Hillary won more votes for President

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited October 2016
    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Well if we're talking about Ohio specifically it appears that at the state level both Kasich and Portman have been able to convince them to vote for the GOP. At the federal level Trump is speaking their language on trade. The way you phrase immigration though is clearly in your own head. Read what you wrote back to yourself. Nobody is saying that "immigration" is taking a job. The point being made is that "illegal immigration" is taking jobs and the fact of the matter is that illegal immigration left unchecked does depress wages for whites and minorities. That is just an economic fact and you have a democratic party that is giving off the impression that they are more concerned with the plight of the illegal immigrant then the unemployed citizen of all colours.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,573
    BS44325 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Well if we're talking about Ohio specifically it appears that at the state level both Kasich and Portman have been able to convince them to vote for the GOP. At the federal level Trump is speaking their language on trade. The way you phrase immigration though is clearly in your own head. Read what you wrote back to yourself. Nobody is saying that "immigration" is taking a job. The point being made is that "illegal immigration" is taking jobs and the fact of the matter is that illegal immigration left unchecked does depress wages for whites and minorities. That is just an economic fact and you have a democratic party that is giving off the impression that they are more concerned with the plight of the illegal immigrant then the unemployed citizen of all colours.
    And the immigration issue captures the fear and ignorance of Trump voters. Somehow Hillary is for "open borders", and illegals are this yuge financial drain (that no one can seem to put a dollar amount on).
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Well if we're talking about Ohio specifically it appears that at the state level both Kasich and Portman have been able to convince them to vote for the GOP. At the federal level Trump is speaking their language on trade. The way you phrase immigration though is clearly in your own head. Read what you wrote back to yourself. Nobody is saying that "immigration" is taking a job. The point being made is that "illegal immigration" is taking jobs and the fact of the matter is that illegal immigration left unchecked does depress wages for whites and minorities. That is just an economic fact and you have a democratic party that is giving off the impression that they are more concerned with the plight of the illegal immigrant then the unemployed citizen of all colours.
    And the immigration issue captures the fear and ignorance of Trump voters. Somehow Hillary is for "open borders", and illegals are this yuge financial drain (that no one can seem to put a dollar amount on).
    It is "ignorance" to not understand that illegal immigration unchecked depresses wages for all people including minorities. It is also a fact that Hillary is for "open borders" as per her just released speech. Those are her words and as a globalist those words are not out of character for her.
  • lukin2006
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    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    The primary issue with Trump voters is fear, paranoia, and ignorance. Then combine that with a lower level of education. It's very far from "real concerns".

    stereotype much....
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    lukin2006 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    The primary issue with Trump voters is fear, paranoia, and ignorance. Then combine that with a lower level of education. It's very far from "real concerns".

    stereotype much....
    I don't even think they hear how they sound.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,573
    BS44325 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    The primary issue with Trump voters is fear, paranoia, and ignorance. Then combine that with a lower level of education. It's very far from "real concerns".

    stereotype much....
    I don't even think they hear how they sound.
    Is it a negative stereotype? Maybe you guys don't understand demographic data. E.g. The higher level of education someone has, the more liberal they tend to be. Is that a stereotype?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,573
    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Well if we're talking about Ohio specifically it appears that at the state level both Kasich and Portman have been able to convince them to vote for the GOP. At the federal level Trump is speaking their language on trade. The way you phrase immigration though is clearly in your own head. Read what you wrote back to yourself. Nobody is saying that "immigration" is taking a job. The point being made is that "illegal immigration" is taking jobs and the fact of the matter is that illegal immigration left unchecked does depress wages for whites and minorities. That is just an economic fact and you have a democratic party that is giving off the impression that they are more concerned with the plight of the illegal immigrant then the unemployed citizen of all colours.
    And the immigration issue captures the fear and ignorance of Trump voters. Somehow Hillary is for "open borders", and illegals are this yuge financial drain (that no one can seem to put a dollar amount on).
    It is "ignorance" to not understand that illegal immigration unchecked depresses wages for all people including minorities. It is also a fact that Hillary is for "open borders" as per her just released speech. Those are her words and as a globalist those words are not out of character for her.
    You mean where she's referring to trade?
  • unsung
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    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Or things like NAFTA and TPP are outsourcing all of the manufacturing jobs.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Well if we're talking about Ohio specifically it appears that at the state level both Kasich and Portman have been able to convince them to vote for the GOP. At the federal level Trump is speaking their language on trade. The way you phrase immigration though is clearly in your own head. Read what you wrote back to yourself. Nobody is saying that "immigration" is taking a job. The point being made is that "illegal immigration" is taking jobs and the fact of the matter is that illegal immigration left unchecked does depress wages for whites and minorities. That is just an economic fact and you have a democratic party that is giving off the impression that they are more concerned with the plight of the illegal immigrant then the unemployed citizen of all colours.
    And the immigration issue captures the fear and ignorance of Trump voters. Somehow Hillary is for "open borders", and illegals are this yuge financial drain (that no one can seem to put a dollar amount on).
    It is "ignorance" to not understand that illegal immigration unchecked depresses wages for all people including minorities. It is also a fact that Hillary is for "open borders" as per her just released speech. Those are her words and as a globalist those words are not out of character for her.
    You mean where she's referring to trade?
    Nope. Where she's referring to open borders.
  • unsung
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    Go Beavers said:

    BS44325 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Well if we're talking about Ohio specifically it appears that at the state level both Kasich and Portman have been able to convince them to vote for the GOP. At the federal level Trump is speaking their language on trade. The way you phrase immigration though is clearly in your own head. Read what you wrote back to yourself. Nobody is saying that "immigration" is taking a job. The point being made is that "illegal immigration" is taking jobs and the fact of the matter is that illegal immigration left unchecked does depress wages for whites and minorities. That is just an economic fact and you have a democratic party that is giving off the impression that they are more concerned with the plight of the illegal immigrant then the unemployed citizen of all colours.
    And the immigration issue captures the fear and ignorance of Trump voters. Somehow Hillary is for "open borders", and illegals are this yuge financial drain (that no one can seem to put a dollar amount on).
    Because nobody knows how many there really are. It's still a problem.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,573
    unsung said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Or things like NAFTA and TPP are outsourcing all of the manufacturing jobs.
    So you'd like the federal government to step in and do something about jobs going elsewhere?
  • unsung
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    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Or things like NAFTA and TPP are outsourcing all of the manufacturing jobs.
    So you'd like the federal government to step in and do something about jobs going elsewhere?
    That's rich. You'd like me to say that the government should do something about the government screwing it up.

    Thank God for government saving us from government!
  • Gern Blansten
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    lolobugg said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).

    Down here in the good ol' South they do it with Religion, brother.
    Yeah that's the other thing I keep hearing (or seeing via memes on facebook), if Hillary is elected there will be a war on Christianity....wtf?
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    unsung said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Or things like NAFTA and TPP are outsourcing all of the manufacturing jobs.
    Yeah NAFTA had been brutal. All these jobs going to China thanks to NAFTA.

    That makes sense, right? I mean we blame NAFTA for China.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,248
    "vote trump if you smart"

    "thats great were gana get a lieing peice of crapp for president maybe jesus will come back"
    I just copy/pasted this from a facebook "friend" status and meme comment

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Gern Blansten said:

    "vote trump if you smart"

    "thats great were gana get a lieing peice of crapp for president maybe jesus will come back"
    I just copy/pasted this from a facebook "friend" status and meme comment



    Was it sarcasm?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Or things like NAFTA and TPP are outsourcing all of the manufacturing jobs.
    Yeah NAFTA had been brutal. All these jobs going to China thanks to NAFTA.

    That makes sense, right? I mean we blame NAFTA for China.
    Have you seen someone blame NAFTA for China?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,573
    unsung said:

    Go Beavers said:

    unsung said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Or things like NAFTA and TPP are outsourcing all of the manufacturing jobs.
    So you'd like the federal government to step in and do something about jobs going elsewhere?
    That's rich. You'd like me to say that the government should do something about the government screwing it up.

    Thank God for government saving us from government!
    I was just asking for clarification. The government forced US companies to move manufacturing overseas? With no trade agreement they would've stayed? Yes to tariffs? No to tarrifs?
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,248
    mrussel1 said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    "vote trump if you smart"

    "thats great were gana get a lieing peice of crapp for president maybe jesus will come back"
    I just copy/pasted this from a facebook "friend" status and meme comment

    Was it sarcasm?

    NO! Dude's from Darke County
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    That is a sad assessment Gambs but I won't argue as it is your state and there is no doubt that you know it better then me. I guess my question is if your state in certain parts is as racist as you say then how did it go for Obama in both elections? Why is it trending towards Trump now? Has it become more racist in the last 8 years or is it simply that the African American vote is completely unethused by Clinton. The racism argument just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering it's previous voting record.

    Just from the info you guys have stated here, I would assume it's because Ohio was a lot more eager to be xenophobic against Muslims than they were to be racist against black people. Being scared about and angry at Muslims is one of Trump's major platforms, and a lot of Americans are eating it up for breakfast.
    Really?
    Yeah, why? You don't think that a lot of people have been lured in by Trump's very extreme views when it comes to Muslims? It's one of his main talking points.
    No. I don't think that explains it at all. I think that again is using the racism card to discount the real concerns of the working class voter that democrats no longer care to address.

    https://youtu.be/1_O_1bucvaw
    But how does the GOP convince the working class to vote for them? By suggesting that their lives are worse because of affirmative action (racism), immigrants that take their jobs (racism), taxes that are increasing (which they aren't for the middle class).
    Or things like NAFTA and TPP are outsourcing all of the manufacturing jobs.
    Yeah NAFTA had been brutal. All these jobs going to China thanks to NAFTA.

    That makes sense, right? I mean we blame NAFTA for China.
    NO we don't blame NAFTA for China. We blame Bill and Hillary for NAFTA, silly. TPP we can blame on Hillary after sheis elected and flips, yet again, on TPP

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