Pearl Jam's 1000th Performance?
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Did you add this to the list. It's no longer quebec for those who thought it was.
Pearl Jam came out to the north shore of Oahu, Hawaii just after I won my 8th world surfing title. They played a private show for about 3-400 people at Waimea a couple nights before their own gig and opening a show for U2. Quote Kelly slater0 -
This was on the list in my calculation.MK88178 said:Did you add this to the list. It's no longer quebec for those who thought it was.
Pearl Jam came out to the north shore of Oahu, Hawaii just after I won my 8th world surfing title. They played a private show for about 3-400 people at Waimea a couple nights before their own gig and opening a show for U2. Quote Kelly slater0 -
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.Red Mosqito said:
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.BS44325 said:Good article from Alternative Nation with mention of coming 1000th show in 5th paragraph
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Just imagine the Pearl Jam gig poster for Quebec City mentions that it's Pearl Jam's 1000th show?0
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We have no idea what PJ 1000th show will be... or if it's happened.* There have been shows they kept on the DL (like the Oracle thing) and there's probably more early promo mini-sets we don't know about. I'm more excited that they are still around playing 3+ hour shows than that they hit 1000.
*If everything was recorded as some have claimed, then someone at basecamp could figure it out.Post edited by RE4790 on0 -
There have been many discrepancies in regards to Pearl Jam’s shows over the years, even on their own site. There’s been inconsistencies as to what shows should are counted….were they an Eddie solo show, full band, private get together, a radio show, etc. We at Livefootsteps may go by a different count from other sites but we look to include live shows with an audience (a performance if you want to use that word). We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit. We aren’t sure why Eddie believed the Europe 2014 tour included their 1000th show, but by all accounts, that does not appear to be accurate. Maybe he was counting solo shows in that count.BS44325 said:
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.Red Mosqito said:
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.BS44325 said:Good article from Alternative Nation with mention of coming 1000th show in 5th paragraph
http://www.alternativenation.net/given-to-fly-25-years-of-pearl-jam/
We're all about live performances, but we are just fans like you guys, and we don’t claim to be an authoritative figure….we certainly aren't perfect. We are in the process of removing some shows that were previously billed by other sources as a full band show (but should be counted as an Eddie solo show) and in the future we plan to move these to a subset within the site. Though our numbers aren't currently reflecting the removal of these misbilled shows, we are also missing an equal amount of full band shows and thus still brings the 1000th show to be Quebec City 2016 by our calculations. No one site is perfect, we understand this and sometime in the future another show may come to light shifting all we know. For now, we agree with you BS44325, that May 5th, 2016 will be the show.
Dave
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Wow Dave...much thanks for the thoughtful response. Livefootsteps has been an invaluable resource in nailing down this 1000th performance and I appreciate you taking the time to look into the data. Keep up the great work at livefootsteps and if you happen to come across anything that does shift the calculus by all means let us know!davejt said:
There have been many discrepancies in regards to Pearl Jam’s shows over the years, even on their own site. There’s been inconsistencies as to what shows should are counted….were they an Eddie solo show, full band, private get together, a radio show, etc. We at Livefootsteps may go by a different count from other sites but we look to include live shows with an audience (a performance if you want to use that word). We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit. We aren’t sure why Eddie believed the Europe 2014 tour included their 1000th show, but by all accounts, that does not appear to be accurate. Maybe he was counting solo shows in that count.BS44325 said:
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.Red Mosqito said:
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.BS44325 said:Good article from Alternative Nation with mention of coming 1000th show in 5th paragraph
http://www.alternativenation.net/given-to-fly-25-years-of-pearl-jam/
We're all about live performances, but we are just fans like you guys, and we don’t claim to be an authoritative figure….we certainly aren't perfect. We are in the process of removing some shows that were previously billed by other sources as a full band show (but should be counted as an Eddie solo show) and in the future we plan to move these to a subset within the site. Though our numbers aren't currently reflecting the removal of these misbilled shows, we are also missing an equal amount of full band shows and thus still brings the 1000th show to be Quebec City 2016 by our calculations. No one site is perfect, we understand this and sometime in the future another show may come to light shifting all we know. For now, we agree with you BS44325, that May 5th, 2016 will be the show.
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I think the big conclusion is you need to agree on a method and then apply as everyone looks at it different. As, example using the criteria of EV playing with 1 other band member I assume 10-16-92 (Dylan Tribute with Mike) is in the count though they played 1 song. If that is the case then a show like 4-8-08 which was EV solo show but Mike played 2 songs with him is that in the count? What about Boom if he played with EV does that count? What about 9-21-01 because it included non-member as well it doesn't count? Maybe the new qualification is who was "billed" and if more then 1 member it counts and can't include another performer? Just having some fun......and great site Dave!davejt said:
We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit.BS44325 said:
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.Red Mosqito said:
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.BS44325 said:Good article from Alternative Nation with mention of coming 1000th show in 5th paragraph
http://www.alternativenation.net/given-to-fly-25-years-of-pearl-jam/
SHOW COUNT: (170) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=114, US=124, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
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From my understanding, and maybe Dave can clarify, is that those shows were included in the livefootsteps initial count but now that he's gone back and looked it over those shows will eventually be transferred to a different subsection. To be clear, my count did NOT include Ed solos performances or performances where it was Eddie with just one or two other people. I weeded those performances out of the livefootsteps count and added back on performances that were missed. When you do this total performance number to date still comes back to 985.Indifference said:
I think the big conclusion is you need to agree on a method and then apply as everyone looks at it different. As, example using the criteria of EV playing with 1 other band member I assume 10-16-92 (Dylan Tribute with Mike) is in the count though they played 1 song. If that is the case then a show like 4-8-08 which was EV solo show but Mike played 2 songs with him is that in the count? What about Boom if he played with EV does that count? What about 9-21-01 because it included non-member as well it doesn't count? Maybe the new qualification is who was "billed" and if more then 1 member it counts and can't include another performer? Just having some fun......and great site Dave!davejt said:
We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit.BS44325 said:
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.Red Mosqito said:
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.BS44325 said:Good article from Alternative Nation with mention of coming 1000th show in 5th paragraph
http://www.alternativenation.net/given-to-fly-25-years-of-pearl-jam/0 -
BS44325,BS44325 said:
From my understanding, and maybe Dave can clarify, is that those shows were included in the livefootsteps initial count but now that he's gone back and looked it over those shows will eventually be transferred to a different subsection. To be clear, my count did NOT include Ed solos performances or performances where it was Eddie with just one or two other people. I weeded those performances out of the livefootsteps count and added back on performances that were missed. When you do this total performance number to date still comes back to 985.Indifference said:
I think the big conclusion is you need to agree on a method and then apply as everyone looks at it different. As, example using the criteria of EV playing with 1 other band member I assume 10-16-92 (Dylan Tribute with Mike) is in the count though they played 1 song. If that is the case then a show like 4-8-08 which was EV solo show but Mike played 2 songs with him is that in the count? What about Boom if he played with EV does that count? What about 9-21-01 because it included non-member as well it doesn't count? Maybe the new qualification is who was "billed" and if more then 1 member it counts and can't include another performer? Just having some fun......and great site Dave!davejt said:
We count where Eddie played with at least one other band member, be it a tribute show, arena show, or a benefit.BS44325 said:
The author used livefootsteps.org which was one of the sites in my cross-referencing.Red Mosqito said:
If we as a community can't agree or come to the definitive number of shows they've played what makes the author of that article a subject matter expert on it? More than likely he probably used this thread as his source for that paragraph.BS44325 said:Good article from Alternative Nation with mention of coming 1000th show in 5th paragraph
http://www.alternativenation.net/given-to-fly-25-years-of-pearl-jam/
That's correct we have about 5 shows that we have to find the chance to move out into a Eddie solos page. But at the same time we have 5 shows that should have been counted. It's quite a daunting task with the tour coming up to take on that task of swaping out the shows needed. I want it to be as seamless as possible so everyone keeps their correct shows they've attended without asking everyone to renter their shows. If you have different numbers please let us know. We do this for the love of the band, sadly not my only job and there's never enough time to do what is needed.
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Just got my confirmation email for performance 10000
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After Ft. Lauderdale there have been 986 total performances.0
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After Miami there have been 987 total performances.0
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The countdown continues...
After Jacksonville there have been 989 total performances.0 -
I was listening to pj radio the other day and ed said "I hear this is our 999th show" and I think it was from 2014. It made me think of this thread. Anyone else catch that on oj radio?
Does anyone know if the band cares? Its cool if it's important to the fan but what about the band?
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I don't think the band cares and doubt it will be mentioned...this is just based on fan curiosity. The show you mentioned has been discussed if you read through the thread and the math just doesn't add up to support Ed's statement.JC29856 said:I was listening to pj radio the other day and ed said "I hear this is our 999th show" and I think it was from 2014. It made me think of this thread. Anyone else catch that on oj radio?
Does anyone know if the band cares? Its cool if it's important to the fan but what about the band?
Thanks0
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