Why do people buy crap?

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  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ldent42 said:

    ehbacon said:

    fun fact:

    there are actually women who make a pretty decent living selling their feces, urine, hair, etc over the internet to weird pervs.

    Where do I sign up? :sick:


    I buy crap ALL THE TIME. I'm an irresponsible piece of shit though. I use those aluminum foil trays instead of servingware bowls for holiday meals, i re-use them to reheat the leftovers and then trash em. I use paper plates and plastic cups and I buy the individual cups of yogurt and cans of soda and liter bottles of soda. I buy cheap clothes and I get deliveries at least once a week.

    I regret nothing.
    :rofl:
    The thing about most of that crap is that it can be recycled. Yeah, not having the crap in the first place is ideal, but at least this crap doesn't have to go into a landfill....
    True, but it takes energy and resources to recycle. Sorry ladies, not good enough arguments to justify buying crap.

    I'm not trying to put anybody down here, just trying to encourage taking more care in what we consume. The more durable an item, the longer it will last and longer it will be (saving energy usage) before it does go to recycling.
    Not at all b-lux, you're absolutely right. I am kind of a jerk about recycling. I recycle everything. My building actually DOES separate the recycling so it's not like I'm wasting my time. If they got a compost bin I'd be all over that shit too.

    One of the benefits of being both cheap AND broke is I am quite good at repurposing just about everything :giggle: I do wanna go to the dollar store and get some kind of decorative hook magnet so I can hang the potholders on the fridge rather than have them on the desk 6ft away from the oven.

    Here's a thought about waste on a grand scale: All those printed paper losing powerball tickets.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    ldent42 said:

    All those printed paper losing powerball tickets.

    We crumple up ours and they become cat toys.

    We flick, they chase.

    Win?

  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2016

    ^^^
    So what.
    Enjoy some bad food for fucking once.

    So because it's wrong and poisonous, idiot. Figures a typical Trumphadist like you would defend them and force others to think like you. If I want to stay healthy, that's my business and not yours, jackass.
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  • ^^^
    So what.
    Enjoy some bad food for fucking once.

    So because it's wrong and poisonous, idiot. Figures a typical Trumphadist like you would defend them and force others to think like you. If I want to stay healthy, that's my business and not yours, jackass.
    Easy big fella.
    A Big Mac just might cheer you up, or a happy meal.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Shitty food is a whole other subject. I think we covered that somewhere in a Food Inc. thread. It's bad for the body, bad for the planet, and definitely bad for the animals.

    ldent42 said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ldent42 said:

    ehbacon said:

    fun fact:

    there are actually women who make a pretty decent living selling their feces, urine, hair, etc over the internet to weird pervs.

    Where do I sign up? :sick:


    I buy crap ALL THE TIME. I'm an irresponsible piece of shit though. I use those aluminum foil trays instead of servingware bowls for holiday meals, i re-use them to reheat the leftovers and then trash em. I use paper plates and plastic cups and I buy the individual cups of yogurt and cans of soda and liter bottles of soda. I buy cheap clothes and I get deliveries at least once a week.

    I regret nothing.
    :rofl:
    The thing about most of that crap is that it can be recycled. Yeah, not having the crap in the first place is ideal, but at least this crap doesn't have to go into a landfill....
    True, but it takes energy and resources to recycle. Sorry ladies, not good enough arguments to justify buying crap.

    I'm not trying to put anybody down here, just trying to encourage taking more care in what we consume. The more durable an item, the longer it will last and longer it will be (saving energy usage) before it does go to recycling.
    Not at all b-lux, you're absolutely right. I am kind of a jerk about recycling. I recycle everything. My building actually DOES separate the recycling so it's not like I'm wasting my time. If they got a compost bin I'd be all over that shit too.

    One of the benefits of being both cheap AND broke is I am quite good at repurposing just about everything :giggle: I do wanna go to the dollar store and get some kind of decorative hook magnet so I can hang the potholders on the fridge rather than have them on the desk 6ft away from the oven.

    Here's a thought about waste on a grand scale: All those printed paper losing powerball tickets.
    Glad you understand I'm not picking on you, Ident! :smile: My take on being broke (I've been there-- I was so broke in the mid nineties that I lived in my van for a couple of years) is that the less money one has, the more imperative it is on a personal level to buy quality goods. The better the quality, the longer it will last, the more money you save in the long run, plus the better for the planet. And anyone who is not poor would be wise to do the same for benevolent reasons.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,944
    edited January 2016
    I would bet there are a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck so they only buy what they can afford at the time. They would love to buy that expensive pair of socks that will last a long time, but they also may have to pay for jeans, shirts, shoes, food, rent, gas, mortgage, etc... so they have to spread out the money they spend and buy the cheapest thing they can to get them through the next few months. I agree if you have some money saved up you can buy the nice stuff, but if you don't have that piggy bank to allow you to buy nicer things then you may unfortunately be in a vicious circle of wanting to buy nicer things to save money in the long run but never having quite enough money to be able to get started.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    I would bet there are a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck so they only buy what they can afford at the time. They would love to buy that expensive pair of socks that will last a long time, but they also may have to pay for jeans, shirts, shoes, food, rent, gas, mortgage, etc... so they have to spread out the money they spend and buy the cheapest thing they can to get them through the next few months. I agree if you have some money saved up you can buy the nice stuff, but if you don't have that piggy bank to allow you to buy nicer things then you may unfortunately be in a vicious circle of wanting to buy nicer things to save money in the long run but never having quite enough money to be able to get started.

    This seems like sound thinking until you really think it out. Like I said, I've been poor, dirt poor. Here's are some things I learned that helped:

    -Thrift stores. Maybe not helpful if you live in a third world country but North America is chock-a-block full of very inexpensive, good, useful items in thrift stores.

    -The importance of prioritizing what I needed (one of the key points here for many people is to learn the difference between "need" and "want"). Once you narrow down your list to true needs, look for the best item money can buy and save for the next item on the list.

    -Mending clothing. Often a few stitches will make do for the time being.

    -Dumpster dive. Don't be too proud to take what others discard. I still have a bookshelf I picked out of a dumpster in 1997 and it looks great.

    -Food banks,, and other charities. I give to Loaves and Fishes because they were so good to me years ago and I didn't starve. Don't be too proud to accept free food because once you're refueled and back on your feet you can always give back.

    -Learn how to budget. I'm one of the few people I personally know who budgets. My income this month is saved for next months bills. When February rolls around, I will have every cent I need for every expense that month already banked. It took me a while to get to this point but I started moving in that direction in the early 90's and by the late 1990's and I was there. And at that time I was living on about $650 a month.

    Being poor does not mean you need to buy crap. At least here in America, it's a choice.


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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited January 2016
    I'm not well off and I have certainly been poor.
    Now I really, truly don't care about the packaging things come in because I will recycle as best I can with it.
    I absolutely love Walmart (except on black Friday) and the dollar stores.
    Because of my effort to conform to our local recycling and waste disposal rules I find my carbon footprint offset by all the people who don't buy crap and are near to hugging a tree.
    So for me it's gratification neutral, I gain a cool gadget for a few bucks and I really don't care.
    Socks on the other hand are very important like shoes. A $10pack for ten pairs at walmart is a great deal if you can afford $10/month to replace the socks as they are shit.
    A $20 pair of socks sounds crazy but you won't want to take them off your feet once you try them.
    I will drive a country mile with the A/C on, blasting Pearl Jam on the stereo on the way to the store to pick up useless crap.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    I'm not well off and I have certainly been poor.
    Now I really, truly don't care about the packaging things come in because I will recycle as best I can with it.
    I absolutely love Walmart (except on black Friday) and the dollar stores.
    Because of my effort to conform to our local recycling and waste disposal rules I find my carbon footprint offset by all the people who don't buy crap and are near to hugging a tree.

    Simply recycling stuff does not equate to true sustainability. I totally agree that recycling is a good thing and do so as much as possible myself but recycling alone does not eliminate resource depletion. Nor does hugging a tree (in fact, if you hug the wrong kind of tree you may find yourself scratching a lot!)

    So for me it's gratification neutral, I gain a cool gadget for a few bucks and I really don't care.

    Depleting resources may be gratification neutral but it is not ecologically neutral. Don't fool yourself.

    Socks on the other hand are very important like shoes. A $10pack for ten pairs at walmart is a great deal if you can afford $10/month to replace the socks as they are shit.
    A $20 pair of socks sounds crazy but you won't want to take them off your feet once you try them.
    I will drive a country mile with the A/C on, blasting Pearl Jam on the stereo on the way to the store to pick up useless crap.

    I'm sorry I used socks as an example. It seems the record has gotten stuck in a groove here. :lol:

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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,944
    brianlux said:

    I would bet there are a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck so they only buy what they can afford at the time. They would love to buy that expensive pair of socks that will last a long time, but they also may have to pay for jeans, shirts, shoes, food, rent, gas, mortgage, etc... so they have to spread out the money they spend and buy the cheapest thing they can to get them through the next few months. I agree if you have some money saved up you can buy the nice stuff, but if you don't have that piggy bank to allow you to buy nicer things then you may unfortunately be in a vicious circle of wanting to buy nicer things to save money in the long run but never having quite enough money to be able to get started.

    This seems like sound thinking until you really think it out. Like I said, I've been poor, dirt poor. Here's are some things I learned that helped:

    -Thrift stores. Maybe not helpful if you live in a third world country but North America is chock-a-block full of very inexpensive, good, useful items in thrift stores.

    -The importance of prioritizing what I needed (one of the key points here for many people is to learn the difference between "need" and "want"). Once you narrow down your list to true needs, look for the best item money can buy and save for the next item on the list.

    -Mending clothing. Often a few stitches will make do for the time being.

    -Dumpster dive. Don't be too proud to take what others discard. I still have a bookshelf I picked out of a dumpster in 1997 and it looks great.

    -Food banks,, and other charities. I give to Loaves and Fishes because they were so good to me years ago and I didn't starve. Don't be too proud to accept free food because once you're refueled and back on your feet you can always give back.

    -Learn how to budget. I'm one of the few people I personally know who budgets. My income this month is saved for next months bills. When February rolls around, I will have every cent I need for every expense that month already banked. It took me a while to get to this point but I started moving in that direction in the early 90's and by the late 1990's and I was there. And at that time I was living on about $650 a month.

    Being poor does not mean you need to buy crap. At least here in America, it's a choice.


    Agree. Certainly it takes some time and discipline to get out of the "vicious circle" I mentioned previously.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594

    mickeyrat said:

    Umm, a one off distribution deal for Backspacer. Its 2016. One album since was sold where? Oh thats right just about everywhere.
    Still can't admit.
    Admit what? They had a one off "partnership"?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    I dont buy crap. Most of my purchases are worthless shit.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Umm, a one off distribution deal for Backspacer. Its 2016. One album since was sold where? Oh thats right just about everywhere.
    Still can't admit.
    Admit what? They had a one off "partnership"?
    As much as a big bad boxstore is scorned upon by folks around here PJ at one point "shopped" there.
    Target must be doing something right.
    Support Target!
  • Brianlux do you own an RV?
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,944
    edited January 2016

    Brianlux do you own an RV?

    And if so, it better not be a crappy one.
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    Bazinga!
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    brianlux said:

    I would bet there are a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck so they only buy what they can afford at the time. They would love to buy that expensive pair of socks that will last a long time, but they also may have to pay for jeans, shirts, shoes, food, rent, gas, mortgage, etc... so they have to spread out the money they spend and buy the cheapest thing they can to get them through the next few months. I agree if you have some money saved up you can buy the nice stuff, but if you don't have that piggy bank to allow you to buy nicer things then you may unfortunately be in a vicious circle of wanting to buy nicer things to save money in the long run but never having quite enough money to be able to get started.

    This seems like sound thinking until you really think it out. Like I said, I've been poor, dirt poor. Here's are some things I learned that helped:

    -Thrift stores. Maybe not helpful if you live in a third world country but North America is chock-a-block full of very inexpensive, good, useful items in thrift stores.

    -The importance of prioritizing what I needed (one of the key points here for many people is to learn the difference between "need" and "want"). Once you narrow down your list to true needs, look for the best item money can buy and save for the next item on the list.

    -Mending clothing. Often a few stitches will make do for the time being.

    -Dumpster dive. Don't be too proud to take what others discard. I still have a bookshelf I picked out of a dumpster in 1997 and it looks great.

    -Food banks,, and other charities. I give to Loaves and Fishes because they were so good to me years ago and I didn't starve. Don't be too proud to accept free food because once you're refueled and back on your feet you can always give back.

    -Learn how to budget. I'm one of the few people I personally know who budgets. My income this month is saved for next months bills. When February rolls around, I will have every cent I need for every expense that month already banked. It took me a while to get to this point but I started moving in that direction in the early 90's and by the late 1990's and I was there. And at that time I was living on about $650 a month.

    Being poor does not mean you need to buy crap. At least here in America, it's a choice.


    The majority of furniture in my house was discarded by someone else. Not just my house either. I've liberated more than a couple pieces from the garbage and brought to other people's homes too. And craigslist as well. It's a pretty well known trick to put furniture you wanna throw out on Craigslist for like $5. Make people think they're getting a bargain and they'll do the heavy lifting for you! Win-win. I even picked up an entire desktop CPU out of the garbage once. I peeked inside the case and it still had all it's bits - even the hard drive! My friend came and picked us up and used it as a media center for years afterward. Still uses some of the parts now, and this is almost ten years ago.

    99% of my books are from thrift stores. There is a giant book-shaped hole in my heart since my favorite thrift store closed more than a year ago. I've never gotten clothing from a thrift store, but things like books, records/cds/dvds, jewelry, handbags, frames, random shit - you can sometimes find better shit in thriftstores that's been donated without even being used than you can buy in Target.
    Unless you're looking for the 34lb box of Fresh Stop Extreme. That can only be found at Target. When they feel like putting it on the shelf. :angry:

    Seriously though I've donated shit to the Salvation Army that still had tags on it.
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  • ^^^
    How did you end up with things having tags to donate?
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859

    ^^^
    How did you end up with things having tags to donate?

    because I took too long to return it and it didn't fit.
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  • ^^^
    Makes sense.
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013

    I'm not well off and I have certainly been poor.
    Now I really, truly don't care about the packaging things come in because I will recycle as best I can with it.
    I absolutely love Walmart (except on black Friday) and the dollar stores.
    Because of my effort to conform to our local recycling and waste disposal rules I find my carbon footprint offset by all the people who don't buy crap and are near to hugging a tree.
    So for me it's gratification neutral, I gain a cool gadget for a few bucks and I really don't care.
    Socks on the other hand are very important like shoes. A $10pack for ten pairs at walmart is a great deal if you can afford $10/month to replace the socks as they are shit.
    A $20 pair of socks sounds crazy but you won't want to take them off your feet once you try them.
    I will drive a country mile with the A/C on, blasting Pearl Jam on the stereo on the way to the store to pick up useless crap.

    but you can apparently afford to eat numerous bowls of soup that cost about $75 a pop...which in Canadian currency at the moment equates to $100.

    I mean if you really do live in Canada...
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    Brianlux do you own an RV?

    And if so, it better not be a crappy one.
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Bazinga!
    Haha! Irrelevant question but I laughed! :smiley:

    I do have some crap but only crap that I bought second hand and a few odds and ends given to me. My free crap or cheap used crap is not forsaken. I like to nurture, nurse, cultivate, or limp it along in order to get the most out of and respect the resources and energy that went into it. For example, I often spend a lot of time repairing interesting but banged up books and only make very little more for them. Some books have only made me almost nothing for my time but it feels great to send them back into the game for another go a getting their pages fondled once again. I have a piece of shit mandolin that might have been tossed out had I not managed to make it playable. It makes beautiful shitty noise!

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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,440

    The cheapest brands are from the most evil places like Walmart and food regarding Monsanto fast places like McDevil's and Taco Hell.

    That's how they get you.

    I love the anti-Monsanto folk.

    Unless you plant your own vegetables & raise your own livestock and that is all you ever consume, and then you also manufacture your own cleaning products, whether personal hygiene or home cleaning, you're consuming Monsanto made products. I would almost guarantee there is at least one Monsanto product in ever American home.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    The cheapest brands are from the most evil places like Walmart and food regarding Monsanto fast places like McDevil's and Taco Hell.

    That's how they get you.

    I love the anti-Monsanto folk.

    Unless you plant your own vegetables & raise your own livestock and that is all you ever consume, and then you also manufacture your own cleaning products, whether personal hygiene or home cleaning, you're consuming Monsanto made products. I would almost guarantee there is at least one Monsanto product in ever American home.
    Undoubtedly. In fact I'm guessing we all have a little Monsanto in our blood streams and our kids in their DNA. The makings for a good dystopian sci fi/ horror story!
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,944
    edited January 2016
    I don't know much about engineered food. If the earth is going to have 8-10 billion people on it, does anyone think we'll need companies like Monsanto to engineer crops that are more drought resistant to feed the masses? Obviously it is a trade off to health, but is that a trade we will have to make? Do people think that we can grow food the old fashioned way and still feed 10 billion people?

    Sorry if a dumb question.
  • I don't know much about engineered food. If the earth is going to have 8-10 billion people on it, does anyone think we'll need companies like Monsanto to engineer crops that are more drought resistant to feed the masses? Obviously it is a trade off to health, but is that a trade we will have to make? Do people think that we can grow food the old fashioned way and still feed 10 billion people?

    Sorry if a dumb question.

    I don't think it's a dumb question at all.
    Reducing human growth is no longer an option.
  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    I don't think anyone is against a little bit of agricultural experimentation for the good of humanity, I think the concern is the lack of transparency in the methods and the potential disastrous health effects on a whole lot o' people.

    I mean I'm sure there's SOME people against it. There's some people against EVERYTHING.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited January 2016
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ldent42 said:

    ehbacon said:

    fun fact:

    there are actually women who make a pretty decent living selling their feces, urine, hair, etc over the internet to weird pervs.

    Where do I sign up? :sick:


    I buy crap ALL THE TIME. I'm an irresponsible piece of shit though. I use those aluminum foil trays instead of servingware bowls for holiday meals, i re-use them to reheat the leftovers and then trash em. I use paper plates and plastic cups and I buy the individual cups of yogurt and cans of soda and liter bottles of soda. I buy cheap clothes and I get deliveries at least once a week.

    I regret nothing.
    :rofl:
    The thing about most of that crap is that it can be recycled. Yeah, not having the crap in the first place is ideal, but at least this crap doesn't have to go into a landfill....
    True, but it takes energy and resources to recycle. Sorry ladies, not good enough arguments to justify buying crap.

    I'm not trying to put anybody down here, just trying to encourage taking more care in what we consume. The more durable an item, the longer it will last and longer it will be (saving energy usage) before it does go to recycling.
    Yes, it does take energy to recycle.
    Hey, don't look at me. I hardly buy any crap at all! I don't accumulate "stuff". I don't buy doodads or trinkets. I hardly even buy clothes and shit I really really need. :lol: The only "stuff" I buy regularly are records and hair products (and I buy what works on my hair, not what is good for the environment. Blame my hair for that!). The one area where I mostly suck is food I guess. I don't put much thought into where my food comes from for the most part, namely because I can't afford to be picky (i.e. I don't normally buy organic). I do, however, always buy free-range eggs. And I try to buy Canadian food products when they're available, assuming it's affordable.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    I don't know much about engineered food. If the earth is going to have 8-10 billion people on it, does anyone think we'll need companies like Monsanto to engineer crops that are more drought resistant to feed the masses? Obviously it is a trade off to health, but is that a trade we will have to make? Do people think that we can grow food the old fashioned way and still feed 10 billion people?

    Sorry if a dumb question.

    It's a good question. I've read a wide variety of estimates related to the question , "How many people can the earth feed?". Some say that without artificial means, a few hundred million people is optimal. Others have said that if everyone on earth stopped eating meat, the planet could support 10 billion but that because that is highly unlikely, the carrying capacity for humans is well below that number. I've not read anything that would support the idea of traditional farming being able to support 10 billion people.

    We don't know what the long-term results of Frankenfood will be and yet we do know that reducing human population and growing organics will work. Why we insist on taking the long shot at the high risk of our own peril is beyond me. It sure does seems like world-wide suicidal tendencies to me.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ldent42 said:

    ehbacon said:

    fun fact:

    there are actually women who make a pretty decent living selling their feces, urine, hair, etc over the internet to weird pervs.

    Where do I sign up? :sick:


    I buy crap ALL THE TIME. I'm an irresponsible piece of shit though. I use those aluminum foil trays instead of servingware bowls for holiday meals, i re-use them to reheat the leftovers and then trash em. I use paper plates and plastic cups and I buy the individual cups of yogurt and cans of soda and liter bottles of soda. I buy cheap clothes and I get deliveries at least once a week.

    I regret nothing.
    :rofl:
    The thing about most of that crap is that it can be recycled. Yeah, not having the crap in the first place is ideal, but at least this crap doesn't have to go into a landfill....
    True, but it takes energy and resources to recycle. Sorry ladies, not good enough arguments to justify buying crap.

    I'm not trying to put anybody down here, just trying to encourage taking more care in what we consume. The more durable an item, the longer it will last and longer it will be (saving energy usage) before it does go to recycling.
    Yes, it does take energy to recycle.
    Hey, don't look at me. I hardly buy any crap at all! I don't accumulate "stuff". I don't buy doodads or trinkets. I hardly even buy clothes and shit I really really need. :lol: The only "stuff" I buy regularly are records and hair products (and I buy what works on my hair, not what is good for the environment. Blame my hair for that!). The one area where I mostly suck is food I guess. I don't put much thought into where my food comes from for the most part, namely because I can't afford to be picky (i.e. I don't normally buy organic). I do, however, always buy free-range eggs. And I try to buy Canadian food products when they're available, assuming it's affordable.
    Records don't count as excess consumption any more than food water or shelter! :wink:

    Seems to me you mentioned once you don't drive. That deserves an :i_salute_you_good_job!: emoticon!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • ^^^
    Driving is essential for millions of people.
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