I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.
the turbines up in the tchehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
I saw a recent report on this. I believe somebody posted it on here somewhere. Some climate change denier gave some exaggerated figure on how many birds were killed by turbines. I'll try and find it. The cat reference was just to show that percentage wise turbines kill a very small amount.
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
plus ... the biggest threat to birds is during migratory seasons ... you can turn the wind turbines off at night ... in any case - the death of birds has been grossly exaggerated ...
I think some very serious things are going to need to be looked at to solve this problem. Population size and consumption habits are the big ones, and the hardest problems to deal with. Tough choices have to be made in how much a person is entitled to use and waste in a lifetime on this shared home. In the meantime, we have to look at making some ecological sacrifices to preserve the places that are vital for survival and spiritual sustenance. I shake my head sometimes at entire ecosystems destroyed and poisoned to extract fossil fuels that could have been replaced by renewables, but weren't because of a single species. Hydro dams, solar farms, wind farms, they have all been shut down by environmentalism that was missing the big picture. Tough choices ahead.
With all the talk of America having world influence you start to wonder if headlines like this are real? Taken from this article http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/12/13/one-word-derailed-paris-climate-change-summit/ I read about this earlier and just shook my head. A serious document? Give me a break. In previous draft agreements, the word “should” had been written in place of the word “shall”, however the latter appeared in the proposed final version.
But if “shall” was to sit in the wrong spot in the final agreement, some US legal advisors believed it would mean the deal would need congressional approval in the US – an almost impossible barrier to overcome because of the problem’s contentious nature there.
“Should” implied a moral obligation but did not compel a nation to do something, the advisers believed.
“Shall” meant there would be a legal obligation to undertake action
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.
the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.
I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.
Re: everyone else Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.
the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.
I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.
Re: everyone else Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens
Avis amator!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.
the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.
I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.
Re: everyone else Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens
With all the talk of America having world influence you start to wonder if headlines like this are real? Taken from this article http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/12/13/one-word-derailed-paris-climate-change-summit/ I read about this earlier and just shook my head. A serious document? Give me a break. In previous draft agreements, the word “should” had been written in place of the word “shall”, however the latter appeared in the proposed final version.
But if “shall” was to sit in the wrong spot in the final agreement, some US legal advisors believed it would mean the deal would need congressional approval in the US – an almost impossible barrier to overcome because of the problem’s contentious nature there.
“Should” implied a moral obligation but did not compel a nation to do something, the advisers believed.
“Shall” meant there would be a legal obligation to undertake action
like i said ... abject failure ... and also like i said ... our fate lies with the americans ...
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.
the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.
I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.
Re: everyone else Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
I watched a special on the turbines that said the bird strikes aren't significant and that the birds would learn about them.
the turbines up in the tehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.
I legit Googled this cuz i thought you were making that name up.
Re: everyone else Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens
Lol, look this one up too
ZZYZX RD in California.
California is a strange, strange place.
Ooooooooooooooooooooh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh, haha!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
Anyone know about these Wind Turbines? "The result is a turbine that’s 50 percent less expensive than a bladed one, nearly silent, and, as one of the turbine’s engineers put it, “looks like asparagus” (sorry, Quixote). And while each Vortex turbine is also 30 percent less efficient at capturing energy, wind farms can double the number of turbines that occupy a given area if they go bladeless. That’s a net energy gain of 40 percent for you non-mathletes out there.”"
Thanks. Sounds like the old saying "if it's too good to be true..."
well ... yes and no in this case ... there are definitely limitations but really - the solution to our energy demands isn't going to come from one super solution ... I can see there is a place for this technology ...
Thanks. Sounds like the old saying "if it's too good to be true..."
well ... yes and no in this case ... there are definitely limitations but really - the solution to our energy demands isn't going to come from one super solution ... I can see there is a place for this technology ...
I've long believed the same thing. The best solutions will come from improved clean energy technologies, reduced human population and conservation (i.e., reduced consumption).
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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http://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/
I'm not buying that the comparison to cats is a valid argument either. I mean that's a food chain thing ain't it? We're talking about migrating species flying into a blender. Plus I mean how hard could it be to cover the blades with mesh or some kind of grate the way regular fans have? But what do I know.
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the turbines up in the tchehachapis and outside of Palm Springs have been there for 30 years and no one complained about them.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/9-leading-causes-of-bird-deaths-in-canada-1.1873654
plus ... the biggest threat to birds is during migratory seasons ... you can turn the wind turbines off at night ... in any case - the death of birds has been grossly exaggerated ...
In the meantime, we have to look at making some ecological sacrifices to preserve the places that are vital for survival and spiritual sustenance. I shake my head sometimes at entire ecosystems destroyed and poisoned to extract fossil fuels that could have been replaced by renewables, but weren't because of a single species. Hydro dams, solar farms, wind farms, they have all been shut down by environmentalism that was missing the big picture.
Tough choices ahead.
I read about this earlier and just shook my head.
A serious document? Give me a break.
In previous draft agreements, the word “should” had been written in place of the word “shall”, however the latter appeared in the proposed final version.
But if “shall” was to sit in the wrong spot in the final agreement, some US legal advisors believed it would mean the deal would need congressional approval in the US – an almost impossible barrier to overcome because of the problem’s contentious nature there.
“Should” implied a moral obligation but did not compel a nation to do something, the advisers believed.
“Shall” meant there would be a legal obligation to undertake action
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/why-birds-hit-windows-and-how-you-can-help-prevent-it/
Re: everyone else
Yea I get it. No one cares about birds. #BirdLivesMatter #exceptchickens
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ZZYZX RD in California.
LIVEFOOTSTEPS.ORG/USER/?USR=435
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"The result is a turbine that’s 50 percent less expensive than a bladed one, nearly silent, and, as one of the turbine’s engineers put it, “looks like asparagus” (sorry, Quixote). And while each Vortex turbine is also 30 percent less efficient at capturing energy, wind farms can double the number of turbines that occupy a given area if they go bladeless. That’s a net energy gain of 40 percent for you non-mathletes out there.”"
http://grist.org/news/this-wind-turbine-has-no-blades-and-thats-why-its-better/
I would imagine the birds would prefer these over the bladed ones.
http://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/21/bladeless-wind-turbine-reality-check/