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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

  • so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    callen said:

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    No, but it's so true! Play it again, Callen!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    I'm not sure what you're getting at here?

    She has the right to believe in Santa if that's what she chooses. She doesn't have the right to not perform her job as expected because she believes in God.

    Ridiculous.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited September 2015
    What really pisses me off about all of this (and no, it's not the hair; keep your goddamn hair, Davis) is that any of us - most of us - would've been fired from the get-go for pulling this shit.

    Who hasn't had internal conflicts on the job? Most rational people would either suck it up / get over it and do what they're being paid for, or said "sorry, my *good conscience* doesn't allow me to do what I was elected to do and what I'm well-paid for".

    *edit - and stepped down.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited September 2015
    Religion is one of those topics that gets a pass. I get why. It makes no sense yet so many hold onto it. Like the elephant in the room.

    Quoting Elaine "Fake Fake Fake Fake"

    And many even non religious will say I'm insensitive or don't respect. Nah. Not at all.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,766
    Heres the question I have , is it within the scope of her job description and authority set forth by the county and state to make such a change on her own wothout county and/or state approval?

    Removal of the county of record from a legal document?

    I think , with her approval , her attorneys are pushing for a test case by advising her to take these actions. They want to see how far the can go under states RFRA laws.

    I think there are clerks and even judges waiting to press forward in this way but somebody needed to be first.
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  • hedonist said:

    What really pisses me off about all of this (and no, it's not the hair; keep your goddamn hair, Davis) is that any of us - most of us - would've been fired from the get-go for pulling this shit.

    Who hasn't had internal conflicts on the job? Most rational people would either suck it up / get over it and do what they're being paid for, or said "sorry, my *good conscience* doesn't allow me to do what I was elected to do and what I'm well-paid for".

    *edit - and stepped down.

    Yup.

    They'll cuff and detain a 14 year old kid for bringing a clock to school... but they'll celebrate a bigoted, nasty looking woman for being a tool.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen said:

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    I agree, or be transferred but due to religious freedom is she able to be fired ?

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    I'm not sure what you're getting at here?

    She has the right to believe in Santa if that's what she chooses. She doesn't have the right to not perform her job as expected because she believes in God.

    Ridiculous.
    I know, but like I was asking, can she be fired ? there are several other cases that were fought and won (I think) due to religious beliefs, everybody has a point if some believe/agree with it or not so I'm just curious if she can be legally forced to license a gay marriage or not due to here religious beliefs ? public opinion means little when it comes to binding legal issues especially if not a safety or security issue.

    Godfather.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    callen said:

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    I agree, or be transferred but due to religious freedom is she able to be fired ?

    Godfather.

    Haven't you ever heard that "my freedom to swing my fist ends where your nose begins"?

    She is NOT exercising religious freedom AT ALL, she is imposing religious doctrine on others, in VIOLATION of the Constitution.

    If one supports her, they must support Sharia law as well, or they show themself to be a hypocrite, bigot, fool, you name it.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    callen said:

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    I agree, or be transferred but due to religious freedom is she able to be fired ?

    Godfather.

    Haven't you ever heard that "my freedom to swing my fist ends where your nose begins"?

    She is NOT exercising religious freedom AT ALL, she is imposing religious doctrine on others, in VIOLATION of the Constitution.

    If one supports her, they must support Sharia law as well, or they show themself to be a hypocrite, bigot, fool, you name it.
    your fist and my nose.......a small piece of freedom I'd be willing to participate in.
    so you don't understand my question then, piss on sharia law, I asked (rhetorically or not) can she be arrested for not issuing a license of marriage to gay couples, simple as that internet macho man.

    Godfather.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    callen said:

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    I agree, or be transferred but due to religious freedom is she able to be fired ?

    Godfather.

    Haven't you ever heard that "my freedom to swing my fist ends where your nose begins"?

    She is NOT exercising religious freedom AT ALL, she is imposing religious doctrine on others, in VIOLATION of the Constitution.

    If one supports her, they must support Sharia law as well, or they show themself to be a hypocrite, bigot, fool, you name it.
    your fist and my nose.......a small piece of freedom I'd be willing to participate in.
    so you don't understand my question then, piss on sharia law, I asked (rhetorically or not) can she be arrested for not issuing a license of marriage to gay couples, simple as that internet macho man.

    Godfather.

    Lol I wasn't threatening to punch you Godfather, it's just a saying I heard once that is pretty accurate when it comes to freedom of religion, any freedom really.

    She was arrested for contempt of court...legally or not, it's a pretty complicated question and controversial.
    She should resign if it means so much to her, but instead she is forcing her hangups on other people.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    callen said:

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    I agree, or be transferred but due to religious freedom is she able to be fired ?

    Godfather.

    Haven't you ever heard that "my freedom to swing my fist ends where your nose begins"?

    She is NOT exercising religious freedom AT ALL, she is imposing religious doctrine on others, in VIOLATION of the Constitution.

    If one supports her, they must support Sharia law as well, or they show themself to be a hypocrite, bigot, fool, you name it.
    your fist and my nose.......a small piece of freedom I'd be willing to participate in.
    so you don't understand my question then, piss on sharia law, I asked (rhetorically or not) can she be arrested for not issuing a license of marriage to gay couples, simple as that internet macho man.

    Godfather.

    Lol I wasn't threatening to punch you Godfather, it's just a saying I heard once that is pretty accurate when it comes to freedom of religion, any freedom really.

    She was arrested for contempt of court...legally or not, it's a pretty complicated question and controversial.
    She should resign if it means so much to her, but instead she is forcing her hangups on other people.
    I am not concerned about her hang ups or gay rights really, I'm really just curious about the legality's and how their played out, and thank you for clarifying.....my nose has been broken once already LOL !!

    Godfather.

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,766

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    callen said:

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    I agree, or be transferred but due to religious freedom is she able to be fired ?

    Godfather.

    Haven't you ever heard that "my freedom to swing my fist ends where your nose begins"?

    She is NOT exercising religious freedom AT ALL, she is imposing religious doctrine on others, in VIOLATION of the Constitution.

    If one supports her, they must support Sharia law as well, or they show themself to be a hypocrite, bigot, fool, you name it.
    your fist and my nose.......a small piece of freedom I'd be willing to participate in.
    so you don't understand my question then, piss on sharia law, I asked (rhetorically or not) can she be arrested for not issuing a license of marriage to gay couples, simple as that internet macho man.

    Godfather.

    Lol I wasn't threatening to punch you Godfather, it's just a saying I heard once that is pretty accurate when it comes to freedom of religion, any freedom really.

    She was arrested for contempt of court...legally or not, it's a pretty complicated question and controversial.
    She should resign if it means so much to her, but instead she is forcing her hangups on other people.
    I am not concerned about her hang ups or gay rights really, I'm really just curious about the legality's and how their played out, and thank you for clarifying.....my nose has been broken once already LOL !!

    Godfather.

    If a judge issues a legal order based on the constitution and scotus opinion and you refuse , you are in contempt. Period. That can lead to indefinite jail time and/or a fine.
    Length of time is entirely on that individual .

    Well accepted legal principal.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mickeyrat said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    callen said:

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    soon as they figure out if she broke any laws LOL !, I kind of figured that this would get messy
    with her rights and their rights and moral issue arguments.

    Godfather.

    Amazing, eh?

    The tail wags the dog. This could have been so simple: just boot her ass and hire someone who'll perform to the job's standards and requirements.

    Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    Normal Person: "No problem. You're entitled to your views. But we need someone who can... soooo... here's a broom and there's a mess- all those crumbs where you ate your bag of Dad's cookies. God's okay with you cleaning up messes isn't he?"
    the problem with this statement.. "Idiot: "I'm sorry, but I don't believe in gay marriage so therefore I will not be issuing any licenses to gays seeking them because God doesn't want me to do that!"

    ..is that this statement crosses over to the rights of religious questions and beliefs across the board not just the rights for a few idiots....but all idiots,

    Godfather.



    Government official has to do government work. Can't discriminate due to personal beliefs . Don't like it quit.

    I know broken record.
    I agree, or be transferred but due to religious freedom is she able to be fired ?

    Godfather.

    Haven't you ever heard that "my freedom to swing my fist ends where your nose begins"?

    She is NOT exercising religious freedom AT ALL, she is imposing religious doctrine on others, in VIOLATION of the Constitution.

    If one supports her, they must support Sharia law as well, or they show themself to be a hypocrite, bigot, fool, you name it.
    your fist and my nose.......a small piece of freedom I'd be willing to participate in.
    so you don't understand my question then, piss on sharia law, I asked (rhetorically or not) can she be arrested for not issuing a license of marriage to gay couples, simple as that internet macho man.

    Godfather.

    Lol I wasn't threatening to punch you Godfather, it's just a saying I heard once that is pretty accurate when it comes to freedom of religion, any freedom really.

    She was arrested for contempt of court...legally or not, it's a pretty complicated question and controversial.
    She should resign if it means so much to her, but instead she is forcing her hangups on other people.
    I am not concerned about her hang ups or gay rights really, I'm really just curious about the legality's and how their played out, and thank you for clarifying.....my nose has been broken once already LOL !!

    Godfather.

    If a judge issues a legal order based on the constitution and scotus opinion and you refuse , you are in contempt. Period. That can lead to indefinite jail time and/or a fine.
    Length of time is entirely on that individual .

    Well accepted legal principal.
    very cool, thank you.

    Godfather.

  • so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    Already done and she was freeded
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    so......

    when are they going to haul this woman before a judge again?

    Already done and she was freeded
    hay ! where the hell you been ! it's getting hot in here. LOL !!!!

    Godfather.