Star Wars Episode 7 Discussion with SPOILERS
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That would have been Luke, no? Palpatine wanted to train him but Vader wanted to secretly so father and son could overthrow him and rule together.rgambs said:
True, very true.polaris_x said:
for sure he has to be a compelling and believable baddie but his origin doesn't necessarily need to be introduced prior to episode 8 ... we're gonna get all kinds of back story in 8 (rey, luke) - might as well get his as well ...rgambs said:
I think if Vader had his own apprentice on the down low that would be cool.0 -
Vader definitely could have been grooming someone else before Luke came along..... Or even after Luke came along......eddiec said:
That would have been Luke, no? Palpatine wanted to train him but Vader wanted to secretly so father and son could overthrow him and rule together.rgambs said:
True, very true.polaris_x said:
for sure he has to be a compelling and believable baddie but his origin doesn't necessarily need to be introduced prior to episode 8 ... we're gonna get all kinds of back story in 8 (rey, luke) - might as well get his as well ...rgambs said:
I think if Vader had his own apprentice on the down low that would be cool.
It's always good to have a backup plan.0 -
Yep. Palpatine wanted to get rid of Vader and take Luke as his new apprentice. Vader wanted to replace Palpatine himself and take Luke as his second in command so they could "rule the galaxy as father and son."eddiec said:
That would have been Luke, no? Palpatine wanted to train him but Vader wanted to secretly so father and son could overthrow him and rule together.rgambs said:
True, very true.polaris_x said:
for sure he has to be a compelling and believable baddie but his origin doesn't necessarily need to be introduced prior to episode 8 ... we're gonna get all kinds of back story in 8 (rey, luke) - might as well get his as well ...rgambs said:
I think if Vader had his own apprentice on the down low that would be cool.0 -
yeah, I guess that's possible. But isn't the basic idea that there is nobody out there who's strong enough with the force to make it happen... until Luke comes along?Merkin Baller said:
Vader definitely could have been grooming someone else before Luke came along..... Or even after Luke came along......eddiec said:
That would have been Luke, no? Palpatine wanted to train him but Vader wanted to secretly so father and son could overthrow him and rule together.rgambs said:
True, very true.polaris_x said:
for sure he has to be a compelling and believable baddie but his origin doesn't necessarily need to be introduced prior to episode 8 ... we're gonna get all kinds of back story in 8 (rey, luke) - might as well get his as well ...rgambs said:
I think if Vader had his own apprentice on the down low that would be cool.
It's always good to have a backup plan.0 -
"The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi."JTH said:
yeah, I guess that's possible. But isn't the basic idea that there is nobody out there who's strong enough with the force to make it happen... until Luke comes along?
yep, luke and anakin are the two most powerful. would be lame if they magically introduced someone who was more powerful than those two.0 -
buddy thinks snoke is Darth Plagueis0
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I'm still going with the theory that Snoke is Jar Jar.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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I wonder if that is the route Lucas was going with but abandoned plans after the fallout from the 1st film?rival. said:
too predictable. i am going with the storm trooper that hit his head on the door in a new hope. his revenge on the galaxy for almost 40 years of mockery.Jason P said:I'm still going with the theory that Snoke is Jar Jar.
Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
it's not ... the rule of 2 in the star wars universe means there can only be one sith lord with an apprentice ... darth plagueis was darth sidious's master until he got betrayed ...JTH said:
Where was this scene?polaris_x said:
pretty cool scene showing darth sidious killing darth plagueis in his sleep ...
the theory is that darth plagueis weakened but survived ... and is now snoke ...0 -
Ah, I see -- a nonexistent scene is pretty cool.
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I just read that the rule of 2 is self imposed, began a thousand years ago when the Sith lords all turned on each other... That means it surely can be broken.polaris_x said:
it's not ... the rule of 2 in the star wars universe means there can only be one sith lord with an apprentice ... darth plagueis was darth sidious's master until he got betrayed ...JTH said:
Where was this scene?polaris_x said:
pretty cool scene showing darth sidious killing darth plagueis in his sleep ...
the theory is that darth plagueis weakened but survived ... and is now snoke ...Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Yeah, thinking Snoke is Plagueis. He's too powerful to just come out of nowhere. This is from earlier in this thread....JimmyV said:
Compelling evidence that Plageuis is Snoke...
https://youtu.be/vd_8-NCN5CU0 -
The music to the Snoke scene is the same as that scene in Ep3 where Palpatine has a talk to Anakin at the opera. I reckon he is Plageuis.Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140
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Just found out it's gonna be on Rifftrax and Bill, Kevin and Mike are recording commentary this week. Great movie but I'm looking forward to more jokes poking fun at George Lucas, Ford's latter day crap (Firewall) and Fisher's drug heavy personal past life again.0
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So I bought the blu ray today.
Rey doesn't know how she mind tricked that stormtrooper or how she flew the falcon. I reckon Luke has learned some new power at the jedi temple and is controlling her remotely.
Leia definintley knows who Rey is, the way she looks at her before they hug.
And that look on Han's face, he feels bad she has never seen so much green, he knows who she is.
I noticed a baby Finn photo on the screen when they check for his history after he abandons ship.Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140
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