Canadian Politics Redux

dignin

Multiple dead, 2 arrested in shooting at Quebec City mosque
'Quebec categorically reject this barbaric violence,' says Philippe Couillard

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686

ledvedderman

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

This is good.
Canada will increase its funding to international organizations that provide abortion-related services after U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order blocking American funding for those services.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.3955517/canada-to-increase-reproductive-health-funding-as-trump-orders-cut-1.3955523

So by saying this action is good, are you saying that what the President did was ___________?

DarthMaeglin

If I'm going to be a critic, I also have to give credit when (I think) it's due.

I'm glad to hear Trudeau condemn last night's tragedy as a terrorist attack (even though the investigation may disprove that motive as it progresses), in contrast to his reaction to the 2 attacks a couple years ago.

Also, despite my dislike of his largely non-answers during his "listening tour" (and my cynicism around his motivation behind the tour), I have to give him credit for giving the average voter such access to a sitting PM. There was a good column in yesterday's Sun pushing the idea that these "town halls" should be the norm and not the exception.

PJfanwillneverleave1

ledvedderman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

This is good.
Canada will increase its funding to international organizations that provide abortion-related services after U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order blocking American funding for those services.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.3955517/canada-to-increase-reproductive-health-funding-as-trump-orders-cut-1.3955523

So by saying this action is good, are you saying that what the President did was ___________?

Of course it's bad.

polaris_x

soo ... how long before the liberals run through their focus groups to decide what to say about the travel ban? ...

PJ_Soul

polaris_x said:

soo ... how long before the liberals run through their focus groups to decide what to say about the travel ban? ...

What do you mean? I thought Trudeau was already pretty explicit about it. What more do you want them to say? Or what options do you think they'd be considering? Are you wondering how they will diplomatically deal with Trump et al?

polaris_x

PJ_Soul said:

polaris_x said:

soo ... how long before the liberals run through their focus groups to decide what to say about the travel ban? ...

What do you mean? I thought Trudeau was already pretty explicit about it. What more do you want them to say? Or what options do you think they'd be considering? Are you wondering how they will diplomatically deal with Trump et al?

i haven't heard anything substantive from him ... what has he said?

Drowned Out

polaris_x said:

soo ... how long before the liberals run through their focus groups to decide what to say about the travel ban? ...

Does an emergency debate in parliament count?
Live now:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1656193291352292&id=1541839722787650

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Thanks for this.
Our politics are very boring compared to others.

polaris_x

Drowned Out said:

polaris_x said:

soo ... how long before the liberals run through their focus groups to decide what to say about the travel ban? ...

Does an emergency debate in parliament count?
Live now:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1656193291352292&id=1541839722787650

it's been 2 days and there really hasn't been much come out of him ...

http://www.metronews.ca/views/2017/01/31/trudeau-trump-refugees-immigration-canadian-citizens.html

dignin

Motherfuckers

Trudeau government abandons promise of electoral reform
New mandate for democratic institutions minister does not include reform

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-electoral-reform-mandate-1.3961736

polaris_x

dignin said:

Motherfuckers

Trudeau government abandons promise of electoral reform
New mandate for democratic institutions minister does not include reform

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-electoral-reform-mandate-1.3961736

knew this was coming ... what a turd ...

between pipelines, arms deals to saudis and electoral reform - this guy is sucks ... liberals being liberals ...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Greyhound decapitator/mutilator seeks full discharge.

Why not? What could possible go wrong?

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/01/31/vince-li-killer-who-beheaded-passenger-aboard-a-greyhound-in-2008-seeks-full-discharge-family

Thirty Bills Unpaid

He's fixed! Pshew.

"Baker has been described as a "model patient" who no longer suffers from the type of issues that triggered the July 2008 attack near Portage la Prairie. He was found not criminally responsible for the killing, dismemberment and cannibalization of McLean, 22, after several medical experts said he was suffering from command hallucinations linked to untreated schizophrenia at the time of the unprovoked attack."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/tim-mcleans-killer-seeking-absolute-discharge-from-criminal-system-family-412241023.html

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Greyhound decapitator/mutilator seeks full discharge.

Why not? What could possible go wrong?

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/01/31/vince-li-killer-who-beheaded-passenger-aboard-a-greyhound-in-2008-seeks-full-discharge-family

With no conditions for his release, a LOT. Of course that horrible crime was 100% due to a terrible mental illness, and if they guy absolutely adheres to his medication schedule, then nothing would go wrong. But that could only be ensured if he is released with conditions - someone has to be monitoring him for life to ensure that he's meeting the medical requirements that will prevent him from being a danger due to his mental illness. Without that, this idea is crazy.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

He's fixed! Pshew.

"Baker has been described as a "model patient" who no longer suffers from the type of issues that triggered the July 2008 attack near Portage la Prairie. He was found not criminally responsible for the killing, dismemberment and cannibalization of McLean, 22, after several medical experts said he was suffering from command hallucinations linked to untreated schizophrenia at the time of the unprovoked attack."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/tim-mcleans-killer-seeking-absolute-discharge-from-criminal-system-family-412241023.html

I don't understand why you're so snotty and uppity about this, even if you think he should never be released. He is profoundly mentally ill. You don't save any compassion for someone who literally had ZERO control over his actions?? Are you just ignorant to the nature of his illness, or do you just not distinguish between evil and mental illness? Or are you simply being insensitive?

rustneversleeps

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

He's fixed! Pshew.

"Baker has been described as a "model patient" who no longer suffers from the type of issues that triggered the July 2008 attack near Portage la Prairie. He was found not criminally responsible for the killing, dismemberment and cannibalization of McLean, 22, after several medical experts said he was suffering from command hallucinations linked to untreated schizophrenia at the time of the unprovoked attack."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/tim-mcleans-killer-seeking-absolute-discharge-from-criminal-system-family-412241023.html

will they hang this guy?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

He's fixed! Pshew.

"Baker has been described as a "model patient" who no longer suffers from the type of issues that triggered the July 2008 attack near Portage la Prairie. He was found not criminally responsible for the killing, dismemberment and cannibalization of McLean, 22, after several medical experts said he was suffering from command hallucinations linked to untreated schizophrenia at the time of the unprovoked attack."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/tim-mcleans-killer-seeking-absolute-discharge-from-criminal-system-family-412241023.html

I don't understand why you're so snotty and uppity about this, even if you think he should never be released. He is profoundly mentally ill. You don't save any compassion for someone who literally had ZERO control over his actions?? Are you just ignorant to the nature of his illness, or do you just not distinguish between evil and mental illness? Or are you simply being insensitive?

Understanding the capacity for violence if his illness is mismanaged... do you think it's a good idea to release this guy? He's seeking 'absolute discharge'. In other words... what's done is done and I'm ready to rock!

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

He's fixed! Pshew.

"Baker has been described as a "model patient" who no longer suffers from the type of issues that triggered the July 2008 attack near Portage la Prairie. He was found not criminally responsible for the killing, dismemberment and cannibalization of McLean, 22, after several medical experts said he was suffering from command hallucinations linked to untreated schizophrenia at the time of the unprovoked attack."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/tim-mcleans-killer-seeking-absolute-discharge-from-criminal-system-family-412241023.html

I don't understand why you're so snotty and uppity about this, even if you think he should never be released. He is profoundly mentally ill. You don't save any compassion for someone who literally had ZERO control over his actions?? Are you just ignorant to the nature of his illness, or do you just not distinguish between evil and mental illness? Or are you simply being insensitive?

Understanding the capacity for violence if his illness is mismanaged... do you think it's a good idea to release this guy? He's seeking 'absolute discharge'. In other words... what's done is done and I'm ready to rock!

I already stated what my opinion about his release is above.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

He's fixed! Pshew.

"Baker has been described as a "model patient" who no longer suffers from the type of issues that triggered the July 2008 attack near Portage la Prairie. He was found not criminally responsible for the killing, dismemberment and cannibalization of McLean, 22, after several medical experts said he was suffering from command hallucinations linked to untreated schizophrenia at the time of the unprovoked attack."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/tim-mcleans-killer-seeking-absolute-discharge-from-criminal-system-family-412241023.html

I don't understand why you're so snotty and uppity about this, even if you think he should never be released. He is profoundly mentally ill. You don't save any compassion for someone who literally had ZERO control over his actions?? Are you just ignorant to the nature of his illness, or do you just not distinguish between evil and mental illness? Or are you simply being insensitive?

Understanding the capacity for violence if his illness is mismanaged... do you think it's a good idea to release this guy? He's seeking 'absolute discharge'. In other words... what's done is done and I'm ready to rock!

I already stated what my opinion about his release is above.

So what's your problem? We both think an absolute discharge is f**king nuts.