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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    The silver lining to this trucker convoy is that it has brought a few more posters to the Canadian Politics thread :lol: 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I’ll listen to Canadian civil liberties before I’d ever listen to the opinion of cult followers of a racist cult…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    It's okay guys. Everyone has guns, nothing to see here.

    Every farmer has handguns, bulletproof vests, high capacity magazines and machetes.

    Perfectly normal protesting behaviour. Perfectly peaceful, Jethro.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
  • Albert has hoe farms? What’s Calgary like in February?
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  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,956
    I’ll listen to Canadian civil liberties before I’d ever listen to the opinion of cult followers of a racist cult…
    I watched his speech this afternoon waiting for him to justify this overreach. All he did is say the same things that have been said about many other groups of protesters over the years.

    Thank God music still works to forget about the asshat PM (he stopped being my PM when he told us the current protesters were holders of wrongthought.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    I've always found it odd people saying "not my president" or "not my pm". even when it was trump, it sounded very whiny to me. yes, he IS your prime minister, whether you like it or not. you live in canada, he is the PM of canada. ergo he is your pm. I don't recall ever saying that harper wasn't my prime minister just because I thought he was an out of touch misogynist POS. 


    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,956
    I've always found it odd people saying "not my president" or "not my pm". even when it was trump, it sounded very whiny to me. yes, he IS your prime minister, whether you like it or not. you live in canada, he is the PM of canada. ergo he is your pm. I don't recall ever saying that harper wasn't my prime minister just because I thought he was an out of touch misogynist POS. 


    Yes, in a legal sense his is my PM, but he doesn’t speak for me anymore (I’m a nation of one, lol!), and is a straight up embarrassment to me. I have tried to give him chance after chance to show he’s not the narcissistic blowhard he presents as, but he’s proven me wrong every time.

    He says he’s not calling in the military, but can we give that statement any credibility given his history of flip flopping when it suits his purposes (the current issue of vaccine mandates being a prime example).
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I've always found it odd people saying "not my president" or "not my pm". even when it was trump, it sounded very whiny to me. yes, he IS your prime minister, whether you like it or not. you live in canada, he is the PM of canada. ergo he is your pm. I don't recall ever saying that harper wasn't my prime minister just because I thought he was an out of touch misogynist POS. 


    Yes, in a legal sense his is my PM, but he doesn’t speak for me anymore (I’m a nation of one, lol!), and is a straight up embarrassment to me. I have tried to give him chance after chance to show he’s not the narcissistic blowhard he presents as, but he’s proven me wrong every time.

    He says he’s not calling in the military, but can we give that statement any credibility given his history of flip flopping when it suits his purposes (the current issue of vaccine mandates being a prime example).
    What options does the federal govt have to break down the protest, short of emergency powers?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Do you mean the media that received 650 million from the racist tyrant? And the media is currently asking for more money, conducted a poll that spun the narrative in the tyrant's direction...shocker, I tell you I was shocked...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,956
    mrussel1 said:
    I've always found it odd people saying "not my president" or "not my pm". even when it was trump, it sounded very whiny to me. yes, he IS your prime minister, whether you like it or not. you live in canada, he is the PM of canada. ergo he is your pm. I don't recall ever saying that harper wasn't my prime minister just because I thought he was an out of touch misogynist POS. 


    Yes, in a legal sense his is my PM, but he doesn’t speak for me anymore (I’m a nation of one, lol!), and is a straight up embarrassment to me. I have tried to give him chance after chance to show he’s not the narcissistic blowhard he presents as, but he’s proven me wrong every time.

    He says he’s not calling in the military, but can we give that statement any credibility given his history of flip flopping when it suits his purposes (the current issue of vaccine mandates being a prime example).
    What options does the federal govt have to break down the protest, short of emergency powers?
    Apparently our federal police force isn’t allowed to enforce local or provincial laws unless contracted to do so. (This makes no sense to me and flies in the face of what I was taught when I briefly studied law enforcement at college.) This will give them jurisdiction apparently, and allow Trudeau’s cabinet to act without seeking authorization from the legislature (dangerous for a minority government).

    One of the worst parts of this has been that apparently when people actually engage in discussion with the protesters progress can be made. But “our” “leader” ruled that out before anyone pulled into town. And now this.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    I've always found it odd people saying "not my president" or "not my pm". even when it was trump, it sounded very whiny to me. yes, he IS your prime minister, whether you like it or not. you live in canada, he is the PM of canada. ergo he is your pm. I don't recall ever saying that harper wasn't my prime minister just because I thought he was an out of touch misogynist POS. 


    Yes, in a legal sense his is my PM, but he doesn’t speak for me anymore (I’m a nation of one, lol!), and is a straight up embarrassment to me. I have tried to give him chance after chance to show he’s not the narcissistic blowhard he presents as, but he’s proven me wrong every time.

    He says he’s not calling in the military, but can we give that statement any credibility given his history of flip flopping when it suits his purposes (the current issue of vaccine mandates being a prime example).
    What options does the federal govt have to break down the protest, short of emergency powers?
    Have you ever thought of listening to what experts in these sorts of issues in Canada have to say? Not just journalists? This guy is a good start There is currently there are another protest in Canada, one is blocking a critical pipeline...but that's fine??? Blocking shit is what Canadians do when they get riled. This is not new. Strikes/illegal Strikes/blockades are all part of who we are as Canadian...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    I've always found it odd people saying "not my president" or "not my pm". even when it was trump, it sounded very whiny to me. yes, he IS your prime minister, whether you like it or not. you live in canada, he is the PM of canada. ergo he is your pm. I don't recall ever saying that harper wasn't my prime minister just because I thought he was an out of touch misogynist POS. 


    Yes, in a legal sense his is my PM, but he doesn’t speak for me anymore (I’m a nation of one, lol!), and is a straight up embarrassment to me. I have tried to give him chance after chance to show he’s not the narcissistic blowhard he presents as, but he’s proven me wrong every time.

    He says he’s not calling in the military, but can we give that statement any credibility given his history of flip flopping when it suits his purposes (the current issue of vaccine mandates being a prime example).
    What options does the federal govt have to break down the protest, short of emergency powers?
    Apparently our federal police force isn’t allowed to enforce local or provincial laws unless contracted to do so. (This makes no sense to me and flies in the face of what I was taught when I briefly studied law enforcement at college.) This will give them jurisdiction apparently, and allow Trudeau’s cabinet to act without seeking authorization from the legislature (dangerous for a minority government).

    One of the worst parts of this has been that apparently when people actually engage in discussion with the protesters progress can be made. But “our” “leader” ruled that out before anyone pulled into town. And now this.
    So I’m not clear… there are no tools short of emergency powers or there are?

    And what’s to discuss?  You can’t give them anything close to their demands.  That’s simply not an option.  Otherwise you’re straight into mob rules.  
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 612

    Yep, your typical everyday farmer guns

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    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    erebus said:

    Yep, your typical everyday farmer guns

    Let me know if they are legal?  Of course, groups can infiltrate a protest that grows to that size.  Guns are guns...I'm sure many of those farmers had legal guns with them as well...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 612
     Guns are guns...I'm sure many of those farmers had legal guns with them as well...”

    You kind of answered your own question there
    1996: Toronto
    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
    2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Trudeau has negotiated with protestors.  A few years back Marc Miller negotiated with indigenous groups to end an indigenous rail blockade...so there is precedence.  To answer protestors' calls for an end to government overreach by adding more government overreach is laughable.

    Blockade continues despite 'modest progress' made in talks between federal minister and Tyendinaga Mohawk | CBC News
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,956
    Trudeau has negotiated with protestors.  A few years back Marc Miller negotiated with indigenous groups to end an indigenous rail blockade...so there is precedence.  To answer protestors' calls for an end to government overreach by adding more government overreach is laughable.

    Blockade continues despite 'modest progress' made in talks between federal minister and Tyendinaga Mohawk | CBC News
    We're setting the new precedent at the moment.  If there's any consolation, now that they're turning back foreign actors at the border, no more visits (and stern lectures) from Greta!  Oh wait, she's with the righteous, lol.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022