quite simply cast aside his rhetoric as stuff coming from a guy who simply "shot from the hip", and wasn't legimately hateful of certain groups of people.

Agree that some of the more sound minded voters may have looked at it that way, but with a lot, you peel back the layers and sometimes you find things out. They had to go through a process of minimization of his prejudicial policies. This usually means adopting certain beliefs about those of a different culture and race.

PP193448

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

There have been more death threats against trump in 8 days then Obama in 8 years.
Fbi secret service

Makes sense... Democrats as a whole are more violent than Republicans.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/amp/

another case of "let's google something worded to reinforce what I already believe".

If you haven't noticed, I am really trying to rile up the crowd that are making broad generalizations about Trump voters by mimicking them. If the argument posted in the link that I posted are invalid, then so are the ones being made from many left leaning individuals in these forums against Trump voters without an ounce of scientific data. Hypocrisy awareness if you will. I think you actually said something about that earlier. The bait is clearly being taken by "some" of the biggest perpetrators of this hypocrisy around here.

There's actual scientific data that shows conservatives hold prejudice beliefs more than liberals.

yes, but some are claiming ALL trump voters are racists, which just isn't true whatsoever.

case in point: Uncle #1 is a very reasonable man, a guy I like, and I know is not racist in the least. he was hoping for Trump. Uncle #2, a complete douchebag that most in the family don't even like, racist AF, and he hated Trump.

voice of reason

i definitely know people like this too

Me too. Get uncle number 1 talking about how he voted for a bigot and how he made trumps policies, which are grounded in prejudice, okay in his mind, and you might be surprised.

but like I have said, people take from a candidate what they want to see (less corruption) and ignore the rest (fear mongering boderline racism). I would argue that it's quite possible the majority of people who voted trump did so for the simple reason they bought into his "drain the swamp" message. and quite simply cast aside his rhetoric as stuff coming from a guy who simply "shot from the hip", and wasn't legimately hateful of certain groups of people.

Unless you completely agree with every one of a candidates viewpoints, which makes you far right or left wing, then you pick and chose which specific issues are prioritized for you. It's hard to be in the middle because there are issues that I agree with on both sides. So how do I vote?? If I voted Trump I'm a racist. If I voted for Hilary, then I condone corrupt government. There are too many gray zones, not just black and white (not being racial here ). Trying to label people because of their voting record is ridiculous. Then I guess I would be 1/2 democrat 1/2 republican. So I'm a pro LBGT, anti big corrupt government, pro vetting, don't build a wall but control illegal immigration, fix the fleecing of America by corp and lazy people gaming the system, pro environment voter... i think lots of people in the middle don't even vote, because there's no one to fit any mold there, at least none that actually make it thru the primaries. Someone like Rand Paul would never stand a chance. He makes too much common sense.

Go Beavers

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

There have been more death threats against trump in 8 days then Obama in 8 years.
Fbi secret service

Makes sense... Democrats as a whole are more violent than Republicans.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/amp/

another case of "let's google something worded to reinforce what I already believe".

If you haven't noticed, I am really trying to rile up the crowd that are making broad generalizations about Trump voters by mimicking them. If the argument posted in the link that I posted are invalid, then so are the ones being made from many left leaning individuals in these forums against Trump voters without an ounce of scientific data. Hypocrisy awareness if you will. I think you actually said something about that earlier. The bait is clearly being taken by "some" of the biggest perpetrators of this hypocrisy around here.

There's actual scientific data that shows conservatives hold prejudice beliefs more than liberals.

yes, but some are claiming ALL trump voters are racists, which just isn't true whatsoever.

case in point: Uncle #1 is a very reasonable man, a guy I like, and I know is not racist in the least. he was hoping for Trump. Uncle #2, a complete douchebag that most in the family don't even like, racist AF, and he hated Trump.

voice of reason

i definitely know people like this too

Me too. Get uncle number 1 talking about how he voted for a bigot and how he made trumps policies, which are grounded in prejudice, okay in his mind, and you might be surprised.

but like I have said, people take from a candidate what they want to see (less corruption) and ignore the rest (fear mongering boderline racism). I would argue that it's quite possible the majority of people who voted trump did so for the simple reason they bought into his "drain the swamp" message. and quite simply cast aside his rhetoric as stuff coming from a guy who simply "shot from the hip", and wasn't legimately hateful of certain groups of people.

Unless you completely agree with every one of a candidates viewpoints, which makes you far right or left wing, then you pick and chose which specific issues are prioritized for you. It's hard to be in the middle because there are issues that I agree with on both sides. So how do I vote?? If I voted Trump I'm a racist. If I voted for Hilary, then I condone corrupt government. There are too many gray zones, not just black and white (not being racial here ). Trying to label people because of their voting record is ridiculous. Then I guess I would be 1/2 democrat 1/2 republican. So I'm a pro LBGT, anti big corrupt government, pro vetting, don't build a wall, fix the fleecing of America by corp and lazy people gaming the system, pro environment voter...

You think Hillary is far left?

PP193448

Go Beavers said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

There have been more death threats against trump in 8 days then Obama in 8 years.
Fbi secret service

Makes sense... Democrats as a whole are more violent than Republicans.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/amp/

another case of "let's google something worded to reinforce what I already believe".

If you haven't noticed, I am really trying to rile up the crowd that are making broad generalizations about Trump voters by mimicking them. If the argument posted in the link that I posted are invalid, then so are the ones being made from many left leaning individuals in these forums against Trump voters without an ounce of scientific data. Hypocrisy awareness if you will. I think you actually said something about that earlier. The bait is clearly being taken by "some" of the biggest perpetrators of this hypocrisy around here.

There's actual scientific data that shows conservatives hold prejudice beliefs more than liberals.

yes, but some are claiming ALL trump voters are racists, which just isn't true whatsoever.

case in point: Uncle #1 is a very reasonable man, a guy I like, and I know is not racist in the least. he was hoping for Trump. Uncle #2, a complete douchebag that most in the family don't even like, racist AF, and he hated Trump.

voice of reason

i definitely know people like this too

Me too. Get uncle number 1 talking about how he voted for a bigot and how he made trumps policies, which are grounded in prejudice, okay in his mind, and you might be surprised.

but like I have said, people take from a candidate what they want to see (less corruption) and ignore the rest (fear mongering boderline racism). I would argue that it's quite possible the majority of people who voted trump did so for the simple reason they bought into his "drain the swamp" message. and quite simply cast aside his rhetoric as stuff coming from a guy who simply "shot from the hip", and wasn't legimately hateful of certain groups of people.

Unless you completely agree with every one of a candidates viewpoints, which makes you far right or left wing, then you pick and chose which specific issues are prioritized for you. It's hard to be in the middle because there are issues that I agree with on both sides. So how do I vote?? If I voted Trump I'm a racist. If I voted for Hilary, then I condone corrupt government. There are too many gray zones, not just black and white (not being racial here ). Trying to label people because of their voting record is ridiculous. Then I guess I would be 1/2 democrat 1/2 republican. So I'm a pro LBGT, anti big corrupt government, pro vetting, don't build a wall, fix the fleecing of America by corp and lazy people gaming the system, pro environment voter...

You think Hillary is far left?

No. But I personally don't think she would have done much to fix problems in government, because she is one of the problems herself. Bernie was too far left.

PP193448

I don't want Trump or Hilary as president. I would have voted Rand Paul, so I guess I'm in the middle leaning slightly to the right

Go Beavers

PP193448 said:

Go Beavers said:

PP193448 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

pjalive21 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

JC29856 said:

There have been more death threats against trump in 8 days then Obama in 8 years.
Fbi secret service

Makes sense... Democrats as a whole are more violent than Republicans.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/amp/

another case of "let's google something worded to reinforce what I already believe".

If you haven't noticed, I am really trying to rile up the crowd that are making broad generalizations about Trump voters by mimicking them. If the argument posted in the link that I posted are invalid, then so are the ones being made from many left leaning individuals in these forums against Trump voters without an ounce of scientific data. Hypocrisy awareness if you will. I think you actually said something about that earlier. The bait is clearly being taken by "some" of the biggest perpetrators of this hypocrisy around here.

There's actual scientific data that shows conservatives hold prejudice beliefs more than liberals.

yes, but some are claiming ALL trump voters are racists, which just isn't true whatsoever.

case in point: Uncle #1 is a very reasonable man, a guy I like, and I know is not racist in the least. he was hoping for Trump. Uncle #2, a complete douchebag that most in the family don't even like, racist AF, and he hated Trump.

voice of reason

i definitely know people like this too

Me too. Get uncle number 1 talking about how he voted for a bigot and how he made trumps policies, which are grounded in prejudice, okay in his mind, and you might be surprised.

but like I have said, people take from a candidate what they want to see (less corruption) and ignore the rest (fear mongering boderline racism). I would argue that it's quite possible the majority of people who voted trump did so for the simple reason they bought into his "drain the swamp" message. and quite simply cast aside his rhetoric as stuff coming from a guy who simply "shot from the hip", and wasn't legimately hateful of certain groups of people.

Unless you completely agree with every one of a candidates viewpoints, which makes you far right or left wing, then you pick and chose which specific issues are prioritized for you. It's hard to be in the middle because there are issues that I agree with on both sides. So how do I vote?? If I voted Trump I'm a racist. If I voted for Hilary, then I condone corrupt government. There are too many gray zones, not just black and white (not being racial here ). Trying to label people because of their voting record is ridiculous. Then I guess I would be 1/2 democrat 1/2 republican. So I'm a pro LBGT, anti big corrupt government, pro vetting, don't build a wall, fix the fleecing of America by corp and lazy people gaming the system, pro environment voter...

You think Hillary is far left?

No. But I personally don't think she would have done much to fix problems in government, because she is one of the problems herself. Bernie was too far left.

Sanders fit the label of the rights slogan about "common sense" the best. He also seems to match your positions on things you listed in your earlier post

unsung

Bentleyspop said:

Twitter suspends alt-right accounts
Jessica Guynn , USA TODAY 5:19 a.m. EST November 16, 2016

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news ... /93943194/

Twitter released a new set of tools on Tuesday that could finally stop the unregulated craziness that happens on Twitter. The 'Mute Words' feature gives the user the ability to mute certain words, phrases, hashtags, emojis, or usernames.

SAN FRANCISCO — Twitter suspended a number of accounts associated with the alt-right movement, the same day the social media service said it would crack down on hate speech.

Among those suspended was Richard Spencer, who runs an alt-right think tank and had a verified account on Twitter.

The alt-right, a loosely organized group that espouses white nationalism, emerged as a counterpoint to mainstream conservatism and has flourished online. Spencer has said he wants blacks, Asians, Hispanics and Jews removed from the U.S.

Twitter on Tuesday removed Spencer's verified account, @RichardBSpencer, that of his think tank, the National Policy Institute @npiamerica, and his online magazine @radixjournal.

"This is corporate Stalinism," Spencer told The Daily Caller News Foundation. In a YouTube video, entitled Knight of the Long Knives, an apparent reference to the purge of Nazi leaders in 1934 to consolidate Adolf Hitler's power, Spencer said Twitter had engaged in a coordinated effort to wipe out alt-right Twitter.

"I am alive physically but digitally speaking there has been execution squads across the alt right," he said. "There is a great purge going on and they are purging people based on their views."

Twitter declined to comment on the suspensions, which included the accounts of Paul Town, Pax Dickinson, Ricky Vaughn and John Rivers.

This is bullshit, but twitter has been banning peoole for quite some time that won't play nice with leftist crazies.

rgambs

unsung said:

Bentleyspop said:

Twitter suspends alt-right accounts
Jessica Guynn , USA TODAY 5:19 a.m. EST November 16, 2016

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news ... /93943194/

Twitter released a new set of tools on Tuesday that could finally stop the unregulated craziness that happens on Twitter. The 'Mute Words' feature gives the user the ability to mute certain words, phrases, hashtags, emojis, or usernames.

SAN FRANCISCO — Twitter suspended a number of accounts associated with the alt-right movement, the same day the social media service said it would crack down on hate speech.

Among those suspended was Richard Spencer, who runs an alt-right think tank and had a verified account on Twitter.

The alt-right, a loosely organized group that espouses white nationalism, emerged as a counterpoint to mainstream conservatism and has flourished online. Spencer has said he wants blacks, Asians, Hispanics and Jews removed from the U.S.

Twitter on Tuesday removed Spencer's verified account, @RichardBSpencer, that of his think tank, the National Policy Institute @npiamerica, and his online magazine @radixjournal.

"This is corporate Stalinism," Spencer told The Daily Caller News Foundation. In a YouTube video, entitled Knight of the Long Knives, an apparent reference to the purge of Nazi leaders in 1934 to consolidate Adolf Hitler's power, Spencer said Twitter had engaged in a coordinated effort to wipe out alt-right Twitter.

"I am alive physically but digitally speaking there has been execution squads across the alt right," he said. "There is a great purge going on and they are purging people based on their views."

Twitter declined to comment on the suspensions, which included the accounts of Paul Town, Pax Dickinson, Ricky Vaughn and John Rivers.

This is bullshit, but twitter has been banning peoole for quite some time that won't play nice with leftist crazies.

Hahaha damn leftist crazies. Always talking crazy talk about Corporate Stalinism and the Knight of the Long Knives and the elimination of the white race.
Oh. Oops.
Not leftist.

Jason P

If he could have run for a third term, do you think Obama would have won? I think so.

HughFreakingDillon

Jason P said:

If he could have run for a third term, do you think Obama would have won? I think so.

I think so, but most of us also thought HC would win in a landslide, so who knows.

OffSheGoes35

Jon Stewart on President-elect Trump, hypocrisy in America
https://youtu.be/mUkv_jPgTeg

vaggar99

i'd say almost everyone harbors some fear/bigotry. i personally fear orange faced perverts.

hedonist

At the Museum of Tolerance here, visitors are given a choice to enter one of two doors, one of which is labeled "no prejudices".

No entry on that one.

JimmyV

We elected the King of the Birthers to be President and he named the head of Exxon to be Secretary of State. Difficult to argue against any of those charges in the thread title going forward. Looks like the answer across the board is yes.

vaggar99

JimmyV said:

We elected the King of the Birthers to be President and he named the head of Exxon to be Secretary of State. Difficult to argue against any of those charges in the thread title going forward. Looks like the answer across the board is yes.

if you supported the Birther Movement, you aren't racist, you're just a freakin idiot and you're lucky vaggar99 isn't pres. cuz, i would have an idiot test. Pass the test! Pass the test!

JC29856

Maybe add attention seeking hoaxing liars...

Go Beavers

Head in the sand, JC?