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  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,437
    Whatever the first year of eligibility is, PJ is a slam dunk, first ballot Hall of Famer.

    I appreciate that many of you are trying to be unbiased but there is no way they don't get in.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJ are first ballot hall of fame... 100%

    it's ludicrous to think otherwise
  • Alpine BoundAlpine Bound Posts: 1,809
    edited October 2015
    Edit: Saw answered above. PJ is eligible in 2016 to be inducted in April 2017
    Post edited by Alpine Bound on
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Posts: 4,895
    how much will the poster be? How much will it be the next day on e-bay?
  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 2,356
    edited October 2015

    Funny how everyone assumes they will be inducted the first year eligible.

    Not saying they won't be but there are no guarantees.

    I know im not assuming anything. The discussion is about the first year of eligibility.
    Post edited by primussucks on
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    Missoula 6/20/98
    Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
    Alpine Valley 10/8/00 
    Champaign 4/23/03
    Alpine Valley 6/21/03
    Missoula 8/29/05
    Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
    Grand Rapids 5/19/06
    Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
    Tampa 6/12/08
    Chicago 8/23/09
    Indy 5/7/10
    Alpine Valley x2 2011
    Wrigley 2013
    Milwaukee 14
    Telluride 16
  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 2,356
    dankind said:

    Based on the following excerpt from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame website (http://rockhall.com/inductees/induction-process/), I'm with the 2016 folks:

    Eligibility

    To be eligible for induction as an artist (as a performer, composer, or musician) into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the artist must have released a record, in the generally accepted sense of that phrase, AT LEAST 25 YEARS PRIOR TO THE YEAR OF INDUCTION; and have demonstrated unquestionable musical excellence.

    We shall consider factors such as an artist's musical influence on other artists, length and depth of career and the body of work, innovation and superiority in style and technique, but musical excellence shall be the essential qualification of induction.
    This! It's prior to the year of induction NOT prior to the year of eligibility! 2016 would be the induction! 2016 minus 25 is 1991 by my math!
    Summerfest 7/8/95
    Missoula 6/20/98
    Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
    Alpine Valley 10/8/00 
    Champaign 4/23/03
    Alpine Valley 6/21/03
    Missoula 8/29/05
    Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
    Grand Rapids 5/19/06
    Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
    Tampa 6/12/08
    Chicago 8/23/09
    Indy 5/7/10
    Alpine Valley x2 2011
    Wrigley 2013
    Milwaukee 14
    Telluride 16
  • pjrusspjruss Posts: 494
    Logic says 2016. Dimi says 2017. 2017 it is, lol.
    Has no one else noticed that he seems to have some inside info on pretty much everything??
    And I'm glad he shares as much as he can. Now I know to expect good news on the 10th.
  • MUZIKMUZIK Posts: 629
    believe the greek
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  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 2,356
    pjruss said:

    Logic says 2016. Dimi says 2017. 2017 it is, lol.
    Has no one else noticed that he seems to have some inside info on pretty much everything??
    And I'm glad he shares as much as he can. Now I know to expect good news on the 10th.

    You can always expect "good news" every month on the 10th! Just don't expect tour dates on the 10th.
    Summerfest 7/8/95
    Missoula 6/20/98
    Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
    Alpine Valley 10/8/00 
    Champaign 4/23/03
    Alpine Valley 6/21/03
    Missoula 8/29/05
    Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
    Grand Rapids 5/19/06
    Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
    Tampa 6/12/08
    Chicago 8/23/09
    Indy 5/7/10
    Alpine Valley x2 2011
    Wrigley 2013
    Milwaukee 14
    Telluride 16
  • pjruss said:

    Logic says 2016. Dimi says 2017. 2017 it is, lol.
    Has no one else noticed that he seems to have some inside info on pretty much everything??
    And I'm glad he shares as much as he can. Now I know to expect good news on the 10th.

    for get in the 2016 event..u need to be eligible at the end of 2015
    pj cant be at 2015..so its logic to be at 2017 event..anf they will be at that event..
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,837

    pjruss said:

    Logic says 2016. Dimi says 2017. 2017 it is, lol.
    Has no one else noticed that he seems to have some inside info on pretty much everything??
    And I'm glad he shares as much as he can. Now I know to expect good news on the 10th.

    for get in the 2016 event..u need to be eligible at the end of 2015
    pj cant be at 2015..so its logic to be at 2017 event..anf they will be at that event..
    Dimitris, that's not what the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame website says.

    Either way, it'll be cool to see the performances, whenever they happen.
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  • SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,168
    Ok now it's really bugging me. Will the 2017ers please explain how Nirvana's induction made sense then? Thankssss :)
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 14,991
    edited October 2015
    Suziemay said:

    Ok now it's really bugging me. Will the 2017ers please explain how Nirvana's induction made sense then? Thankssss :)

    I think it has to do with the time zone change. It will be 2016 in the US and 2017 in Greece.
    Post edited by on2legs on
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,743
    Dinosaur Jr's first album, "Dinosaur" came out thirty years ago this year. There's no way this band should not be in the RRHOF.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,817
    Is it first album or first record? Which could be a single? Nirvana released its first single in 1988. Voted in in 2013 and inducted the following year.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,743
    igotid88 said:

    Is it first album or first record? Which could be a single? Nirvana released its first single in 1988. Voted in in 2013 and inducted the following year.

    RRHOF seems a bit vague on this:

    "To be eligible for induction as an artist (as a performer, composer, or musician) into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the artist must have released a record, in the generally accepted sense of that phrase, at least 25 years prior to the year of induction; and have demonstrated unquestionable musical excellence.

    We shall consider factors such as an artist's musical influence on other artists, length and depth of career and the body of work, innovation and superiority in style and technique, but musical excellence shall be the essential qualification of induction.
    https://rockhall.com/inductees/induction-process/
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,817
    Either way if they get in a year earlier than expected. I'm fine with that.
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  • They will be voted in this year and inducted in 2016. 25 years after ten was released. Just like nirvana, bleach released in 89.....voted 2013 inducted 2014
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  • loving this debate and reading all the comments here haha, for what its worth i agree they are eligible for voting this year and inducted next year. I also remember reading something on here that someone reposted it was an interview with an industry insider and he more all less said pearl jam would be inducted on their first attempt
  • loving this debate and reading all the comments here haha, for what its worth i agree they are eligible for voting this year and inducted next year. I also remember reading something on here that someone reposted it was an interview with an industry insider and he more all less said pearl jam would be inducted on their first attempt

    Yep..at the same interview he explain why pj will be at the event at 2017.and not at 2016...i think its april 2017..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Seems..my english doesnt help..
    Ill try once again..this month will be the nominees for the event will take place at april 2016..pj will not be in
    Next year will be in at the ceremony will happen at 2017..
    I dont what how else to say it
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PernillePernille Posts: 114
    igotid88 said:

    Is it first album or first record? Which could be a single? Nirvana released its first single in 1988. Voted in in 2013 and inducted the following year.

    I was just about to write this but you beat me to it.
    I'm pretty sure in Nirvana's case they counted from the release of their first single. Love Buzz was released in late 1988.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    Bleach was released in 89, Nirvana went in the class of 2014.

    PJ should be on the ballot this year by that logic.
    my2hands said:

    PJ are first ballot hall of fame... 100%

    it's ludicrous to think otherwise

    Almost as ludicrous as Deep Purple and Iron Maiden being left out or Rush and Kiss waiting years past their eligibility to be put on the ballot.
  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045

    Seems..my english doesnt help..
    Ill try once again..this month will be the nominees for the event will take place at april 2016..pj will not be in
    Next year will be in at the ceremony will happen at 2017..
    I dont what how else to say it

    I believe dimi is right..I heard something on radio yesterday about 2016 hof nominees and pj was not mentioned.
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 14,991
    Somebody PM me when we get this figured out.
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  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    my2hands said:

    PJ are first ballot hall of fame... 100%

    it's ludicrous to think otherwise

    Yep.. I also believe that artist..athletes..or any other profession could care less about the hof. In the modern day it's all about cashing paychecks.
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  • joseph33joseph33 Posts: 1,247
    They will be a first time go. How and who can pass them? Unless Jann Wenner has it in for Ed.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    There have been several bands with as much success and more influence get overlooked.
  • DewieCox said:

    There have been several bands with as much success and more influence get overlooked.

    Yep. Every band that Hetfield mentioned in his speech.
  • Seems..my english doesnt help..
    Ill try once again..this month will be the nominees for the event will take place at april 2016..pj will not be in
    Next year will be in at the ceremony will happen at 2017..
    I dont what how else to say it

    OK who's going to start betting money on this?
    I had originally thought it was 25 years from the album release year, to GET NOMINATED, which is about 6 months before the actual induction... but after reading that official RRHOF quote someone put up above, I think they will "make the class" here in a few weeks and then be part of the ceremony in April. I'm now in the 2016 camp. And they WILL definitely get in first year of eligibility. Eddie has been a Hall of Fame pal since the Doors thing in 92 (?). I still think it's ludicrous that Green Day made it immediately (and yes, while Rush had to wait almost 40 years). If they make it, PJ will make it. You'll see. I'm going to call it now and say Foo Fighters will make it in 2020, too... Wenner loves Grohl obviously, he's gonna put him in twice right away.
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