Canadian Politics Redux

HughFreakingDillon

Meltdown99 said:

The comment of the week on these forums was “I hated Harper because he was a  misogynist.”(no evidence) so what will I do…I support a known racist and misogynist (plenty of evidence)..This place is so predicable…not mention the continued lies to the indigenous peoples…and now a power grab by weak man…

it seems your ignore function is broken. 

where is this "support" you see? I'm not supporting trudeau. I want these fuckers to go home and stop disrupting people's lives and livelihoods. you realize they can be separate issues, right? one does not have to blindly love or hate a politician to hold a position?

Meltdown99

This is the guy I’d take health advice from…salad and exercise is not his agenda…

oftenreading

Sure, some people who support necessary restrictions have been working from home. 

Some have been working in our hospitals and medical clinics and outreach teams for the last two years, trying to provide safe medical care to growing numbers of patients

HughFreakingDillon

oftenreading said:

Sure, some people who support necessary restrictions have been working from home. 

Some have been working in our hospitals and medical clinics and outreach teams for the last two years, trying to provide safe medical care to growing numbers of patients

meh, you lazy liberal hospital workers. how bad could it have been these last two years, keeping people alive who refused to do one simple thing to help themselves and society, listening to people say the vaccines aren't effective, while piling up the bodies. how hard could it have been?

HughFreakingDillon

DarthMaeglin said:

dignin said:

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dignin said:

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dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

He is only doing this to change his 16% approval rating…lmfao.

So you admit cracking down on the insurgents is a popular move?

Worst insurgency ever, lol! Instead of storming the seat of government they hold dance parties! The horror…the horror…

Guess you missed the latest news. 

Yes, I saw your post. As I’ve said, we’re setting new standards, so we’ll see how this goes. Who knows how many weapons were on site at the railroad blockades? We’ll never know now, obviously.

Your defense is a hypothetical. You have to know you're on really weak ground.

It's time to distance yourself from these extremists. 

The other night I was told I was normalizing anti-Semitism and racism because I wasn’t going to paint the entire group based on the actions of a couple/few participants. This whole thing has gotten far out of hand, primarily spurred on by a Prime Minister that has shown no interest in actually uniting people (his idea of unison is apparently his way or the hiway). This whole mess actually lands directly at his feet, actually, unless members of his own caucus are lying (Trudeau I guess (?) deserves credit for not calling the stories fake news).

As long as people want to force a medication into others (by pressure or force) I will always stand against that. But I’m not supposed to mention the very limited effectiveness of said medication.

I’ll guess you missed my post earlier where I said I didn’t know what to think about these protesters anymore. Expecting them to be treated and judged by the same standards as previous protests isn’t allowed anymore. One group in Alberta isn’t necessarily representative of the Ottawa group, tempting as it may be to link the two.

 I guess the Caledon blockade that’s been going for years is the next one to take down? Having the head of Ryerson on a pike tells me that group is likely to be violent.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/12/jen-psaki/data-suggests-unvaccinated-are-20-times-more-likel/

if scientists discovered/created a medication that reduces death in cancer patients by 20 times, would you still call it ineffective? it would be heralded as the greatest modern medical discovery since penicillin FFS. 

I have no clue why you still keep claiming (incorrectly) that it is ineffective. 

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

dignin said:

DarthMaeglin said:

dignin said:

DarthMaeglin said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

He is only doing this to change his 16% approval rating…lmfao.

So you admit cracking down on the insurgents is a popular move?

Worst insurgency ever, lol! Instead of storming the seat of government they hold dance parties! The horror…the horror…

Guess you missed the latest news. 

Yes, I saw your post. As I’ve said, we’re setting new standards, so we’ll see how this goes. Who knows how many weapons were on site at the railroad blockades? We’ll never know now, obviously.

Your defense is a hypothetical. You have to know you're on really weak ground.

It's time to distance yourself from these extremists. 

The other night I was told I was normalizing anti-Semitism and racism because I wasn’t going to paint the entire group based on the actions of a couple/few participants. This whole thing has gotten far out of hand, primarily spurred on by a Prime Minister that has shown no interest in actually uniting people (his idea of unison is apparently his way or the hiway). This whole mess actually lands directly at his feet, actually, unless members of his own caucus are lying (Trudeau I guess (?) deserves credit for not calling the stories fake news).

As long as people want to force a medication into others (by pressure or force) I will always stand against that. But I’m not supposed to mention the very limited effectiveness of said medication.

I’ll guess you missed my post earlier where I said I didn’t know what to think about these protesters anymore. Expecting them to be treated and judged by the same standards as previous protests isn’t allowed anymore. One group in Alberta isn’t necessarily representative of the Ottawa group, tempting as it may be to link the two.

 I guess the Caledon blockade that’s been going for years is the next one to take down? Having the head of Ryerson on a pike tells me that group is likely to be violent.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/12/jen-psaki/data-suggests-unvaccinated-are-20-times-more-likel/

if scientists discovered/created a medication that reduces death in cancer patients by 20 times, would you still call it ineffective? it would be heralded as the greatest modern medical discovery since penicillin FFS. 

I have no clue why you still keep claiming (incorrectly) that it is ineffective. 

Binary world.. either something is 100% effective or it sucks.  That's why these guys take principled stances against all medications, since nothing is 100%.  I give them a lot of credit. 

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/CoryBMorgan/status/1493602611349573639?s=20&t=I25xVkYXMh7XStz4pV9mRA

When this paper has questions?

And El Salvador president saying Canada now has 0 credibilities when it comes to democracy says it all...because central America knows dictators ... they've had their share.

Meltdown99

When you two can actually make a case based on fact for using the emergency measures act ... please do.

And using politicians and media linked to the liberal party is not sufficient...

so far experts say the criteria have not been met.

In this case, just having an opinion is not good enough...

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/GraduatedBen/status/1493606468846858249?s=20&t=J5Ao3OaLyCup5lTNo1B4mQ

HughFreakingDillon

Meltdown99 said:

When you two can actually make a case based on fact for using the emergency measures act ... please do.

And using politicians and media linked to the liberal party is not sufficient...

so far experts say the criteria have not been met.

In this case, just having an opinion is not good enough...

seems the standards for us are much higher than just random hyper-partisan twitter posts. good to know. 

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/chenweihua/status/1493608151974924289?s=20&t=J5Ao3OaLyCup5lTNo1B4mQ

You know shit is bad and you are on the wrong side when even China is trolling you...you can't make this shit up...

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/buperac/status/1493612759854067715?s=20&t=voGWb_Dg9-reHafCb08dAQ

Coutts blockade coming down. We are winning, the fraud racist misogynist sack of shit has been exposed to the world as the fraud we all know he is...

mrussel1

Meltdown99 said:

https://twitter.com/buperac/status/1493612759854067715?s=20&t=voGWb_Dg9-reHafCb08dAQ

Coutts blockade coming down. We are winning, the fraud racist misogynist sack of shit has been exposed to the world as the fraud we all know he is...

Four days ago, they say they are not leaving
Trudeau invokes Emergencies Act
Today they are leaving

You claim you are winning.  Are you in bizarro world?

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/richardcitynews/status/1493616542482939914?s=21

Then quit telling us what to do…simple drop mandates now. Stop catering to the fearful. Pay for their therapy if need be…

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/222minutes/status/1493606484592238592?s=21

A government that used the emergency measures act to quiet critics is more than capable of this…plenty examples out their of the RCMP being corrupt …

Parksy

DarthMaeglin said:

dignin said:

PM invoking emergencies act.

Finally, let's deal with these clowns.

So we’re setting new standards by which all future protests will be treated, instead of treating this group as we have others in the past.

There was a good column in the National Post that pointed out many of us (myself included) have essentially reversed our positions when it comes to how to handle protests. Many who wanted dialogue and negotiation with the railroad blockades now want aggressive policing of the current group. I was simply judging this group by the standards previously established.

I think the circumstances are dictating a lot with this one.  I get what you're saying but it's hard to compare apples to oranges. 

Regarding Trudeau's move to invoke this. I haven't read the next couple pages so this could be wrong.. but I don't think many people are filling in the blanks here and talking about the right points.  What's unique about this situation from a federal perspective?  The Biden effect. 

Sounds nuts, but I think Trudeau wants the exposure here both positive and negative.  This Emergencies Act has little bite to it because it will require the boots on the ground (police) to actually do their jobs.  This was in my estimation more political theatre by the man who is one of the best political thespians in the world.  Is he doing this mostly to appease Biden and give the appearance that he's actually doing something? I think so. Is that the right move (keeping USA happy)?  I think so. 

mrussel1

Parksy said:

DarthMaeglin said:

dignin said:

PM invoking emergencies act.

Finally, let's deal with these clowns.

So we’re setting new standards by which all future protests will be treated, instead of treating this group as we have others in the past.

There was a good column in the National Post that pointed out many of us (myself included) have essentially reversed our positions when it comes to how to handle protests. Many who wanted dialogue and negotiation with the railroad blockades now want aggressive policing of the current group. I was simply judging this group by the standards previously established.

I think the circumstances are dictating a lot with this one.  I get what you're saying but it's hard to compare apples to oranges. 

Regarding Trudeau's move to invoke this. I haven't read the next couple pages so this could be wrong.. but I don't think many people are filling in the blanks here and talking about the right points.  What's unique about this situation from a federal perspective?  The Biden effect. 

Sounds nuts, but I think Trudeau wants the exposure here both positive and negative.  This Emergencies Act has little bite to it because it will require the boots on the ground (police) to actually do their jobs.  This was in my estimation more political theatre by the man who is one of the best political thespians in the world.  Is he doing this mostly to appease Biden and give the appearance that he's actually doing something? I think so. Is that the right move (keeping USA happy)?  I think so. 

Did Trudeau actually use any of the powers yet?

The Juggler

Throw down the hammer Trudeau! 

Parksy

HughFreakingDillon said:

I've always found it odd people saying "not my president" or "not my pm". even when it was trump, it sounded very whiny to me. yes, he IS your prime minister, whether you like it or not. you live in canada, he is the PM of canada. ergo he is your pm. I don't recall ever saying that harper wasn't my prime minister just because I thought he was an out of touch misogynist POS. 

Bingo.  I equate all this anti-Trudeau stuff to a team banging their sticks against the boards instead of swallowing their pride and getting to the handshake line. 

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/savyrecords/status/1493596454190997514?s=21