200 Nations sign on to Paris Climate Deal

brianlux

ldent42 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

ldent42 said:

polaris_x said:

re: death of birds by wind mills

http://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/

2003? Come on.

I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.

I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.

the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.

I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.

Re: everyone else
Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens

Avis amator!

tempo_n_groove

ldent42 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

ldent42 said:

polaris_x said:

re: death of birds by wind mills

http://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/

2003? Come on.

I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.

I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.

the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.

I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.

Re: everyone else
Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens

Lol, look this one up too

ZZYZX RD in California.

polaris_x

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

With all the talk of America having world influence you start to wonder if headlines like this are real? Taken from this article http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/12/13/one-word-derailed-paris-climate-change-summit/
I read about this earlier and just shook my head.
A serious document? Give me a break.
In previous draft agreements, the word “should” had been written in place of the word “shall”, however the latter appeared in the proposed final version.

But if “shall” was to sit in the wrong spot in the final agreement, some US legal advisors believed it would mean the deal would need congressional approval in the US – an almost impossible barrier to overcome because of the problem’s contentious nature there.

“Should” implied a moral obligation but did not compel a nation to do something, the advisers believed.

“Shall” meant there would be a legal obligation to undertake action

like i said ... abject failure ... and also like i said ... our fate lies with the americans ...

ldent42

tempo_n_groove said:

ldent42 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

ldent42 said:

polaris_x said:

re: death of birds by wind mills

http://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/

2003? Come on.

I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.

I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.

the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.

I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.

Re: everyone else
Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens

Lol, look this one up too

ZZYZX RD in California.

California is a strange, strange place.

brianlux

ldent42 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

ldent42 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

ldent42 said:

polaris_x said:

re: death of birds by wind mills

http://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/

2003? Come on.

I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.

I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.

the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.

I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.

Re: everyone else
Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens

Lol, look this one up too

ZZYZX RD in California.

California is a strange, strange place.

Ooooooooooooooooooooh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh, haha!

gimmesometruth27

and the republicans will scuttle this. just watch.

jeffbr

ldent42 said:

polaris_x said:

re: death of birds by wind mills

http://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/

2003? Come on.

I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.

Anyone know about these Wind Turbines?

"The result is a turbine that’s 50 percent less expensive than a bladed one, nearly silent, and, as one of the turbine’s engineers put it, “looks like asparagus” (sorry, Quixote). And while each Vortex turbine is also 30 percent less efficient at capturing energy, wind farms can double the number of turbines that occupy a given area if they go bladeless. That’s a net energy gain of 40 percent for you non-mathletes out there.”"

http://grist.org/news/this-wind-turbine-has-no-blades-and-thats-why-its-better/

I would imagine the birds would prefer these over the bladed ones.

polaris_x

read about these bladeless wind turbines a while back ... check out this article ...

http://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/21/bladeless-wind-turbine-reality-check/

jeffbr

polaris_x said:

read about these bladeless wind turbines a while back ... check out this article ...

http://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/21/bladeless-wind-turbine-reality-check/

Thanks. Sounds like the old saying "if it's too good to be true..."

polaris_x

jeffbr said:

polaris_x said:

read about these bladeless wind turbines a while back ... check out this article ...

http://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/21/bladeless-wind-turbine-reality-check/

Thanks. Sounds like the old saying "if it's too good to be true..."

well ... yes and no in this case ... there are definitely limitations but really - the solution to our energy demands isn't going to come from one super solution ... I can see there is a place for this technology ...

brianlux

polaris_x said:

jeffbr said:

polaris_x said:

read about these bladeless wind turbines a while back ... check out this article ...

http://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/21/bladeless-wind-turbine-reality-check/

Thanks. Sounds like the old saying "if it's too good to be true..."

well ... yes and no in this case ... there are definitely limitations but really - the solution to our energy demands isn't going to come from one super solution ... I can see there is a place for this technology ...

I've long believed the same thing. The best solutions will come from improved clean energy technologies, reduced human population and conservation (i.e., reduced consumption).