Bernie Sanders for President

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Free said:

    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    I bet his rallies in CA will be yuuuuuge!!

    For sure! Only I can't find any speaking engagements near Sacramento. Surely he will come to our state capitol which is an hour away but I can't find an event. Argh!
    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    I bet his rallies in CA will be yuuuuuge!!

    For sure! Only I can't find any speaking engagements near Sacramento. Surely he will come to our state capitol which is an hour away but I can't find an event. Argh!
    They are usually announced within a week of the event.
    Thanks! I get Bernie emails all the time so I'll be watching.
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  • Free
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    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    I bet his rallies in CA will be yuuuuuge!!

    For sure! Only I can't find any speaking engagements near Sacramento. Surely he will come to our state capitol which is an hour away but I can't find an event. Argh!
    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    I bet his rallies in CA will be yuuuuuge!!

    For sure! Only I can't find any speaking engagements near Sacramento. Surely he will come to our state capitol which is an hour away but I can't find an event. Argh!
    They are usually announced within a week of the event.
    Thanks! I get Bernie emails all the time so I'll be watching.
    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    I bet his rallies in CA will be yuuuuuge!!

    For sure! Only I can't find any speaking engagements near Sacramento. Surely he will come to our state capitol which is an hour away but I can't find an event. Argh!
    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    I bet his rallies in CA will be yuuuuuge!!

    For sure! Only I can't find any speaking engagements near Sacramento. Surely he will come to our state capitol which is an hour away but I can't find an event. Argh!
    They are usually announced within a week of the event.
    Thanks! I get Bernie emails all the time so I'll be watching.
    Stay tuned to local news, too.
  • Free
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    From last night, Ed's a fan of Bernie:
    (Ed talks about the amount of information we are subject to in the modern age as compared to the 17th century and how all of that information can wear you down. He talks about politicians spewing BS and promoting fear. He suggests that the networks like to make sure that elections go “all seven games” for ratings. He suggests that Bernie Sanders might be the best candidate but the press has a business to run. Ed describes the next song as one of the best ever that describes that feeling of being overwhelmed by all the bad news and fear mongering in the world.
    26. Driven To Tears-(Sting). Special Guest Sting (Ed sings the top of the song then Sting comes out to sing the rest.)
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    He said something Sunday night too. Why are there no entertaining posts about this? Has this train stalled?
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  • Free
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    ldent42 said:

    He said something Sunday night too. Why are there no entertaining posts about this? Has this train stalled?
    I came here to be entertained!

    14. Wishlist (Ed lyrically expresses interest in running for president, confident he could do a better job than Trump or Cruz and manages to make a small penis joke. And while he likes Hillary he is feeling ‘The Bern’. He goes on to encourage young people to go out and vote and stay active politically.)
  • Free
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    Meanwhile... Sanders wins Indiana!
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,316
    I know several people I work with voted for Sanders ... but they are Republicans and did it in a strategy to defeat Clinton
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,385
    Jason P said:

    I know several people I work with voted for Sanders ... but they are Republicans and did it in a strategy to defeat Clinton

    Jason, forgive me for my lack of knowledge on how primaries work in the States, but I thought you had to affiliate with either Democrats or Republicans prior to the primaries, in order to cast a vote for one of their running candidates? Weren't there just big fusses in fact over how hard it was to switch your affiliation, and some people's affiliations being switched beforehand without their consent? I'm surprised to hear this can be exploited in the other direction too (too many votes as opposed to too few).
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  • Jason P
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    benjs said:

    Jason P said:

    I know several people I work with voted for Sanders ... but they are Republicans and did it in a strategy to defeat Clinton

    Jason, forgive me for my lack of knowledge on how primaries work in the States, but I thought you had to affiliate with either Democrats or Republicans prior to the primaries, in order to cast a vote for one of their running candidates? Weren't there just big fusses in fact over how hard it was to switch your affiliation, and some people's affiliations being switched beforehand without their consent? I'm surprised to hear this can be exploited in the other direction too (too many votes as opposed to too few).
    That's what I thought, but I guess it varies state to state. I went in, they asked which party I wanted to vote for, and then I voted. I'm not registered to either party.
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  • Free
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    5 Reasons Bernie Sanders Wins Big With Cruz Dropout

    http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/05/03/5-reasons-bernie-sanders-wins-big-cruz-dropout

    Here are five immediate repercussions to Ted Cruz dropping out of the Republican primary:

    1. News coverage for the Democratic primary, and thus Bernie Sanders, will increase exponentially — immediately.

    Without Trump in the field, all of the focus on future election nights — nine states and several territories over the next 45 days — will be on Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

    2. Sanders will pick up a huge number of what would otherwise be Trump votes in states where voters are still able to register for upcoming Democratic primaries, or are able to cross over and vote in the Democratic primary due to being a registered independent.


    Sanders’ vote share in nearly every upcoming primary and caucus just increased, though we don’t know by how much. In some instances, it could be a substantial bump, given that there’s no strategic reason to cast a vote for Donald Trump anymore — now that the Republican National Committee has officially declared him the presumptive nominee and a John Kasich dropout is likely imminent.

    3. Clinton will have to start spending a great deal of money to fight a two-front war against Donald Trump, who’ll begin his ultra-negative primary campaign against Clinton immediately, and Bernie Sanders, who will avoid attacking Clinton directly but has nevertheless vowed to take the Democratic primary to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.

    This is the worst imaginable scenario for Clinton, as her negatives have always gone up when she’s in the midst of a campaign — and now she’s in the middle of two at once. With Clinton’s attention divided, her ability to respond to any Bernie Sanders surge in upcoming states will be limited.

    4. Sanders now has a greatly increased chance of winning all of the remaining Democratic primaries and caucuses.

    Sanders was already looking strong in Oregon, West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota, Kentucky, North Dakota, and California, but given that he’s within single digits in New Jersey (where Trump is very popular) and performed incredibly well with nonwhite voters in Indiana (meaning New Mexico could be in play), it’s not unthinkable that Hillary Clinton could lose all of the remaining primaries and caucuses and therefore as many as thirteen or fourteen contests in a row to finish the Democratic primary season.

    This would send Clinton to Philly a deeply wounded front-runner, even if she maintains a strong (but much diminished) delegate lead over Sanders. So there’s a chance that Clinton will go to Philly with a delegate lead but also having lost 22 or 23 of the final 30 contests in the Democratic primary.

    If that happens, it’s tough to say how super-delegates will view a Clinton candidacy, especially now that the latest national polling (Rasmussen) already has her down by two points to Trump.

    If that happens, it’s tough to say how super-delegates will view a Clinton candidacy, especially now that the latest national polling (Rasmussen) already has her down by two points to Trump.

    5. The Democrats will have a contested convention, and the Republicans won’t.

    Few saw this coming, but assuming Bernie Sanders maintains his pledge to contest the Democratic convention unless Clinton can get 2,383 pledged delegates by June 14th — which she can’t, barring a miracle — only one of the two major parties will go to their convention divided, and with (not for nothing) the sort of logistical hurdles that come with that. For instance, when does Clinton roll out a Vice Presidential candidate? Before a convention she knows will be contested? At a time when a few super-delegates might abandon her?

    The larger question: do some quantity of super-delegates switch to Sanders if the possibilities explored in items #1 through #4 above — particularly with respect to the upcoming primaries and caucuses — come to pass?

    All we know for sure is that Ted Cruz dropping out of the Republican race has changed the Democratic race almost as profoundly as the Republican one.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,542
    Just a thought - don't know if it was commented here - but wouldn't be a terrible idea for Hills to bring Bern on as VP candidate.
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    benjs said:

    Jason P said:

    I know several people I work with voted for Sanders ... but they are Republicans and did it in a strategy to defeat Clinton

    Jason, forgive me for my lack of knowledge on how primaries work in the States, but I thought you had to affiliate with either Democrats or Republicans prior to the primaries, in order to cast a vote for one of their running candidates? Weren't there just big fusses in fact over how hard it was to switch your affiliation, and some people's affiliations being switched beforehand without their consent? I'm surprised to hear this can be exploited in the other direction too (too many votes as opposed to too few).
    It depends on the state. Open primaries, closed primaries, and caucuses! Oh my!
    In NY you had to affiliate way in advance. Some other states you need to affiliate but you can do it as late as day of. The whole thing is stupid.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,385
    ldent42 said:

    benjs said:

    Jason P said:

    I know several people I work with voted for Sanders ... but they are Republicans and did it in a strategy to defeat Clinton

    Jason, forgive me for my lack of knowledge on how primaries work in the States, but I thought you had to affiliate with either Democrats or Republicans prior to the primaries, in order to cast a vote for one of their running candidates? Weren't there just big fusses in fact over how hard it was to switch your affiliation, and some people's affiliations being switched beforehand without their consent? I'm surprised to hear this can be exploited in the other direction too (too many votes as opposed to too few).
    It depends on the state. Open primaries, closed primaries, and caucuses! Oh my!
    In NY you had to affiliate way in advance. Some other states you need to affiliate but you can do it as late as day of. The whole thing is stupid.
    Bizarre. I can't wrap my head around this - seems so absurd to have different rules and regulations depending on what state you live in. So much for united.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,713
    I don't know why the US has to make it so complicated. Why don't the parties just do a nice, simple internal nomination and vote for their leader and that's it? Canada does it that way, no fuss, no muss, no idiocy, no media feeding frenzy.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJ_Soul said:

    I don't know why the US has to make it so complicated. Why don't the parties just do a nice, simple internal nomination and vote for their leader and that's it? Canada does it that way, no fuss, no muss, no idiocy, no media feeding frenzy.

    I think the reasons are basically three fold. 1) we are slow to change, 2) we like things to be complicated and 3) media frenzy is an integral part of our political system and national psyche.

    Look how different U.S. and Canadian media are:

    http://www.upworthy.com/this-side-by-side-comparison-of-american-and-canadian-media-on-the-parliament-shooting-says-a-lot
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    edited May 2016
    benjs said:

    ldent42 said:

    benjs said:

    Jason P said:

    I know several people I work with voted for Sanders ... but they are Republicans and did it in a strategy to defeat Clinton

    Jason, forgive me for my lack of knowledge on how primaries work in the States, but I thought you had to affiliate with either Democrats or Republicans prior to the primaries, in order to cast a vote for one of their running candidates? Weren't there just big fusses in fact over how hard it was to switch your affiliation, and some people's affiliations being switched beforehand without their consent? I'm surprised to hear this can be exploited in the other direction too (too many votes as opposed to too few).
    It depends on the state. Open primaries, closed primaries, and caucuses! Oh my!
    In NY you had to affiliate way in advance. Some other states you need to affiliate but you can do it as late as day of. The whole thing is stupid.
    Bizarre. I can't wrap my head around this - seems so absurd to have different rules and regulations depending on what state you live in. So much for united.
    Remember that this country was founded as an affiliation of individual states, held together by the Constitution. The push/pull between state and federal has always been the great debate in this country. The Civil War certainly answered some of the questions, but the state has always had a great tradition as the 'laboratory of democracy'. It's one of the very unique qualities of the American system.
    The Tenth Amendment states that all rights not specifically granted to the Federal Gov't are reserved for the people or the states. The primary processes are not addressed in the Constitution, therefore reserved to the state.
  • Free
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    Second Brooklyn Elex Official To Be Suspended After Primary Foul Up

    http://www.wnyc.org/story/second-brooklyn-elex-official-suspended-after-primary-foul/
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    It’s Happening: Democratic Party Officials to Vote on Eliminating Superdelegates

    http://usuncut.com/news/maine-dem-superdelegates/

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Free said:

    It’s Happening: Democratic Party Officials to Vote on Eliminating Superdelegates

    http://usuncut.com/news/maine-dem-superdelegates/

    "This proposal comes in the wake of public outcry after Sanders received nearly double the votes of Hillary Clinton in the state’s caucus (64%-35%), but only 1 of the 5 available superdelegates."

    What a joke this rigged system is. How can people not want to see it changed is beyond me.
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  • Free
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    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    It’s Happening: Democratic Party Officials to Vote on Eliminating Superdelegates

    http://usuncut.com/news/maine-dem-superdelegates/

    "This proposal comes in the wake of public outcry after Sanders received nearly double the votes of Hillary Clinton in the state’s caucus (64%-35%), but only 1 of the 5 available superdelegates."

    What a joke this rigged system is. How can people not want to see it changed is beyond me.
    Good on Maine, eh?
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