Gone Live: Raffle a Benny?

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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    100 Pacer said:

    If you're looking to sell it you're better off naming your asking price and dealing with a single individual. Asking a significant amount of people to start sending you raffle payments via Paypal is just asking for trouble with Paypal. You can't run a raffle with Paypal and you're liable for the funds with chargebacks. Just not worth the headache on your part.

    This, careful with paypal.

    Can run payments through go fund me.

    Never heard of a raffle done through go fund me, it may be a good option, there's a cap on how much you can collect.

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  • manitouman
    manitouman In My Head Posts: 1,088
    Beginning to sound like more hassle than it's worth. Anyone with experience running some of these other raffles care to share how they are conducted? As it stands now, I'm thinking 20 entries at $100 each which covers everything including a generous donation to OYR. I really liked that suggestion!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    edited August 2015
    so $5 per entry?
    I thought for a second there that you said $100 per entry, and I was all :tired_face:

    :lol:

    I don't think it's much trouble. Just take the money via friends and family on paypal, say that they must give their forum name when they send the funds, and keep a list of it all. Easy peazy. :)
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  • adamg5
    adamg5 Posts: 803
    I'm double in
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    JB23237 said:

    Paypal is fine friends and family

    One or two payments won't trigger a warning; however, numerous payments as "friends & family" for the same amount will cause the account to be flagged and likely suspended while Paypal investigates. Paypal's rules are very specific and they hold all the cards.
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  • JB23237
    JB23237 Posts: 1,381
    People use friends and family all the time on Fb raffles sometime 100 entries
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  • Kmac84
    Kmac84 Posts: 59
    I'd be down for this
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    Make sure no one types the word "raffle" anywhere, at all, no exceptions when they make the payment. That'll really raise the red flag in PayPal heaven.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    100 Pacer said:

    JB23237 said:

    Paypal is fine friends and family

    One or two payments won't trigger a warning; however, numerous payments as "friends & family" for the same amount will cause the account to be flagged and likely suspended while Paypal investigates. Paypal's rules are very specific and they hold all the cards.
    Interesting.
    Well, gofundme works too, and I don't think they have limitations like that, do they? :)

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  • VedderMTL
    VedderMTL Montreal, Canada Posts: 1,401
    JB23237 said:

    People use friends and family all the time on Fb raffles sometime 100 entries

    Yippers
  • manitouman
    manitouman In My Head Posts: 1,088
    THIS IS STILL JUST AN IDEA. I'LL CREATE ANOTHER THREAD ONCE IT'S OPEN

    Okay, I'm home now so I can adequately answer comments.

    First and foremost....thanks for all the comments. I don't post here a whole lot but have been here for quite some time just admiring the views. I am not going to say that I'm crushed for having to sell the Benny. As a matter of fact I'm kind of excited. The money is going to fund an appropriate burial for our service dog of 10 1/2 years. She was diagnosed with cancer about 4 years ago and wasn't given much of a chance. Recently she's been diagnosed with Cushing's disease and the vet gives her about 9 months to live. She's an Italian Greyhound and full grown is all of 14 pounds. With that (damn) Subaru commercial playing that Willie Nelson song it really inspired us to do something good for her while she's still able to have some fun.Believe me or not...that's my story.

    The Benny: I had one originally. I hit a hard spot and had to sell it. I was fortunate enough to be in a position to buy another but not without it costing me a pretty penny. I don't know how to search ebay's historical sales but it it goes back about a year ago there's one that sold "buy it now" for $1600 and it was still sealed. Yup, like I said, I was in a good position to re-aquire what I had to give up some time ago. Since I've had it, I did open it, spin washed all the records, placed them in mobile fidelity master sleeves and put it away. I took it out once to hear All Or None which is by far one of the best songs IMO. And it just sits there. Someone would appreciate this much more than it just sitting in a record cabinet.

    So $1600 would have been my goal number to hit. I feel like $100 entry would keep things nice and neat without having to deal with too many entries and paypal payments, etc. I really liked the donation to OYR, so thanks for that suggestion.

    I picked up some table top tennis balls and will number from 1 to 20 and draw from a bucket. I'll even go as far to video record the drawing. My magic number is still $1600 so what I plan on doing is make it 20 entries. 16 entries ($1600) covers my original purchase, 1 entry ($100) will cover US shipping or up to $30 international shipping (winner covers rest of actual shipping cost) & packing supplies and the remaining 3 entries ($300) will be donated to OYR in Pixie's name.

    Question about using friends and family versus payment for goods. What's the difference besides the 3% I'll be charged? I thought to cover that with the $100 set aside for shipping costs. Any other reason to use friends and family? So no "raffle" comments at all? Can you put any kind of comment? "PJ Benny Extravaganza"? Or how about "Pixie's Party"?

    Not familiar with Go Fund Me so don't want the hassle of learning something new just for this.
    Any other reasons NOT to do it this way? I'll check back periodically and once I feel like everything's in place I'll begin another Offical thread (that was done on purpose) announcing the beginning of the raffle. We are not starting this yet! I just want to make sure all my ducks are in row. Once I start the thread I'll also post pics of the Benny.

    And lastly and I hope this picture posts correctly.....Meet Pixie!

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    Sad story but it all makes sense to me, man. Others on here will surely know more about all the intricate details, but I will tell you that this may be the only way you'll get that $1600 back, because I think that's a bit high of an asking price for an opened Benny.

    With that said, $100 for a 1/20 chance to win a very expensive piece is a great opportunity for people, so I think it's a good idea and people will be happy to help pay your dog's burial for a chance, plus to have a few 100 bones grown to
    OYR.

    I would call it Pixies Party or something, don't mention a raffle. Friends and family means there's no charge, goods & services means there's a 3% fee.

    Anyway, it makes sense to me. I'm sure someone else here will go over the real specifics.
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  • Horse2345
    Horse2345 Posts: 3,294
    $100 to cover shipping but international only gets $30 of it?
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  • scurtis
    scurtis Posts: 2,477
    I would be interested in a raffle $100 is too much for me though. If you go to 80 entries at $20 or something like that, that would be more up my alley.
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  • manitouman
    manitouman In My Head Posts: 1,088
    Horse2345 said:

    $100 to cover shipping but international only gets $30 of it?

    Sorry, not going to break down to the nickel. I was thinking if I go regular pay for goods the 3% would be $60. Shipping to US might hit $20 insured and by Priority Mail. Maybe Fedex, maybe UPS. Packing materials to ensure a safe journey. Basically would be covering shipping entirely.

    If it was international it'd still be $60 to cover 3% fees leaving $40 to ship. International shipping is expensive and sending something like this with it's declared value will really be expensive. I can't cover all that. So that's why the up to $30 being offered for international shipping. I don't know what all the fees and charges will be to send overseas but I can't be expected to eat the costs.

    If it's decided that friends and family won't delay or flag the process then I'd cover up to $50 of international shipping since I won't be charged the 3% fee. The rest could cover incidentals: packing materials, time, gas to the post office, a pineapple shake, a nice bone in ribeye for my dog.

    Point is that I could have limited this to US only but I'm sure there may be a Benny-less home over seas.

    Oh, and one entry per person open for only a week. Not until all 20 slots are filled will I send out payment info. First come, first serve via PM only. Those wanting 2 or more entries can note that in their PM. If there are still spots open at the end of the week then those will be given out on a first asked first served basis.

    Not open yet, new thread coming tomorrow afternoon. This has been a great discussion and learning experience for me. Any other questions, comments or advice?

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    scurtis said:

    I would be interested in a raffle $100 is too much for me though. If you go to 80 entries at $20 or something like that, that would be more up my alley.

    Yeah, me too. I can't afford to lose $100. I do wish we could just buy 1 ticket for $10 or something - get way more people in there for the chance. But good luck.
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  • SJD3232
    SJD3232 Posts: 2,203
    Count me in!!
  • I would love to be able to spend $100 on a chance, that's a little too steep for me right now. I'm sure you will be able to fill up the raffle, good luck!
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  • HesCalledDyer
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