Inter personal relations in this age

it seems to me that the world has become enthralled with sexual pleasure to the point that there is no standard or moral practice to relations these days. Kids text or share phone #'s, and then it's on.. There's no need to know the person.. No necessity in finding things out about one another.. No perfection to the consummation..
Just sex, in all its raw, explicit glory. The 60's have NOTHING on the free flow of sex and perversions of this day and age.. Those of you whom are parents.. How do you feel about this??
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Sex drive for animals is strong. See no problem with it or our sexually charged society. Sex is healthy and great.
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  • It's a hell of a lot better than shootin' shit.

    With that said... appropriate ages and some level of discretion would be encouraged by myself.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    I don't feel like this is anything new. I think maybe people just talk about it a lot more now.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    I don't think that I agree with you on this, particularly as it relates to teens. The available evidence suggests that fewer teens are actually having sex now than even a decade ago (by a few percentage points). Teen pregnancy in the US has gone down significantly, which is a wonderful thing as almost all of those pregnancies are unplanned, although most of that is likely due to better use of contraception (despite the stubborn refusal of many in power to make access to reliable contraception easier).

    One other thing that I think is a good thing but you may well disagree on, WH - of those teens having sex, a higher percentage are describing their sexual encounters as voluntary; i.e. they are not feeling pressured to have sex by partners or peers. They are making the decision themselves. Are they always making the right decision? Probably not, but at least they are more often feeling in control of that decision.

    I'll say again what I've said before in other threads - I do not feel pessimistic about today's teenagers in the way that many seem to. I know a lot of teens and by and large they are great kids and good human beings.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    I don't think that I agree with you on this, particularly as it relates to teens. The available evidence suggests that fewer teens are actually having sex now than even a decade ago (by a few percentage points). Teen pregnancy in the US has gone down significantly, which is a wonderful thing as almost all of those pregnancies are unplanned, although most of that is likely due to better use of contraception (despite the stubborn refusal of many in power to make access to reliable contraception easier).

    One other thing that I think is a good thing but you may well disagree on, WH - of those teens having sex, a higher percentage are describing their sexual encounters as voluntary; i.e. they are not feeling pressured to have sex by partners or peers. They are making the decision themselves. Are they always making the right decision? Probably not, but at least they are more often feeling in control of that decision.

    I'll say again what I've said before in other threads - I do not feel pessimistic about today's teenagers in the way that many seem to. I know a lot of teens and by and large they are great kids and good human beings.

    I agree. I think the each generation is going to do better than the last. I'm also practicing being extremely optimistic... but why not, right? And I really do think that it's possible, especially if we give kids encouragement to do well.

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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I'm not in agreement.There is just more ways to sell it show it and talk about it.Sex has and will always be the same.We all want sex and we all want to be loved.Its been the same since the garden of Eden.
  • This is the generation where some will get to watch porn on the internet and have that "Holy shit is that my Mom when she was younger" moment. I assume that will scar many sexually.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited August 2015

    This is the generation where some will get to watch porn on the internet and have that "Holy shit is that my Mom when she was younger" moment. I assume that will scar many sexually.

    I was thinking about this the other day. 'Skeletons in the closet' is no longer a relevant expression.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,769
    I'm glad Im not a parent

    :rock_on:
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Availability + anonymity + technology = ...?

    Sexual desire, exploration, satisfaction - of course all natural. Shouldn't be stifled either.

    But I think it's equally important to understand the value of intimacy, of not always literally opening to, or injecting yourself into, just anyone. As Thirty mentioned, some caveats to be acknowledged - important ones.

    And also sometimes restraint? Checking yourself before sending videos of yourself to strangers and/or friends?

    At this point, there are many other means available to those who are horny.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524

    I'm glad Im not a parent

    :rock_on:

    Fuckin a, man. Me too.

    I'd suck at the expense of my kid, or excel at the expense of myself.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited August 2015

    This is the generation where some will get to watch porn on the internet and have that "Holy shit is that my Mom when she was younger" moment. I assume that will scar many sexually.

    Lol. I was talking about that very thing with a co-worker the other day. He was thinking it wouldn't be THAT bad, and then I told him to imagine seeing a porn his own parents made. His parents are from Eastern Europe. He freaked out from the thought of it. Those Eastern Europeans make some pretty freaky-deaky dirty porn. :lol:
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  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    My 14 year old daughter has a smart phone. She has 2 gigs a month that she uses mainly on pandora. My wife has access to her email, instagram, and whatever other account she has. Cait is not allowed to delete any text until my wife sees her texts. I can't say she's never deleted something. But we have compared the phone bill to what is on her phone and its never been off. All of her texts have been accounted for.

    The only time we have had a problem is we found in an Internet browser a website that had sex stories. She said she heard about it from a class mate. We believed her. We know she knows about sex. We've discussed with her. She is not into boys that much, yet. My wife and I trust her and know she will make the correct decision when faced with pressure from boys.

    Now madison, our 11 year old, will be a complete different story. I will fear her teenage years.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Hang in there Scotty boy shits about to get interesting for you.haha teenage girls are grey hair makers.im thankful my wife kept me in check when they brought little assholes home with them.
  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527
    edited August 2015

    My 14 year old daughter has a smart phone. She has 2 gigs a month that she uses mainly on pandora. My wife has access to her email, instagram, and whatever other account she has. Cait is not allowed to delete any text until my wife sees her texts. I can't say she's never deleted something. But we have compared the phone bill to what is on her phone and its never been off. All of her texts have been accounted for.

    The only time we have had a problem is we found in an Internet browser a website that had sex stories. She said she heard about it from a class mate. We believed her. We know she knows about sex. We've discussed with her. She is not into boys that much, yet. My wife and I trust her and know she will make the correct decision when faced with pressure from boys.

    Now madison, our 11 year old, will be a complete different story. I will fear her teenage years.

    This was what I was asking^^^^ and only Scott really answered it..
    callen said:

    Sex drive for animals is strong. See no problem with it or our sexually charged society. Sex is healthy and great.

    As adults, IN proper context.. I'm
    Talking about KIDS.. It is not healthy for kids to practice in it.. Emotionally and intellecually they are not ready for such commitments.
    And sex drive in animals is NOT the same thing.. Most animals will breed their mothers.. Because they know no different, so nowhere near the same relevance.
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  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527
    edited August 2015
    I just couldn't imagine having a child of either gender and dealing with the everyday barrage of sexual interjection all the way down to using sex to sell candy bars these days. And as a conservative I believe there should be appropriate limits to what kids are exposed to.. And these days there's just no filter.. It's EVERYWHERE..., and it won't be long and everyone will be ok with inter familial relationships.. You wanna fuck your brother?? Sure, cause sex is healthy in any case presented right? At least that's how it feels. I mean we're pretty much teaching kids these days that whatever feels good is what's good. Which pretty much boils down to your kids are some other kids's living dildo or pocket pussy, in all reality.. To me it's just sad.. It's scary and unhealthy. ( just wait til your daughters are jaded bitches at20 yrs old because they began relations early and are burned out on love lost..)
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  • whispering handswhispering hands Posts: 13,527
    edited August 2015
    I know I seem
    Like a snooty anti-sex jerk. But I honestly think that sex should have a proper place. And by a proper place I mean within marriage between two people whom
    Have made a commitment to one another for LIFE. It should mean something.. It should not just be this free for all. And I know that I am one of VERY few left in this planet left that still believes in marriage as a life long commitment. I also know that I am the extreme rarity in the fact that I don't practice sex as an outlet device for every little thing in my life, like most everyone else does these days.. It just blows my mind that suddenly everyone is ok with their kids.. KIDS engaging in something that has the power to destroy them mentally. Cause let's face it, even as adults sometimes it's difficult to process why someone whom professed their undying love for you just the day before, suddenly quits calling once they've bedded you. Now imagine the emotional roller coaster that would cause in an already emotionally insecure kid.. It's just fucked up that parents for the most part are so blasé about it all, writing it off as healthy exploration..
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    I don't think that I agree with you on this, particularly as it relates to teens. The available evidence suggests that fewer teens are actually having sex now than even a decade ago (by a few percentage points). Teen pregnancy in the US has gone down significantly, which is a wonderful thing as almost all of those pregnancies are unplanned, although most of that is likely due to better use of contraception (despite the stubborn refusal of many in power to make access to reliable contraception easier).

    One other thing that I think is a good thing but you may well disagree on, WH - of those teens having sex, a higher percentage are describing their sexual encounters as voluntary; i.e. they are not feeling pressured to have sex by partners or peers. They are making the decision themselves. Are they always making the right decision? Probably not, but at least they are more often feeling in control of that decision.

    I'll say again what I've said before in other threads - I do not feel pessimistic about today's teenagers in the way that many seem to. I know a lot of teens and by and large they are great kids and good human beings.

    You nailed it Often. The evidence just doesn't back up Whispering's beliefs.

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    No offense meant, but you do sound very jaded.
    I was 15 the first time I kissed a girl. Before I turned 16 I had sex.
    15 years later she gave birth to our first child!

    Not all stories of teenage sexual exploration are so detached as you seem to think. Part of growing up is learning how to value yourself and others, and just like the rest of life, you learn best by making mistakes!
    Nobody wants 14 year olds having orgies every weekend, but teenage sex is nothing new. Sex among teens is actually falling, and I think the availability of pornography and the relaxed attitudes about sex are part of the reason why. Kids don't have to jump straight into the sheets for intercourse anymore, they better understand the options, alternatives, and risks than they did in former generations.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524

    I just couldn't imagine having a child of either gender and dealing with the everyday barrage of sexual interjection all the way down to using sex to sell candy bars these days. And as a conservative I believe there should be appropriate limits to what kids are exposed to.. And these days there's just no filter.. It's EVERYWHERE..., and it won't be long and everyone will be ok with inter familial relationships.. You wanna fuck your brother?? Sure, cause sex is healthy in any case presented right? At least that's how it feels. I mean we're pretty much teaching kids these days that whatever feels good is what's good. Which pretty much boils down to your kids are some other kids's living dildo or pocket pussy, in all reality.. To me it's just sad.. It's scary and unhealthy. ( just wait til your daughters are jaded bitches at20 yrs old because they began relations early and are burned out on love lost..)

    The bolded part strikes me as quite a leap, almost akin to those who oppose gay marriage talking about what's next - wedding your pet pot-bellied pig?

    As to limiting sex to within the confines of marriage, it's just not realistic. What about those who choose not to marry, or aren't allowed to? Or aren't ready to?

    I think gambs' comment about self-worth was important too, as well as how Last-12 is handling this time in his daughter's life.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited August 2015
    I'll always remember a discussion I overheard between my parents regarding my sister- who was in grade 12 and 17- and her boyfriend who stayed the night on occasion.

    My father was staunchly opposed to the idea of it and was about to assert his parental rights, but my mother stood up to him. She said (a little more colorfully), "There going to do it. I would much rather her in the comfort of her own bed than the back of a car."
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2015
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited August 2015
    Communication is key with kids. This includes our new technologies.

    Not surprised that teen sex is down. Hiding things drives want to check things out, drugs, alcohol etc
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  • hedonist said:

    I just couldn't imagine having a child of either gender and dealing with the everyday barrage of sexual interjection all the way down to using sex to sell candy bars these days. And as a conservative I believe there should be appropriate limits to what kids are exposed to.. And these days there's just no filter.. It's EVERYWHERE..., and it won't be long and everyone will be ok with inter familial relationships.. You wanna fuck your brother?? Sure, cause sex is healthy in any case presented right? At least that's how it feels. I mean we're pretty much teaching kids these days that whatever feels good is what's good. Which pretty much boils down to your kids are some other kids's living dildo or pocket pussy, in all reality.. To me it's just sad.. It's scary and unhealthy. ( just wait til your daughters are jaded bitches at20 yrs old because they began relations early and are burned out on love lost..)

    The bolded part strikes me as quite a leap, almost akin to those who oppose gay marriage talking about what's next - wedding your pet pot-bellied pig?

    As to limiting sex to within the confines of marriage, it's just not realistic. What about those who choose not to marry, or aren't allowed to? Or aren't ready to?

    I think gambs' comment about self-worth was important too, as well as how Last-12 is handling this time in his daughter's life.
    Just curious on how that is a stretch??? Thee are already people that think this is ok.. And practice it. So whose to say those people sick and demented as it is.. Doesn't stand up kne day and say they want equality too?? What happens then?? Do the PC vision holders seeking optimal correctness start looking other way? Like we did with abortion and tge morning after pill?? It really is the same thing.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited August 2015

    hedonist said:

    I just couldn't imagine having a child of either gender and dealing with the everyday barrage of sexual interjection all the way down to using sex to sell candy bars these days. And as a conservative I believe there should be appropriate limits to what kids are exposed to.. And these days there's just no filter.. It's EVERYWHERE..., and it won't be long and everyone will be ok with inter familial relationships.. You wanna fuck your brother?? Sure, cause sex is healthy in any case presented right? At least that's how it feels. I mean we're pretty much teaching kids these days that whatever feels good is what's good. Which pretty much boils down to your kids are some other kids's living dildo or pocket pussy, in all reality.. To me it's just sad.. It's scary and unhealthy. ( just wait til your daughters are jaded bitches at20 yrs old because they began relations early and are burned out on love lost..)

    The bolded part strikes me as quite a leap, almost akin to those who oppose gay marriage talking about what's next - wedding your pet pot-bellied pig?

    As to limiting sex to within the confines of marriage, it's just not realistic. What about those who choose not to marry, or aren't allowed to? Or aren't ready to?

    I think gambs' comment about self-worth was important too, as well as how Last-12 is handling this time in his daughter's life.
    Just curious on how that is a stretch??? Thee are already people that think this is ok.. And practice it. So whose to say those people sick and demented as it is.. Doesn't stand up kne day and say they want equality too?? What happens then?? Do the PC vision holders seeking optimal correctness start looking other way? Like we did with abortion and tge morning after pill?? It really is the same thing.
    What's wrong with the morning after pill? Emergency contraception is just slightly higher concentration of birth control medicines which PREVENT fertilization of an egg.
    Are you against birth control?
    Is this thread a veiled abstinence platform?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    The rosy past of sexual purity that you imagine never existed. The teen pregnancy rate is now half of what it was in the 1950s. Sure, some of those pregnancies in the '50s occurred in couples that were already married, but a whole lot occurred in girls who either got married shortly after or mysteriously went away to stay with an aunt for a few months.

    And sex between family members, even siblings, has occurred since time immemorial. Many cultures have practiced it, from the Egyptians to the Romans to the British to those in the backwoods of the USA, either for dynastic reasons or simply due to lack of available alternatives. I'd say the rates are probably less now than in the past, but I don't have evidence for that and am not that interested in looking it up.

    Trying to ignore the fact that most humans naturally have a sex drive has never worked out well. Countries that recognize this and give our children and teens correct information and support have the healthiest populations.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524

    hedonist said:

    I just couldn't imagine having a child of either gender and dealing with the everyday barrage of sexual interjection all the way down to using sex to sell candy bars these days. And as a conservative I believe there should be appropriate limits to what kids are exposed to.. And these days there's just no filter.. It's EVERYWHERE..., and it won't be long and everyone will be ok with inter familial relationships.. You wanna fuck your brother?? Sure, cause sex is healthy in any case presented right? At least that's how it feels. I mean we're pretty much teaching kids these days that whatever feels good is what's good. Which pretty much boils down to your kids are some other kids's living dildo or pocket pussy, in all reality.. To me it's just sad.. It's scary and unhealthy. ( just wait til your daughters are jaded bitches at20 yrs old because they began relations early and are burned out on love lost..)

    The bolded part strikes me as quite a leap, almost akin to those who oppose gay marriage talking about what's next - wedding your pet pot-bellied pig?

    As to limiting sex to within the confines of marriage, it's just not realistic. What about those who choose not to marry, or aren't allowed to? Or aren't ready to?

    I think gambs' comment about self-worth was important too, as well as how Last-12 is handling this time in his daughter's life.
    Just curious on how that is a stretch??? Thee are already people that think this is ok.. And practice it. So whose to say those people sick and demented as it is.. Doesn't stand up kne day and say they want equality too?? What happens then?? Do the PC vision holders seeking optimal correctness start looking other way? Like we did with abortion and tge morning after pill?? It really is the same thing.
    But what is the same thing? Are abortion and Plan B equated to incest?

    Sorry to have strayed from the original point. Conversations here have a way of doing that :)

    often - I appreciate your input on this. There are many acts that were practiced (and maybe just accepted?) in those earlier times. Some of those are just unacceptable now, or at the least, are discouraged as we're much more aware of the repercussions.
  • I will agree with WH on on one thing, this incest shit needs to stop. I don't know any facts if it is happening or becoming a fantasy thing but have you been on pornhub or other sites lately? Every fucking video is titled 'Mother shows her daughter and her boyfriend how to fuck' and other things like that. If anything is disturbing me about the craziness this world has become it is that. Maybe I just want to watch 2 chicks and 1 dude get it on without someone having to put mother and daughter into the equation. God dammnit stop ruining my porn. What happened to pizza delivery man and the soriety story lines and the such.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I had no idea that was going on. Haven't found the allure in porn that I used to (and I used to!), so don't visit those sites.

    Pretty sad, whether that kind of porn is actually incestual or being portrayed as such because some get off on that.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:

    I had no idea that was going on. Haven't found the allure in porn that I used to (and I used to!), so don't visit those sites.

    Pretty sad, whether that kind of porn is actually incestual or being portrayed as such because some get off on that.

    It is just a portrayal, many of them say stuff like mother and (not) daughter yada yada...
    I think it has more to do with porn addiction and the desensitization that comes with having such a huge variety of porn so readily available. People watch too much normal sex and then down the road the fetish stuff is the only thing that gives the same excitement they used to get.
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