Yes, these threads wander from point.. My question WAS.. With personal and individual values being so heavily placed on sexual relativity, and the fact that sex is shoved down our throats no matter what we're doing or participating in... Does it worry you parents raising kids in this type of day and age of sex is everything? And does ghe fact that love now is equal to sex effect how you are raising your kids?
I Mean they say sex in excess is healthy yes?? Just fuck Whenever, whoever, wherever, and you'll find happiness.. Buuuuuut... Back in the 1800's through the earlier 80's people either believed smoking was good for you; healthy even By some accounts.. So as parents do you ever fear that this is becoming 'one if those trends'?
I know I seem Like a snooty anti-sex jerk. But I honestly think that sex should have a proper place. And by a proper place I mean within marriage between two people whom Have made a commitment to one another for LIFE. It should mean something.. It should not just be this free for all. And I know that I am one of VERY few left in this planet left that still believes in marriage as a life long commitment. I also know that I am the extreme rarity in the fact that I don't practice sex as an outlet device for every little thing in my life, like most everyone else does these days.. It just blows my mind that suddenly everyone is ok with their kids.. KIDS engaging in something that has the power to destroy them mentally. Cause let's face it, even as adults sometimes it's difficult to process why someone whom professed their undying love for you just the day before, suddenly quits calling once they've bedded you. Now imagine the emotional roller coaster that would cause in an already emotionally insecure kid.. It's just fucked up that parents for the most part are so blasé about it all, writing it off as healthy exploration..
Well damn. I am sure glad i didn't develop the same kinds of beliefs, because that would mean I'd be a 39 year old virgin! Um, FYI, just because you don't marry a person it doesn't mean that you don't care about them. Also, I don't understand why you would give a shit about who is having sex with whom and for what reason. Why should people who don't want profound attachment be deprived of the pleasure of sex??? That seems unbelievably unfair to me. I also think that this kind of attitude towards sex can totally fuck up a person's sex life forever, especially when you're talking about young people. I have never seen anything to suggest that extremely prudish and restrictive attitudes about sex would screw anyone up less than very relaxed attitudes about it. On the contrary.... ideas of guilt and wrongness paired with sex is very destructive to a person.
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Yes, these threads wander from point.. My question WAS.. With personal and individual values being so heavily placed on sexual relativity, and the fact that sex is shoved down our throats no matter what we're doing or participating in... Does it worry you parents raising kids in this type of day and age of sex is everything? And does ghe fact that love now is equal to sex effect how you are raising your kids?
I Mean they say sex in excess is healthy yes?? Just fuck Whenever, whoever, wherever, and you'll find happiness.. Buuuuuut... Back in the 1800's through the earlier 80's people either believed smoking was good for you; healthy even By some accounts.. So as parents do you ever fear that this is becoming 'one if those trends'?
I think that is an assumption on your part that is way off base. My cousin is younger, from the first generation of sext messagers... He has had sex with many girls, and it has had zero effect on his capacity to love. In fact, now that he has found the woman he is going to spend his life with, he appreciates her even more because of the depth of love which he hadn't shared with anyone prior. Sex without love can be damaging, but so can anything pleasurable, from alcohol and pot to sugar and sex. It is a mistake for you to think that sex without deep, abiding love is damaging, or wrong. It may have been in your experience, I don't know, but it isn't so for everyone. In fact, given what little I know of your history of love, I would ask you to consider if you might have been damaged less in life had you engaged with men in a more physical way, and less spiritual. It is worth thinking about, I know that nobody on this Earth could hurt me more than the love of my life. Love is a great risk, and if people are hesitant to take that risk, I think they should still have the pleasure of sex!
A wise woman I know once said, "It's much easier to have sex with someone you don't love than it is to kiss someone you don't love." Sex is our animal nature and it's very normal to want to satisfy that desire but what most of us (and our kids) really want is to love and be loved.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
When people get married and they walk down the aisle as newlyweds they both have giant smiles on their faces. The man is smiling because he doesn't have to worry about finding sex anymore. The woman is smiling because she won't have to give it anymore.
When people get married and they walk down the aisle as newlyweds they both have giant smiles on their faces. The man is smiling because he doesn't have to worry about finding sex anymore. The woman is smiling because she won't have to give it anymore.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I just couldn't imagine having a child of either gender and dealing with the everyday barrage of sexual interjection all the way down to using sex to sell candy bars these days. And as a conservative I believe there should be appropriate limits to what kids are exposed to.. And these days there's just no filter.. It's EVERYWHERE..., and it won't be long and everyone will be ok with inter familial relationships.. You wanna fuck your brother?? Sure, cause sex is healthy in any case presented right? At least that's how it feels. I mean we're pretty much teaching kids these days that whatever feels good is what's good. Which pretty much boils down to your kids are some other kids's living dildo or pocket pussy, in all reality.. To me it's just sad.. It's scary and unhealthy. ( just wait til your daughters are jaded bitches at20 yrs old because they began relations early and are burned out on love lost..)
The bolded part strikes me as quite a leap, almost akin to those who oppose gay marriage talking about what's next - wedding your pet pot-bellied pig?
As to limiting sex to within the confines of marriage, it's just not realistic. What about those who choose not to marry, or aren't allowed to? Or aren't ready to?
I think gambs' comment about self-worth was important too, as well as how Last-12 is handling this time in his daughter's life.
Just curious on how that is a stretch??? Thee are already people that think this is ok.. And practice it. So whose to say those people sick and demented as it is.. Doesn't stand up kne day and say they want equality too?? What happens then?? Do the PC vision holders seeking optimal correctness start looking other way? Like we did with abortion and tge morning after pill?? It really is the same thing.
What's wrong with the morning after pill? Emergency contraception is just slightly higher concentration of birth control medicines which PREVENT fertilization of an egg. Are you against birth control? Is this thread a veiled abstinence platform?
For the record, the morning after pill isn't exclusively used as a drug store fix to a night without birth control. I will tell you that when I was pregnant with our first daughter, she passed away. The morning after pill was one of the three remedies that they used to induce labor. At that point Bailey was no longer alive, but very much 22 weeks of development. Baby girl needed to come out, as I was in the throes of severe preeclampsia (it very nearly killed me) and it was too much of a risk for me to go in for a c-section. I wouldn't have made it through the procedure. For a week, it was questionable that I would make it at all. (My blood pressure was heinously high. So high that intensive care had to come to me. I was too bad to even move to that section of the hospital. I had to have a central line placed in without anything to numb the site as they didn't even have time for that. I might add, it hurt like hell.)
I say this not to solicit sympathy, but because I don't want you to write such a remedy off thinking that it is only something used by teenagers after an unplanned night of sexual activity. There is true medical worth with the morning after pill. It is a good reason of why I'm still here today.
I just couldn't imagine having a child of either gender and dealing with the everyday barrage of sexual interjection all the way down to using sex to sell candy bars these days. And as a conservative I believe there should be appropriate limits to what kids are exposed to.. And these days there's just no filter.. It's EVERYWHERE..., and it won't be long and everyone will be ok with inter familial relationships.. You wanna fuck your brother?? Sure, cause sex is healthy in any case presented right? At least that's how it feels. I mean we're pretty much teaching kids these days that whatever feels good is what's good. Which pretty much boils down to your kids are some other kids's living dildo or pocket pussy, in all reality.. To me it's just sad.. It's scary and unhealthy. ( just wait til your daughters are jaded bitches at20 yrs old because they began relations early and are burned out on love lost..)
The bolded part strikes me as quite a leap, almost akin to those who oppose gay marriage talking about what's next - wedding your pet pot-bellied pig?
As to limiting sex to within the confines of marriage, it's just not realistic. What about those who choose not to marry, or aren't allowed to? Or aren't ready to?
I think gambs' comment about self-worth was important too, as well as how Last-12 is handling this time in his daughter's life.
Just curious on how that is a stretch??? Thee are already people that think this is ok.. And practice it. So whose to say those people sick and demented as it is.. Doesn't stand up kne day and say they want equality too?? What happens then?? Do the PC vision holders seeking optimal correctness start looking other way? Like we did with abortion and tge morning after pill?? It really is the same thing.
But what is the same thing? Are abortion and Plan B equated to incest?
Sorry to have strayed from the original point. Conversations here have a way of doing that
often - I appreciate your input on this. There are many acts that were practiced (and maybe just accepted?) in those earlier times. Some of those are just unacceptable now, or at the least, are discouraged as we're much more aware of the repercussions.
Hedo, I hope it didn't come across as if I was in favour of incest; I was just hoping to point out that it's something that has been around since the dawn of time and very likely is less prevalent and less acceptable now. I would assume that the porn sites that Ani was referring to aren't actually showing incestual sex; it's all about the marketing. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
And I say that not knowing if there's a point to going on with the discussion anyway, but I've appreciated the points made.
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When people get married and they walk down the aisle as newlyweds they both have giant smiles on their faces. The man is smiling because he doesn't have to worry about finding sex anymore. The woman is smiling because she won't have to give it anymore.
Hedo, I hope it didn't come across as if I was in favour of incest; I was just hoping to point out that it's something that has been around since the dawn of time and very likely is less prevalent and less acceptable now. I would assume that the porn sites that Ani was referring to aren't actually showing incestual sex; it's all about the marketing. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
And I say that not knowing if there's a point to going on with the discussion anyway, but I've appreciated the points made.
Absolutely not did you appear to support that, often! Just wanted to address that earlier point. I've a good idea of the kind of person you are
deadend...thank you for sharing your experience. I can't imagine the fear, pain and heartache you and yours went through. I wasn't even aware of that medicine's use beyond what I've heard (and am quite glad you're here).
I know the women in the porn are not mother and daugher but why try and put the imagery in peoples heads before they spank it (or fiddle it depending on your sex). I miss the old days where a dude would walk into a room of two women fooling around without that part. That and all this teen shit needs to go.
And i enjoyed expolring the depths of many women before I got married.
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I know the women in the porn are not mother and daugher but why try and put the imagery in peoples heads before they spank it (or fiddle it depending on your sex). I miss the old days where a dude would walk into a room of two women fooling around without that part. That and all this teen shit needs to go.
And i enjoyed expolring the depths of many women before I got married.
Excellent use of innuendo, Ani!
And I agree there's much to be said for simplicity (pizza guy, plumber, what have you), even if not on the porn-front.
Honestly, I don't know how parents (steps included) get through this time with their children, IN this time. It's heartening to see how much thought and effort are put into the process by many here.
Parent of two here daughter 18 son 21 , i leave the girl talk to my wife she put my daughter on birth control at 17 my son was always very responsible about sex i did the guy talk with him all good so far .....
I think my kids are growing up in the perfect time: sex IS everywhere, but we are in a time where there is very good anti-sexualizing and pro-body shape and pro-woman empowerment movements going on. Free the nipple, for instance. Allowing for people of all orientations and shapes and sizes to be able to express themselves in a way that counters the back room nonsense of yesteryear. Does it bother me when I see my 9 year old dancing in the mirror while listening to Britney? A bit, yeah, but my sister did that too, and she is as prudish as they come.
Its funny, as I walk past a Victoria Secret store in the mall, and see the 6' tall blonde model poster in the window, and to me I find that fashion hasn't caught up with the sexy trends of today. They seem outdated to me. Its not 1985 anymore.
Incest as an acceptable norm? Come on. Yeah, some guys have fantasies about doing their girlfriend and/or her mom, but fantasy is just that: a dream that is ideal in that setting, and weird in reality. It is the same as a bunch of women hiring a stripper to show up at a bachelorette party dressed as the pizza guy: 9 (or maybe even 10) out of 10 of them would never actually fuck their pizza delivery boy after answering the door in nothing but high heeled boots.
Does it worry you parents raising kids in this type of day and age of sex is everything? And does ghe fact that love now is equal to sex effect how you are raising your kids?
Not a parent, but I don't think this is what is happening. I would think it almost goes the opposite way. If there is too much stimulation around, relationships and physical togetherness are probably seen as the "forbidden fruit", and thus, more intriguing than pure sex.
And damn, have some trust in the parents. Love, tolerance, open communication and honesty go a long way to prepare a human being for life.
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Mean they say sex in excess is healthy yes?? Just fuck
Whenever, whoever, wherever, and you'll find happiness.. Buuuuuut... Back in the 1800's through the earlier 80's people either believed smoking was good for you; healthy even
By some accounts.. So as parents do you ever fear that this is becoming 'one if those trends'?
Um, FYI, just because you don't marry a person it doesn't mean that you don't care about them. Also, I don't understand why you would give a shit about who is having sex with whom and for what reason. Why should people who don't want profound attachment be deprived of the pleasure of sex??? That seems unbelievably unfair to me.
I also think that this kind of attitude towards sex can totally fuck up a person's sex life forever, especially when you're talking about young people. I have never seen anything to suggest that extremely prudish and restrictive attitudes about sex would screw anyone up less than very relaxed attitudes about it. On the contrary.... ideas of guilt and wrongness paired with sex is very destructive to a person.
Sex without love can be damaging, but so can anything pleasurable, from alcohol and pot to sugar and sex. It is a mistake for you to think that sex without deep, abiding love is damaging, or wrong.
It may have been in your experience, I don't know, but it isn't so for everyone.
In fact, given what little I know of your history of love, I would ask you to consider if you might have been damaged less in life had you engaged with men in a more physical way, and less spiritual.
It is worth thinking about, I know that nobody on this Earth could hurt me more than the love of my life. Love is a great risk, and if people are hesitant to take that risk, I think they should still have the pleasure of sex!
The man is smiling because he doesn't have to worry about finding sex anymore.
The woman is smiling because she won't have to give it anymore.
I say this not to solicit sympathy, but because I don't want you to write such a remedy off thinking that it is only something used by teenagers after an unplanned night of sexual activity. There is true medical worth with the morning after pill. It is a good reason of why I'm still here today.
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And I say that not knowing if there's a point to going on with the discussion anyway, but I've appreciated the points made.
deadend...thank you for sharing your experience. I can't imagine the fear, pain and heartache you and yours went through. I wasn't even aware of that medicine's use beyond what I've heard (and am quite glad you're here).
And i enjoyed expolring the depths of many women before I got married.
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And I agree there's much to be said for simplicity (pizza guy, plumber, what have you), even if not on the porn-front.
Honestly, I don't know how parents (steps included) get through this time with their children, IN this time. It's heartening to see how much thought and effort are put into the process by many here.
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Its funny, as I walk past a Victoria Secret store in the mall, and see the 6' tall blonde model poster in the window, and to me I find that fashion hasn't caught up with the sexy trends of today. They seem outdated to me. Its not 1985 anymore.
Incest as an acceptable norm? Come on. Yeah, some guys have fantasies about doing their girlfriend and/or her mom, but fantasy is just that: a dream that is ideal in that setting, and weird in reality. It is the same as a bunch of women hiring a stripper to show up at a bachelorette party dressed as the pizza guy: 9 (or maybe even 10) out of 10 of them would never actually fuck their pizza delivery boy after answering the door in nothing but high heeled boots.
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And damn, have some trust in the parents. Love, tolerance, open communication and honesty go a long way to prepare a human being for life.
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