County Clerk released

josevolution

So both of these two idiots Cruz & Huckabee both ran to her rescue that makes me want to kick her in her teeth fuck Kentucky t & thank you who ever for me not being born there backwards ass people .....

PJfanwillneverleave1

josevolution said:

So both of these two idiots Cruz & Huckabee both ran to her rescue that makes me want to kick her in her teeth fuck Kentucky t & thank you who ever for me not being born there backwards ass people .....

Thank your parents for having the mind to not having you exposed and live that culture.

Enkidu

I walked in the house and the TV was on and my husband was watching and his mouth was wide open in shock and he said you have to see this and he backed up to show me that whack job walking out to Eye of the Tiger and it was like The Onion come to life.

I am from a small town in the south. I live in LA now and I go to church regularly. I am sick of nut job Christians like Kim Davis making the rest of us look insane.

I go to church. And I don't give a rat's ass if you do or you don't or if you worship TV remotes. It's your business, not mine. But I believe in separation of church and state.

Thanks for letting me vent.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Enkidu said:

I walked in the house and the TV was on and my husband was watching and his mouth was wide open in shock and he said you have to see this and he backed up to show me that whack job walking out to Eye of the Tiger and it was like The Onion come to life.

I am from a small town in the south. I live in LA now and I go to church regularly. I am sick of nut job Christians like Kim Davis making the rest of us look insane.

I go to church. And I don't give a rat's ass if you do or you don't or if you worship TV remotes. It's your business, not mine. But I believe in separation of church and state.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Don't say thanks to anyone for venting on this AMT.
You spoke how you feel.
Forget the aftermath.

brianlux

Enkidu said:

I walked in the house and the TV was on and my husband was watching and his mouth was wide open in shock and he said you have to see this and he backed up to show me that whack job walking out to Eye of the Tiger and it was like The Onion come to life.

I am from a small town in the south. I live in LA now and I go to church regularly. I am sick of nut job Christians like Kim Davis making the rest of us look insane.

I go to church. And I don't give a rat's ass if you do or you don't or if you worship TV remotes. It's your business, not mine. But I believe in separation of church and state.

Thanks for letting me vent.

I don't go to church anymore (no, that's not true, wilderness hikes, sitting on rocks at the seashore watching waves crash in, etc. is my church) but I used to. But either way, that's not something I judge or praise people for. I've known some really horrible church going people and I've known some remarkable church going people. And I would expand that to include all people of faith. Same with atheists. There are incredibly marvelous atheists (Kurt Vonnegut comes to mind right off) and atheists who are terrible people. But you're right, Enkidu, it frustrating to belong to a group and have it marred by self-righteous people like Davis. Maybe that's why for the most part I'm a lone wolf. The closest thing to a group that I belong to is this fan club- and probably because we are a diverse, interesting, and for the most part, fairly intelligent mixture of people. A good place to be.

Godfather.

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

Godfather.

her refusing to issue lic's for .....gay's to marry has created a lot of hate, what happened to the "love" you gay slingers talk about so much ? not a lot of understanding here HAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

rgambs

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

Thrown in jail for contempt of court.
Are you obscuring the truth on purpose or are you ignorant on the topic?

Gern Blansten

Godfather. said:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/08/jailed-kentucky-clerk/

I smell a lawsuit in the works, I can see being fired for refusing to work as directed but jailed ??? there's just a whole bunch of
things that will come into play if she takes this to court.

Godfather.

she was jailed for contempt of court...has nothing to do with her employer

Last-12-Exit

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

You know better GF. Be serious.

Gern Blansten

Godfather. said:

her refusing to issue lic's for .....gay's to marry has created a lot of hate, what happened to the "love" you gay slingers talk about so much ? not a lot of understanding here HAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

It is always interesting to me how right wingers try to insult the left wing with the "what happened to the love" garbage. Why is that the "go to" insult?

Godfather.

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

her refusing to issue lic's for .....gay's to marry has created a lot of hate, what happened to the "love" you gay slingers talk about so much ? not a lot of understanding here HAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

It is always interesting to me how right wingers try to insult the left wing with the "what happened to the love" garbage. Why is that the "go to" insult?

ehhhh...just putting the shoe on the other foot.

Godfather.

josevolution

Godfather. said:

her refusing to issue lic's for .....gay's to marry has created a lot of hate, what happened to the "love" you gay slingers talk about so much ? not a lot of understanding here HAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

She's the one who spewed hate are you that blind really ..

hedonist

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

her refusing to issue lic's for .....gay's to marry has created a lot of hate, what happened to the "love" you gay slingers talk about so much ? not a lot of understanding here HAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

It is always interesting to me how right wingers try to insult the left wing with the "what happened to the love" garbage. Why is that the "go to" insult?

I think the wings should be clipped, Gern.

No more sides.

dignin

hedonist said:

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

her refusing to issue lic's for .....gay's to marry has created a lot of hate, what happened to the "love" you gay slingers talk about so much ? not a lot of understanding here HAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

It is always interesting to me how right wingers try to insult the left wing with the "what happened to the love" garbage. Why is that the "go to" insult?

I think the wings should be clipped, Gern.

No more sides.

We would be blind not to admit that it is a mostly right wing held belief that gays should not be married. Gern is on very solid ground.

Gern Blansten

Yes it is a tea party belief...I would venture to say that the majority of republicans support gay marriage. It's the fringe that doesn't and they just happen to have the biggest mouths so we hear about it more.

hedonist

dignin said:

hedonist said:

Gern Blansten said:

Godfather. said:

her refusing to issue lic's for .....gay's to marry has created a lot of hate, what happened to the "love" you gay slingers talk about so much ? not a lot of understanding here HAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

It is always interesting to me how right wingers try to insult the left wing with the "what happened to the love" garbage. Why is that the "go to" insult?

I think the wings should be clipped, Gern.

No more sides.

We would be blind not to admit that it is a mostly right wing held belief that gays should not be married. Gern is on very solid ground.

True - I happened to venture into the generally-divisive wingy-commentary vs the specific ones to this matter. Apologies. It just gets so tiring sometimes.

Moonpig

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

in all honesty, the legalities aside, I really don't understand her determination to deprive people of happiness, I really don't.

hedonist

Gern Blansten said:

Yes it is a tea party belief...I would venture to say that the majority of republicans support gay marriage. It's the fringe that doesn't and they just happen to have the biggest mouths so we hear about it more.

But this, now that you've clarified, is an extremist view vs the general right winger comment from earlier? This should be differentiated, no? Much as we do with people who live peaceful religious lives and those who take it to ridiculous edges.

Gern Blansten

hedonist said:

Gern Blansten said:

Yes it is a tea party belief...I would venture to say that the majority of republicans support gay marriage. It's the fringe that doesn't and they just happen to have the biggest mouths so we hear about it more.

But this, now that you've clarified, is an extremist view vs the general right winger comment from earlier? This should be differentiated, no? Much as we do with people who live peaceful religious lives and those who take it to ridiculous edges.

The general right winger comment related to GF's comment about why the left wing doesn't "love" people that oppose gay marriage. Really not worth diving into.

callen

Moonpig said:

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

in all honesty, the legalities aside, I really don't understand her determination to deprive people of happiness, I really don't.

Challenges belief system held deeply by many that need purpose to their lives. A big deal.

This will force the church to evolve even faster if it wants to survive. The current pope knows this and he's fighting.

Godfather.

Moonpig said:

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

in all honesty, the legalities aside, I really don't understand her determination to deprive people of happiness, I really don't.

she should be replaced for that part of the job if beliefs don't allow her to do it, I'm not saying she is right or wrong I'm just wondering if they can put her in jail for refusing to do something her religious beliefs don't recomond...my question is if she can be arrested for contempt of court because she refused to marry gay's where does that put other religious actions that come into this country ? and they're out there as well, that's why I said I smell a law suit coming.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul

Godfather. said:

her refusing to issue lic's for .....gay's to marry has created a lot of hate, what happened to the "love" you gay slingers talk about so much ? not a lot of understanding here HAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHHA

Godfather.

If you expect people to be tolerant of intolerance, then you are crazy. I never understood why bigots don't understand that.
GF, I am actually really surprised that you don't seem to give a shit about employees of the government going against the Constitution of your country. But apparently you are okay with it. So I guess you can't use that 2nd Amendment argument when you talk about guns anymore.

callen

Think GF Did say she needed to do her job in earlier post or find another place to work.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

Moonpig said:

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

in all honesty, the legalities aside, I really don't understand her determination to deprive people of happiness, I really don't.

Challenges belief system held deeply by many that need purpose to their lives. A big deal.

This will force the church to evolve even faster if it wants to survive. The current pope knows this and he's fighting.

Do you think he's fighting to preserve the industry... or fighting because he authentically fears for humanity’s salvation?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

Moonpig said:

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

in all honesty, the legalities aside, I really don't understand her determination to deprive people of happiness, I really don't.

Challenges belief system held deeply by many that need purpose to their lives. A big deal.

This will force the church to evolve even faster if it wants to survive. The current pope knows this and he's fighting.

Do you think he's fighting to preserve the industry... or fighting because he authentically fears for humanity’s salvation?

Cliffy6745

Godfather. said:

Moonpig said:

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

in all honesty, the legalities aside, I really don't understand her determination to deprive people of happiness, I really don't.

she should be replaced for that part of the job if beliefs don't allow her to do it, I'm not saying she is right or wrong I'm just wondering if they can put her in jail for refusing to do something her religious beliefs don't recomond...my question is if she can be arrested for contempt of court because she refused to marry gay's where does that put other religious actions that come into this country ? and they're out there as well, that's why I said I smell a law suit coming.

Godfather.

if her other religious beliefs forced her to no do other parts of the job she was elected to do, yeah.

If my religion told me to sell heroin at elementary schools on Tuesdays, think I would be put in jail?

mickeyrat

Godfather. said:

Moonpig said:

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

in all honesty, the legalities aside, I really don't understand her determination to deprive people of happiness, I really don't.

she should be replaced for that part of the job if beliefs don't allow her to do it, I'm not saying she is right or wrong I'm just wondering if they can put her in jail for refusing to do something her religious beliefs don't recomond...my question is if she can be arrested for contempt of court because she refused to marry gay's where does that put other religious actions that come into this country ? and they're out there as well, that's why I said I smell a law suit coming.

Godfather.

Heres the deal Ky law requires(d) the name of the license issuing county clerk on the document. She refused. Fine. But because a name was required she prevented staff from issuing in her name citing her belifes. Again fine. Prior to a finding of contempt she was offered the resulting compromise that got her out in the end. She refused. Not fine. This was all for show.

This should have stayed at state level or the ky legislature should have held emergency session to remove the name requirement.maybe the governor could have ordered a temp suspension of the requirement until they could meet.

THIS WAS NOT an effort to punish belief. She was elected to serve the public. All of the public. She chose to not seek the win-win for all parties. Instead she was advised and chose spectacle. It was a sham.

g under p

Godfather. said:

Moonpig said:

Godfather. said:

just sayin, maybe I'm wrong, either way I don't really care if she goes back to jail,sues or what ever else, you guy's know how I feel about gay marriage but my statement has nothing to do with that, I'm just wondering if she can be thrown in jail for her religious befiefs ? there seems to be a lot going on with that topic lately.

Godfather.

in all honesty, the legalities aside, I really don't understand her determination to deprive people of happiness, I really don't.

she should be replaced for that part of the job if beliefs don't allow her to do it, I'm not saying she is right or wrong I'm just wondering if they can put her in jail for refusing to do something her religious beliefs don't recomond...my question is if she can be arrested for contempt of court because she refused to marry gay's where does that put other religious actions that come into this country ? and they're out there as well, that's why I said I smell a law suit coming.

Godfather.

GF, let's keep this simple and not try to separate parts of her job. I believe her primary job is to issue marriage licenses to all, not marry gay couples. This controversy has nothing to do with other religious beliefs, it has to be focused on the specifics of this case. Her contempt charge given by the judge is for refusal for issuing out those licenses. Then sent to jail, so I don't see on ANY GROUNDS where she has a case to sue and then sue to what become a bigger so called martyr?

Peace

Thirty Bills Unpaid

If her religion prevents her from doing her job... then she should find another job.

GF... I can just imagine you pulling your hair out if someone refused to put pepperoni on your pizza while citing their religion as the reason.

Are you seriously advocating for this idiot?