Canadian Politics Redux

dignin

It's about showing some respect. Even if you don't give a shit about the anthem or national pride a lot of people still do. I'm an atheist but I wouldn't go in a church and shit all over their lords prayer, only an asshole would do that.....and this guy was an asshole.

lukin2006

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Why not?
Are you originally from Canada?

Canadian I am

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin said:

It's about showing some respect. Even if you don't give a shit about the anthem or national pride a lot of people still do. I'm an atheist but I wouldn't go in a church and shit all over their lords prayer, only an asshole would do that.....and this guy was an asshole.

Through and through. Don't forget he also did that unbeknownst to his fellow band members. Pretty douchey.

PJ_Soul

dignin said:

It's about showing some respect. Even if you don't give a shit about the anthem or national pride a lot of people still do. I'm an atheist but I wouldn't go in a church and shit all over their lords prayer, only an asshole would do that.....and this guy was an asshole.

I didn't say I don't have any national pride or that I don't give a shit about the anthem. That isn't true at all actually. But that doesn't mean I am going to get all "American" about someone changing the lyrics. That is absolutely anyone's right. I think it's quite "anti-Canadian" to suggest that someone shouldn't do that if they want to. And I think it is a s0ectscular waste of time to complain about someone doing that. I think the message that this doofus decided to try and disseminate is a much bigger concern.

lukin2006

^^^and if you've noticed the media coverage over something so trivial ... exactly what the media, politicians and their corporate masters want...that way we're distracted from important issues, seems to have worked a little...in my opinion.

lukin2006

lukin2006 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Why not?
Are you originally from Canada?

Canadian I am

Then that's an issue between the band. Life will go on.

PJfanwillneverleave1

lukin2006 said:

^^^ please enough with the soldiers bullshit.

I missed this part. I just read it as enough with the bullshit.
What do you have against soldiers/the fallen?

PJfanwillneverleave1

PJ_Soul said:

I don't give a shit if he changed the words to the anthem. It honestly never even occurred to me to be bothered by that part. I am offended only by the whole "all lives matter" bullshit.

So you do not agree that it should simply be "all lives matter"?

lukin2006

^^^absolutely nothing against soldiers, I have a great deal of respect for soldiers past and present. Using soldiers to support the argument against what this fellow did is not necessary, soldiers fought for freedom and rights of many different nations, kind of a tired line ... People are entitled to have varying opinions about the athem incident.

PJfanwillneverleave1

What a mess this stupid gang of thugs are.
They need to just all collectively shut up. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/the-controversy-surrounding-black-lives-matter-in-canada/ar-BBul4oo?li=AAggv0m&ocid=mailsignout

It was following such a moment of silence that dozens of Black Lives Matter members stopped marching and sat down at a major intersection, bringing the parade to a halt.

“Pride Toronto, we are calling you out for your anti-blackness,” another co-founder, Alexandria Williams, shouted into a megaphone.

Your racism is showing,” Khan said into a megaphone. Rodney Diverlus, 25, another co-founder who, like Khan, identifies as queer, read aloud a list of demands that included more Pride funding for a black queer youth group, the hiring by Pride of more black transwomen and indigenous people, and the removal of police floats from future parades.

“The presence of police might make some of y’all safe,” Diverlus said, “but it makes a whole lot of people in our community unsafe. And if you’re down for an inclusive Pride, you are down for a police-free Pride.”

PJfanwillneverleave1

lukin2006 said:

^^^absolutely nothing against soldiers, I have a great deal of respect for soldiers past and present. Using soldiers to support the argument against what this fellow did is not necessary, soldiers fought for freedom and rights of many different nations, kind of a tired line ... People are entitled to have varying opinions about the athem incident.

I wasn't really using it to support it fully just pointing out that the anthem to our flag is how all fallen soldiers are remembered and the present ones serve under.
It is not a tired line when any jackass can desecrate it.
Time and place never forget.

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

I don't give a shit if he changed the words to the anthem. It honestly never even occurred to me to be bothered by that part. I am offended only by the whole "all lives matter" bullshit.

So you do not agree that it should simply be "all lives matter"?

Obviously not.

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
So I asked someone in another thread and they dodged/didn't answer.
Do you fully support and agree with what BLM states on their website?

Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks’ contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
So I asked someone in another thread and they dodged/didn't answer.
Do you fully support and agree with what BLM states on their website?

Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks’ contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

I have no problem with the statement - i at least underatand why they make that statement or feel the need to - but really I just think the "all lives matter" thing is disgusting. It is so insultingly dismissive of what I acknowledge as a crisis for black people in the US.

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
This racist movement is starting to infect Canada too. Once a fringe group? Bullshit.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/black-lives-matter-meeting-with-wynne-tory-grows-heated/article30934150/

Black Lives Matter, once a fringe activist group, has converted growing public awareness into meetings with high-ranking officials. A pair of recent high-profile shootings of black men by police in the United States has galvanized supporters and reignited public debate about racism in Canada.

I want to be uncivil,” yelled one person in attendance, cutting off Ms. Wynne as she wrapped up her remarks. “I’m not angry, I’m disappointed. Do your job.”

blah, blah shut up


Every life matters.

lukin2006

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

lukin2006 said:

^^^absolutely nothing against soldiers, I have a great deal of respect for soldiers past and present. Using soldiers to support the argument against what this fellow did is not necessary, soldiers fought for freedom and rights of many different nations, kind of a tired line ... People are entitled to have varying opinions about the athem incident.

I wasn't really using it to support it fully just pointing out that the anthem to our flag is how all fallen soldiers are remembered and the present ones serve under.
It is not a tired line when any jackass can desecrate it.
Time and place never forget.

well then knock yourself out wrapping yourself around the flag while singing the national anthem (just google for the correct version)...

I'll remember our soldiers in my way...

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Well I hope you have the decency to stand when played.

lukin2006

^^^dude, just chill, maybe smoke a fattie.

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Well I hope you have the decency to stand when played.

I think my eyes just rolled up behind my brain.

PJfanwillneverleave1

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Well I hope you have the decency to stand when played.

I think my eyes just rolled up behind my brain.

Well at least it's a short roll.

What do you do? Sit in protest?