Sean Penn's 'interview' with El Chapo

2-feign-reluctance

Nothing cool about it. I can't quite eloquently explain why I am not impressed or why I think he's just a little more douche-y with this latest stunt.

Empty Glass

I agree 100%, but then I think about journalists that met with Bin Laden. Key word is journalists I guess, but the Penn thing seems douchey

PureandEasy

It served one purpose, to further inflate the ego of a man who is a self-obsessed, evil, arrogant murderer of God knows how many people.

You know, the stuff Hollywood thrives on.

He'll get his wish, there will be a movie about him.

Indifference71

Sean Penn is an asshole.

Cliffy6745

Indifference71 said:

Sean Penn is an asshole.

Bingo

PJfanwillneverleave1

I think it was fantastic that he was able to pull it off. The lengths some actors go through for their research is incredible.
It might be a big screen movie or a Netflix type documentary.
Either way it will be a very intriguing look into a sinister underworld and the ruler of it all.
Can't wait !

Cliffy6745

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

I think it was fantastic that he was able to pull it off. The lengths some actors go through for their research is incredible.
It might be a big screen movie or a Netflix type documentary.
Either way it will be a very intriguing look into a sinister underworld and the ruler of it all.
Can't wait !

I get the allure of drug dealers, I fall for it too, but this is complete bullshit. Dude is serving as a propaganda machine for one of the most violent men in the world who is responsible for thousands of deaths.

Fuck Sean penn

Cliffy6745

While Sean Penn hangs out with him and provides the cartel leader final say on the story, this is what real journalists face

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/censor-or-die-the-death-of-mexican-news-in-the-age-of-drug-cartels/2015/12/09/23acf3ae-8a26-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html

rgambs

They wouldn't have found him if it wasn't for Penn's interview it turns out!

HesCalledDyer

Sean Penn found him before our top agents did. Think about that for a sec.

hedonist

I think he was more "findable" due to his lust to have a film made about him. Penn - from what I've read - did nothing special, could've been anyone.

As someone else mentioned, ego. Big motherfucking ego but, trying to hide behind a passive-aggressive curtain.

InHiding80

Penn is the liberal Ted Nugent. They're both jackasses who need to zip it.

I'm so glad Charlize dumped him.

PJfanwillneverleave1

InHiding80 said:

Penn is the liberal Ted Nugent. They're both jackasses who need to zip it.

I'm so glad Charlize dumped him.

No one cares about his ex.

2-feign-reluctance

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/01/11/462390288/anatomy-of-addiction-how-heroin-and-opioids-hijack-the-brain

I understand Mexico's bad economy - and long history with turning to drug manufacture/selling for a living. Desperation leads people down some dark paths, but what about the alternative? What about choosing another way that doesn't destroy the living slowly and kill at moment's notice? Chapo's interview answers are nothing - there's nothing romantic about them, or him. As for Penn....

Wma31394

Not sure why everyone doesn't like him..he's basically been rebuilding Haiti with his own two hands..

tempo_n_groove

Wma31394 said:

Not sure why everyone doesn't like him..he's basically been rebuilding Haiti with his own two hands..

That's the only good thing he's done...

Wma31394

tempo_n_groove said:

Wma31394 said:

Not sure why everyone doesn't like him..he's basically been rebuilding Haiti with his own two hands..

That's the only good thing he's done...

I doubt it..

Cliffy6745

Wma31394 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Wma31394 said:

Not sure why everyone doesn't like him..he's basically been rebuilding Haiti with his own two hands..

That's the only good thing he's done...

I doubt it..

Seems like just a swell guy

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/23/twitter-turns-on-abuser-sean-penn-following-his-oscars-green-card-joke.html

PJ_Soul

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Not sure why this thread isn't in AMT....hmmm
Anyway this article http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/journalists-stop-complaining-about-sean-penn-213519

Cliffy6745

PJ_Soul said:

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

PJ_Soul

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag

Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.

Cliffy6745

PJ_Soul said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag

Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.

Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...

Enkidu

Larry Wilmore on Sean Penn tonight is amazing. Sorry, but I can't find a link yet.

rgambs

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag

Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.

Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...

So I guess we shouldn't tell stories about WW2 anymore?

Cliffy6745

rgambs said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag

Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.

Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...

So I guess we shouldn't tell stories about WW2 anymore?

Stop it. Given your analogy, which I think is absurd, should a celebrity have tracked down Hitler and told the exact story he wanted told? Would you celebrated that?

JWPearl

nothing is damaged cliffy
he knows its over soon too

rgambs

Cliffy6745 said:

rgambs said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag

Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.

Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...

So I guess we shouldn't tell stories about WW2 anymore?

Stop it. Given your analogy, which I think is absurd, should a celebrity have tracked down Hitler and told the exact story he wanted told? Would you celebrated that?

Absolutely! Love and knowledge are all that really matter in this life, the more, the better. If we had such information we would know so much more about what creates, drives, sustains, and destroys a man such as Hitler. That information is priceless.
Censoring people because you don't like their behavior is not a mature, thoughtful action.

rgambs

I think people are using preconceived opinions of Sean Penn to discredit him whenever they get a chance.

Cliffy6745

rgambs said:

Cliffy6745 said:

rgambs said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJ_Soul said:

It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag

Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.

Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...

So I guess we shouldn't tell stories about WW2 anymore?

Stop it. Given your analogy, which I think is absurd, should a celebrity have tracked down Hitler and told the exact story he wanted told? Would you celebrated that?

Absolutely! Love and knowledge are all that really matter in this life, the more, the better. If we had such information we would know so much more about what creates, drives, sustains, and destroys a man such as Hitler. That information is priceless.
Censoring people because you don't like their behavior is not a mature, thoughtful action.

That is fair, but journalists get murdered by this guy for telling the truth. I'm just not down with a celebrity furthering his name by being a propaganda mouthpiece for a scumbag.