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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    Ha! Was just about to post this, where's the face palm emoticon when you need it...

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0930/731552-pope-gay-marriage/
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    I have to say, this news made me throw up. I don't think the Pope's a liberal, but - sheesh, it's like he met with Kim Kardashian. I was really into the Pope. And sure, I wish women were more active in the Catholic church and he didn't hate gay marriage, etc. But it's cool he cares about global warming and poor people.

    But Kim Davis. *shudders*
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Enkidu said:

    I have to say, this news made me throw up. I don't think the Pope's a liberal, but - sheesh, it's like he met with Kim Kardashian. I was really into the Pope. And sure, I wish women were more active in the Catholic church and he didn't hate gay marriage, etc. But it's cool he cares about global warming and poor people.

    But Kim Davis. *shudders*

    A good smorgasbord of beliefs to try and connect with as many as possible: a good business practice.
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Enkidu said:

    I have to say, this news made me throw up. I don't think the Pope's a liberal, but - sheesh, it's like he met with Kim Kardashian. I was really into the Pope. And sure, I wish women were more active in the Catholic church and he didn't hate gay marriage, etc. But it's cool he cares about global warming and poor people.

    But Kim Davis. *shudders*

    +1
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    Really this made me sick he just went down ten notches ......
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    I liked this from the article
    "Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.

    Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Conscientious objection is a term traditionally referring to refusal to engage in conscripted military service due to personal beliefs. It doesn't apply here because no-one forced Davis to accept this particular job, and there are no penalties to her for leaving the job, other than financial. She's staying in a job for the money and objecting to completing parts of it; some conscientious objection.
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    Agreed, government employees don't have the luxury of conscientious objection. Leave your crazy religious beliefs at the door or find yourself a new line of work
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    And agree with Often, somewhat different to the traditional sense of conscientious objection
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    edited October 2015
    i understand conscientious objection if you refuse to go to war because you refuse to kill someone a la muhammad ali. he was drafted and refused, was stripped of his championship and his livelihood, and went to jail.

    kim davis is an elected official who willingly ran for the position then decided not to do her job. which she has somehow managed to hang on to.

    #popefail
    Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    Agree with all of those last posts. Conscientious objector, I call bs.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,766
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    I liked this from the article
    "Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.

    Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.

    except when anohter law says you can C.O. , so since that law requiring the signature of the elected clerk on the document, we wait til the states legislature reconvenes in January to address this discrepancy that occured after they were out of session for the year when SCOTUS handed down their ruling.

    See due process in action. Deal with it.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,766
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i understand conscientious objection if you refuse to go to war because you refuse to kill someone a la muhammad ali. he was drafted and refused, was stripped of his championship and his livelihood, and went to jail.

    kim davis is an elected official who willingly ran for the position then decided not to do her job. which she has somehow managed to hang on to.

    #popefail

    Ky RFRA allows gov officials to object and be covered. So until they make the necessary changes to the requirement of that officials sig on a document........like it or not , for the time being she IS following the law.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    LOL poor pope...

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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pickupyourwill
    pickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    Enkidu said:

    I have to say, this news made me throw up. I don't think the Pope's a liberal, but - sheesh, it's like he met with Kim Kardashian. I was really into the Pope. And sure, I wish women were more active in the Catholic church and he didn't hate gay marriage, etc. But it's cool he cares about global warming and poor people.

    But Kim Davis. *shudders*

    I agree. When I heard this on the news, I was in disbelief. If he was a more modern Pope he would have avoided her altogether. It is so crazy to me how there could still be that much intolerance in the world for gay marriage.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    I liked this from the article
    "Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.

    Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.

    There is a pretty strong reaction to this news, which I'm sure the Pope will be made aware of... Perhaps this will be a lesson for him. Know exactly what the fuck is going on before meeting with random people who have a religious cause, because this guy is working so hard on the Church's PR campaign, and this has dragged it backwards. Whoopsie-daisies! :tongue: What's next? Is he going to have tea with the Westboro gang?
    Anyway, I was not even a little bit surprised to hear this news. Not even a little bit. This Pope has everyone wrapped around his little finger, but you can only hide the truth for so long.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    I liked this from the article
    "Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.

    Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.

    There is a pretty strong reaction to this news, which I'm sure the Pope will be made aware of... Perhaps this will be a lesson for him. Know exactly what the fuck is going on before meeting with random people who have a religious cause, because this guy is working so hard on the Church's PR campaign, and this has dragged it backwards. Whoopsie-daisies! :tongue: What's next? Is he going to have tea with the Westboro gang?
    Anyway, I was not even a little bit surprised to hear this news. Not even a little bit. This Pope has everyone wrapped around his little finger, but you can only hide the truth for so long.
    Ha, I'm with you here. It has been funny watching people (even on this board) fawn over him like he himself was a messiah. He fucked up here. No surprise to me, he did a pretty good PR job for an organization that has been losing ground by being stuck in the past. He said some good things, but obviously still has some catching up to do. Like I've said previously, he's the most progressive pope I've seen in my lifetime, but that bar is pretty low.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • JUST A GIRL
    JUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    PJ_Soul said:

    Oh damn. I almost managed to forget about this beeotch.

    Still spewing hate towards a good woman.

    She's not a beach like you say. She was doing gods work, many others agree. There's a reason she's now free and back at work.. Because she didn't break a single law.

    Still say she's braver than mlk
  • JUST A GIRL
    JUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    dignin said:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/county-clerk-kim-davis-who-denied-gay-couples-visited-pope.html

    Pope Francis Met With Kim Davis, Kentucky County Clerk, in Washington

    Sounds like the popes a good man. He told them they can't be married where he's from, shits still illegal there. But no one understood what he said. They just smiled and nodded. Heard this on msnbc this morning.
  • JUST A GIRL
    JUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Hey look it's a pope!,
    it's a Kim!,
    it's a Davis!
    It's gutwrenching bullshit http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/vatican-confirms-pope-met-with-kim-davis/ar-AAeXZ9G?li=AAacUQk&ocid=mailsignout

    A win for the good guys!! Jeez, I didn't know this!!! So proud as a Christian woman right now.

    See even the pope agrees!!!

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