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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    Brisk. said:

    pdalowsky said:

    The band owes us nothing

    I disagree. Without their fans they don't have a career. We pay their salaries. If a band member or management came out and said that then I'd be done as a fan.
    I think the message there was the band foist owe us a heads up on a tour they cannot announce yet for probably comtractual reasons.

    Telling folk there will be a tour announced next week really doesn't help much. I don't believe they have ever said 'we're announcing dates on this date'.....in the past there has been the odd little birdie singing, and then bang the dates are announced. I dont think the band owes us anything either in the sense of advance information by way of a gentle nudge......the dates will come when they are good and ready, like they always have.
    Yeah agreed but they just owe us decent service like the big business they are. Feels like the whole fan club is run by interns at times. All these tweets and reminders to keep stuff up to do are lame. Just be specific or just don't say anything at all. I don't follow any other bands like I do PJ but I wonder what it's like with their fanbase and how tour dates get announced. Do they have to play this constant game over rumored tour dates? etc. I know we bring it on ourselves and we could sit tight but we got a tour announcement what 3 months ago. Why they can't just say "oh we were going to announce some tour dates but due to unforeseen circumstances (I don't care the reason) we will announce in January 2016 or something.
    I hear you, but then again we didn't get any tour announcement 3 months ago, and it goes back to the old argument from 100 pages ago in this thread.....people are too keen to shoot their mouths off with confidential information that creates this kind of mess
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    pdalowsky said:

    Brisk. said:

    pdalowsky said:

    The band owes us nothing

    I disagree. Without their fans they don't have a career. We pay their salaries. If a band member or management came out and said that then I'd be done as a fan.
    I think the message there was the band foist owe us a heads up on a tour they cannot announce yet for probably comtractual reasons.

    Telling folk there will be a tour announced next week really doesn't help much. I don't believe they have ever said 'we're announcing dates on this date'.....in the past there has been the odd little birdie singing, and then bang the dates are announced. I dont think the band owes us anything either in the sense of advance information by way of a gentle nudge......the dates will come when they are good and ready, like they always have.
    Yeah agreed but they just owe us decent service like the big business they are. Feels like the whole fan club is run by interns at times. All these tweets and reminders to keep stuff up to do are lame. Just be specific or just don't say anything at all. I don't follow any other bands like I do PJ but I wonder what it's like with their fanbase and how tour dates get announced. Do they have to play this constant game over rumored tour dates? etc. I know we bring it on ourselves and we could sit tight but we got a tour announcement what 3 months ago. Why they can't just say "oh we were going to announce some tour dates but due to unforeseen circumstances (I don't care the reason) we will announce in January 2016 or something.
    I hear you, but then again we didn't get any tour announcement 3 months ago, and it goes back to the old argument from 100 pages ago in this thread.....people are too keen to shoot their mouths off with confidential information that creates this kind of mess
    Actually... the 10c are the ones putting reminders in newsletters and tweets 3 months ago, getting every one excited... and other people's contacts providing info, philly & nyc were rumored before "the leak"... and then seating charts... and then Lexington...

    So I think we can stop berating fans that were just trying to be nice & helpful to other fans
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited January 2016
    Who decides who is cool enough to get access to "confidential" tour dates anyway? Are there fans that are better than others? More deserving of the info?

    I hate that elitist Betterfan shit, it's a long time plague in the pearl jam fan world, and it's obnoxious and annoying
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,578
    Where is that screenshot from?!
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Roo seems a little weak this year... but I do love seeing the dead on the calendar with PJ
  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,041
    Macklemore is spelled wrong. Seems legit though.


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  • Brisk. said:

    Where is that screenshot from?!

    Supposedly from the mobile bonaroo app
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    my2hands said:

    Who decides who is cool enough to get access to "confidential" tour dates anyway? Are there fans that are better than others? More deserving of the info?

    I hate that elitist Betterfan shit, it's a long time plague in the pearl jam fan world, and it's obnoxious and annoying

    There is no better fan, that's a ridiculous suggestion. Its a way of the world that some folk will have contacts whom have the inside line and they may offer tidbits out of some form a friendship. That is normally born out of some form of mutual respect. To throw that all over the internet and abuse that trust doesn't sit right, especially when it creates the kind of thread we have here. People have been upset that the dates haven't been announced, people are frustrated with the delays.....when in real terms there isn't a delay. Something isn't ready.

    Personally I have enjoyed the build up, and the back and forth and the excitement is very much alive but I do know for some they have become completely disenchanted by it all.

    There is no elitism involved there, absolutely none and no one is more deserving of information than anyone else. But no one is entitled to information that is confidential and not ready for general release yet.

    getting the rumours coming from radio Djs (folk generally who may be in the know due to their position and not more entitled than the every day fan for example), seeing seating charts arrive online, seeing venues put the date up on their electronic boards as 'coming soon', venue staff giving out information from schedules - that is all part of the fun here. Personally I cant wait to see how the list of dates looks when it arrives.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    The band owes us nothing

    I disagree. Without their fans they don't have a career. We pay their salaries. If a band member or management came out and said that then I'd be done as a fan.
    I want band to create music for themselves, not me. They owe me nothing. And I got hell of a lot more from them than they have from me.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321

    Macklemore is spelled wrong. Seems legit though.

    Keys 'N Krates also misspelled.

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    The band owes us nothing

    I disagree. Without their fans they don't have a career. We pay their salaries. If a band member or management came out and said that then I'd be done as a fan.
    They don't owe anybody shit! They are artists, not Kartrashian "entertainers".

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  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,091
    And there should be an extra space between lcd soundsystem and the dot symbol.
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  • SteffyLou
    SteffyLou Posts: 370
    edited January 2016
    Sooooo, I've heard of 6 bands on that screenshot.
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,211
    SteffyLou said:

    Sooooo, I've heard of 6 bands on that screenshot.

    LOL, I think that about most festivals these days. at 36 years old, im already old and out of touch
  • SteffyLou
    SteffyLou Posts: 370
    35 and right there with you!
  • Chrisilein
    Chrisilein Vienna/Austria Posts: 3,909
    pdalowsky said:

    SteffyLou said:

    Sooooo, I've heard of 6 bands on that screenshot.

    LOL, I think that about most festivals these days. at 36 years old, im already old and out of touch
    Oh God...I'm 44 and thanks to your post I feel really old now... :)
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,578

    pdalowsky said:

    SteffyLou said:

    Sooooo, I've heard of 6 bands on that screenshot.

    LOL, I think that about most festivals these days. at 36 years old, im already old and out of touch
    Oh God...I'm 44 and thanks to your post I feel really old now... :)
    I'm 25 and I don't know any of them! I don't keep up with mainstream music as it's shit!
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    the dead, lcd, and pj have been strongly rumored at roo for a little while now... but im not buying that list, I think its weird that it is listed in alphabetical order... and it seems pretty weak for roo as well
  • derbydave
    derbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    pdalowsky said:

    my2hands said:

    Who decides who is cool enough to get access to "confidential" tour dates anyway? Are there fans that are better than others? More deserving of the info?

    I hate that elitist Betterfan shit, it's a long time plague in the pearl jam fan world, and it's obnoxious and annoying

    There is no better fan, that's a ridiculous suggestion. Its a way of the world that some folk will have contacts whom have the inside line and they may offer tidbits out of some form a friendship. That is normally born out of some form of mutual respect. To throw that all over the internet and abuse that trust doesn't sit right, especially when it creates the kind of thread we have here. People have been upset that the dates haven't been announced, people are frustrated with the delays.....when in real terms there isn't a delay. Something isn't ready.

    Personally I have enjoyed the build up, and the back and forth and the excitement is very much alive but I do know for some they have become completely disenchanted by it all.

    There is no elitism involved there, absolutely none and no one is more deserving of information than anyone else. But no one is entitled to information that is confidential and not ready for general release yet.

    getting the rumours coming from radio Djs (folk generally who may be in the know due to their position and not more entitled than the every day fan for example), seeing seating charts arrive online, seeing venues put the date up on their electronic boards as 'coming soon', venue staff giving out information from schedules - that is all part of the fun here. Personally I cant wait to see how the list of dates looks when it arrives.
    I just walked into an elevator at Ohio Stadium wearing a Pearl Jam hat and one of redcoats
    (Who also turned out to be a HUGE PJ fan...
    he saw them here in Columbus at Veteran's Memorial in '91)

    told me that they were in negotiations with PJ for a show at one of their venues!!
    You could tell he was excited to meet another fan!!
    I had never met this gentleman before,
    I didn't ask for the information...
    he just offered it up to me,
    and everyone else in the elevator!!
    He also said they were trying to get U2 for a show at The Shoe.
    Sorry if that makes you feel like I am an entitled fan for sharing this information!!
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    That Bonnaroo listing looks "off"
    like my2Hands said... it has never been listed alphabetically before
    if so.. that is the weakest lineup that Bonnaroo has ever had..

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