Mansfield I - BEST SHOW OF TOUR SO FAR
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The show was shorter than most during the tour, but unlike MSG I and II or Hartford, This show had everything and a tight selection of tunes that were both slow and fast and showed off there talent more and the crowd was BY FAR the best i've seen since 2006.
The noise during the 1.5 minute cheer for Betterman will be legendary.
A longer show doesn't mean a bettershow. We got a look of songs through the years last night. I heard Indifference was scratched off and i wish after Alive they would've done Indifference to close, but easily a short and to the point great show.
The I's is Manfield are historically better than the 2's but i am hopefull.
Of course nothing beats Mansfield III from 06
The noise during the 1.5 minute cheer for Betterman will be legendary.
A longer show doesn't mean a bettershow. We got a look of songs through the years last night. I heard Indifference was scratched off and i wish after Alive they would've done Indifference to close, but easily a short and to the point great show.
The I's is Manfield are historically better than the 2's but i am hopefull.
Of course nothing beats Mansfield III from 06
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Have you ever heard a Garden cheer? You think your show is the best because you went. But if you want to be factual these MSG shows were amazing. McCready said MSG 2 has to be his favorite show EVER.
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Set 1 Hard To Imagine, Save You, Why Go, All Night, Corduroy, Faithfull, Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town, Down, Unemployable, Given To Fly, Who You Are, Whipping, 1/2 Full, Even Flow, Present Tense, Daughter, Do The Evolution
Encore 1 Love Reign O'er Me, W.M.A., Leash, Spin The Black Circle, Wasted Reprise, Porch
Encore 2 No More, Crazy Mary, Comatose, I Believe In Miracles, Alive
Encore 3 All Along The Watchtower, Indifference
6/25
Set 1 Release, World Wide Suicide, Severed Hand, Corduroy, All Night, Cropduster, Garden, Marker In The Sand, I'm Open, Wishlist, State Of Love And Trust, Even Flow, Who You Are, Rats, Given To Fly, Do The Evolution, Go
Encore 1 Inside Job, W.M.A., Lukin, I Believe In Miracles, Better Man(Save it for Later), Rearviewmirror
Encore 2 No More, Last Kiss, Why Go, Black Diamond, Alive, Yellow Ledbetter
6/28
Set 1 Hard To Imagine, Why Go, Hail Hail, Comatose, Low Light, Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town, Corduroy, Faithfull, Off He Goes, Given To Fly, Down, I'm Open, I Got Id, Even Flow, Do The Evolution, Once, Rearviewmirror
Encore 1 Love Reign O'er Me, Come Back, Insignificance, Black, Better Man(Save it for Later)
Encore 2 No More, State Of Love And Trust, Alive
Mansfield was basically MSG 3.
I would put Hartford before Mansfield. Maybe even MSG 1.
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you had a great time and that is really all that matters. The over analyzing gets a bit ridiculous at times.
Im glad you had a good time
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No that I dont believe you, just curious as to where/when/to whom he said that to.
If it was a fan, maybe he says that to fans often at the shows? I dont know, but he has played a lot of shows, and I was at MSG 1 and 2 and they were both amazing- but best show ever....thats heavy, not unjustified, but seems kinda weird. Its like when you review an employee and only comment on things that have happened in the last month instead of taking in to account the whole year that they worked. Have I said too much? Sorry.
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I guess the guys relaxing at the Kings of Leon's house the day before helped
I believe it, it is the best setlist IMHO
1. Hartford
2. Bonnaroo
3. MSG Night 2
4. Virginia Beach
5. Boston Night 1
6. DC
7. MSG Night 1
8. Camden Night 1
Didn't go to W. Palm Beach, Tampa, Camden, 2 or South Carolina so thats my order of which shows were the Best. Hartford no question the best show so far. BreakerFall hasn't been played that much a few times here and there. USA hasn't heard it since 2004 VFC in Michigan.
Destroying DC Scum.
You think MSG was the best because you went.
This whole "one up man ship" between Pearl Jam fans is getting ridiclious.
MSG were also really amazing. The setlists were great (got to hear Indifference!!). And the thing that stands out the most about MSG was the crowd. When the guys first came on stage for night 1, the wall of sound coming from the crowd was just incredible. It was chilling.
Really, after being at Camden, which is just like a Mansfield show I would assume, you can't compare Mansfield and MSG. They are very different from each other. The vibe is totally different at a place like Mansfield than in a place like MSG.
The other point I want to make is this; remember that Ed makes up the setlist every night with the vibe of the crowd and the venue that night. While it may turn out that the setlist, when compared to others, isn't that great, it may have been the PERFECT setlist for that night. He chooses the setlist to make it the best show on that specific night, the one that the crowd will react best to. Because I'll tell you right now, even on the lawn in Camden, people were belting out the words to almost every song. It was a perfect setlist for that night. So all this nonsense about setlists is ridiculous. And remember, if you guys had seen a setlist like Mansfield 1 at all during the 06 tour, you would've flipped out. Saying it's mediocre is just not appropriate.
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Everyone likes different songs, everyone likes different venues, everyone has different experiences based on who they are with, who they are sitting around, how drunk they are, etc etc etc ....
Every damn "best show" opinion is just that, opinion ... it's YOUR favorite list, and not anyone else's ...
There is no right or wrong here folks.
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1. Hartford
2. MSG 1
3. MSG 2
4. Mansfield 1 (I thought this was the 3rd worst show I've seen) - still good but more greatest hits than anything...sort of a festival set and Eddie was pissed about something all night.
See everyone at Mansfield 2!
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The only part you got right was about Mansfield 3 years ago.
I've been to every show this tour and over 60 in my life..the show last night was near the bottom of my list for all time shows.
Set list was bellow average for this tour and it was the shortest.
The band was not nearly as into it as the night before in Hartford.
sorry but I was expecting a better show from Boston 1.
Betterman cheering was great..but that's not a band highlight...just a great crowd.
By the way..the next show will be just as short...strict 11pm curfew in Mansfield now.
"factual"? really. where are said facts?
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it was standard...anyone who was at Hartford and this show wont even compare the two. Not Close.
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So far the 2 MSG shows, Hartford, and DC are my top picks
8/7/08, 6/9/09
it's people who need to fill some void in their empty lives. they need that "thing" that makes them feel superior to others.
Boston 1 ranks in the bottom 3 for me. The set (besides like 3 songs) are standard and in no way memorable compared to the other shows. Wow people cheered during Betterman, congratulations.
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It seemed like to me the only people getting into were the lucky ones in the pit area. I had friends in the lawn and they said it was completely dead. I can't stand Great Woods, play TD Banknorth please or play 3 nights in Hartford instead since it seemed like they enjoyed themselves a hell of a lot more than last night. What was Ed pissed off about? Speakers, the Marines recruiting, what was it?
I was happy to hear Come Back, but everything else was pretty standard. The Betterman thing was cool, but it was kind of overdrawn and probably cost an extra song at the end like Porch or Indifference cough cough. Here's to Monday being a hell of a lot better, maybe the boys will do something crazy like forfeit their pay and break curfew, or do another experiment, whatever they do, it will sure as hell be better than the travesty that was last nights show. Boston crowd was terrible, nothing compared to MSG.
I am really sorry about the negative post, its such a downer, and I feel really spoiled and bratty, but I just didn't have as good of time as I did at the MSGs or Hartford.
EDIT: I forgot about Once, that was cool to hear. It wasn't a bad show, just not as good as the past 3.
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