During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
Dig this is complete propaganda.Enough of this nonsense already.I heard some white politician talking in a public forum with a mixed crowd on CNN this week he started to say Black Lives Matter,White Lives Matter,All lives matter but when he got to White lives the boos from the crowd nearly drowned him out,Nonsense. According to the above rascist Ms Bland did nothing wrong except be black.Bullshit!!!!! Race division in this country is being fueled by the black community and nonsense like this.Regardless of color an individual needs to own there own actions.period,
She was mouthy. Whoop. Dee. Fucking. Doo.
Your tone reminds me of the 3rd generation MD's that preached about how hard they worked and if people owned their actions and worked harder they could have anything they wanted.
Doctors? And I don't disagree with that^^^^
3rd generation doctors acting like they understand what it's like to make something of yourself. It was pathetic. Men who never had a callous talking about hard work. Men who only got summer jobs so they could party talking about the choices they made as if they had made great sacrifices. Men who had never had debt, with men who handled their finances for them talking about financial responsibility as if they knew about hard choices.
Everyone in America has a chance to climb to the top of the highest mountain. Some have to hike across the desert to even make the attempt, some are born at high elevation. It sickens me that it's so common that those born near the peak try to negate the struggle of the real ttrekkers by talking about their hard climb.
Dig this is complete propaganda.Enough of this nonsense already.I heard some white politician talking in a public forum with a mixed crowd on CNN this week he started to say Black Lives Matter,White Lives Matter,All lives matter but when he got to White lives the boos from the crowd nearly drowned him out,Nonsense. According to the above rascist Ms Bland did nothing wrong except be black.Bullshit!!!!! Race division in this country is being fueled by the black community and nonsense like this.Regardless of color an individual needs to own there own actions.period,
She was mouthy. Whoop. Dee. Fucking. Doo.
Your tone reminds me of the 3rd generation MD's that preached about how hard they worked and if people owned their actions and worked harder they could have anything they wanted.
Doctors? And I don't disagree with that^^^^
3rd generation doctors acting like they understand what it's like to make something of yourself. It was pathetic. Men who never had a callous talking about hard work. Men who only got summer jobs so they could party talking about the choices they made as if they had made great sacrifices. Men who had never had debt, with men who handled their finances for them talking about financial responsibility as if they knew about hard choices.
Everyone in America has a chance to climb to the top of the highest mountain. Some have to hike across the desert to even make the attempt, some are born at high elevation. It sickens me that it's so common that those born near the peak try to negate the struggle of the real ttrekkers by talking about their hard climb.
Agreed,some of privelegde don't know the struggles.
But Gambsy, I built everything I have with sweat equity and sacrifice.No help from anyone Espescially not the Govt.So I feel I can personally talk from that vantage point.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
Dig this is complete propaganda.Enough of this nonsense already.I heard some white politician talking in a public forum with a mixed crowd on CNN this week he started to say Black Lives Matter,White Lives Matter,All lives matter but when he got to White lives the boos from the crowd nearly drowned him out,Nonsense. According to the above rascist Ms Bland did nothing wrong except be black.Bullshit!!!!! Race division in this country is being fueled by the black community and nonsense like this.Regardless of color an individual needs to own there own actions.period,
She was mouthy. Whoop. Dee. Fucking. Doo.
Your tone reminds me of the 3rd generation MD's that preached about how hard they worked and if people owned their actions and worked harder they could have anything they wanted.
Doctors? And I don't disagree with that^^^^
3rd generation doctors acting like they understand what it's like to make something of yourself. It was pathetic. Men who never had a callous talking about hard work. Men who only got summer jobs so they could party talking about the choices they made as if they had made great sacrifices. Men who had never had debt, with men who handled their finances for them talking about financial responsibility as if they knew about hard choices.
Everyone in America has a chance to climb to the top of the highest mountain. Some have to hike across the desert to even make the attempt, some are born at high elevation. It sickens me that it's so common that those born near the peak try to negate the struggle of the real ttrekkers by talking about their hard climb.
Agreed,some of privelegde don't know the struggles.
But Gambsy, I built everything I have with sweat equity and sacrifice.No help from anyone Espescially not the Govt.So I feel I can personally talk from that vantage point.
Yeah, I wasn't saying you were a bourgy prick who started near the top, only that my experience with that tone is negative. I will say though, especially in your generation, if you had started from the same economic starting point but been black or Hispanic... There is no doubt your struggle would have been much more difficult. I am not a fan of the term "white privilege", but it is a real thing without a doubt.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to have a reason.
She was being belligerent.No revenge at all.He was doing his job,trying to keep situation from getting out of hand.And seeing how she didn't get beaten,tazed or abused then I would say he did just that.
She was being belligerent.No revenge at all.He was doing his job,trying to keep situation from getting out of hand.And seeing how she didn't get beaten,tazed or abused then I would say he did just that.
That doesn't make sense. Removing her from the car for mouthing off is not keeping it from getting out of hand, that's asinine. That is encouraging it to get out of hand. Keeping it from getting out of control would be saying "I was going to give you a warning, but since you have a bad attitude, here's your citation. Drive safer and have more respect, goodbye."
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
How much review is necessary here?
A legal piece was already submitted- on the part of a police critic (I think it was Often)- that explained in very clear language why the cop was within his rights and justified asking her out of the car.
So you are correct when you say you are not sure how this can be disputed because outside of staunch police opponents looking to sink their fangs into something... there is nothing here.
What can be disputed is the force he demonstrated to subdue her into handcuffs. The same legal piece spoke to this as well suggesting that there might be a case with regards to this part of the incident. To that... I would say again that she was detained without a mark and with a certain level of care (she was led to the grass instead of the cement... to which many have suggested he led her off camera so he could work her over or something... sheesh).
The officer began yelling which detracts from his level of professionalism. A calmer, cyborg approach likely would have looked better for him; however, Bland never exactly made things easy peasy for him. I'm pretty sure we have all had days when we lost our patience for people such as this. Usually, in the aftermath of events such as these, the history of the officer is splashed all over headlines. Has there been anything in the officer's past that demonstrates a pattern of abuse? Yet many wish to hang him on this while completely overlooking Bland's belligerence as if that type of behaviour is acceptable when dealing with an officer of the law.
To the people who are lamenting the death of Bland and calling the people defending the cop 'insensitive' to the woman's ordeal... I'm sorry, but your bias is inherent. Defending the officer, who has unfairly become a victim himself, is not dismissing the unfortunate end to Bland's life. In order to properly defend the cop, I'm sorry to say, one has to refer to the behaviour Bland demonstrated at the scene of detainment. Alluding to her defiance at the scene is not equivalent to disrespecting her life and family.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to have a reason.
I don't accept that, it may be the letter of the law, but it is certainly not the intent. I can't believe that is fine by you. So he can ask my or your wife to step out of the car because he wants to see their ass? If he doesn't need a reason, what's stopping him?
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
How much review is necessary here?
A legal piece was already submitted- on the part of a police critic (I think it was Often)- that explained in very clear language why the cop was within his rights and justified asking her out of the car.
So you are correct when you say you are not sure how this can be disputed because outside of staunch police opponents looking to sink their fangs into something... there is nothing here.
What can be disputed is the force he demonstrated to subdue her into handcuffs. The same legal piece spoke to this as well suggesting that there might be a case with regards to this part of the incident. To that... I would say again that she was detained without a mark and with a certain level of care (she was led to the grass instead of the cement... to which many have suggested he led her off camera so he could work her over or something... sheesh).
The officer began yelling which detracts from his level of professionalism. A calmer, cyborg approach likely would have looked better for him; however, Bland never exactly made things easy peasy for him. I'm pretty sure we have all had days when we lost our patience for people such as this. Usually, in the aftermath of events such as these, the history of the officer is splashed all over headlines. Has there been anything in the officer's past that demonstrates a pattern of abuse? Yet many wish to hang him on this while completely overlooking Bland's belligerence as if that type of behaviour is acceptable when dealing with an officer of the law.
To the people who are lamenting the death of Bland and calling the people defending the cop 'insensitive' to the woman's ordeal... I'm sorry, but your bias is inherent. Defending the officer, who has unfairly become a victim himself, is not dismissing the unfortunate end to Bland's life. In order to properly defend the cop, I'm sorry to say, one has to refer to the behaviour Bland demonstrated at the scene of detainment. Alluding to her defiance at the scene is not equivalent to disrespecting her life and family.
Within rights, yes. Justified? There was no mention of that. It's noteworthy that you excuse him for losing patience but you hold her responsible for the same. Intent doesn't seem to matter to you three, if you had ever been the victim of police abuse, as I and many others have, you would be more concerned with WHY he did what he did.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
I wouldn't exactly call it the face of criticism. I would call it defiance.
There was nothing immoral about it- it was a legal detainment and the cop stayed within the law throughout the entire event.
We create law to protect the 'free' because there are people that infringe on other people's freedom. We employ police officers to enforce these laws. We provide police officers with measures designed to effectively carry out their duties and for their safety.
Don't you think your placing the cart before the horse?
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
How much review is necessary here?
A legal piece was already submitted- on the part of a police critic (I think it was Often)- that explained in very clear language why the cop was within his rights and justified asking her out of the car.
So you are correct when you say you are not sure how this can be disputed because outside of staunch police opponents looking to sink their fangs into something... there is nothing here.
What can be disputed is the force he demonstrated to subdue her into handcuffs. The same legal piece spoke to this as well suggesting that there might be a case with regards to this part of the incident. To that... I would say again that she was detained without a mark and with a certain level of care (she was led to the grass instead of the cement... to which many have suggested he led her off camera so he could work her over or something... sheesh).
The officer began yelling which detracts from his level of professionalism. A calmer, cyborg approach likely would have looked better for him; however, Bland never exactly made things easy peasy for him. I'm pretty sure we have all had days when we lost our patience for people such as this. Usually, in the aftermath of events such as these, the history of the officer is splashed all over headlines. Has there been anything in the officer's past that demonstrates a pattern of abuse? Yet many wish to hang him on this while completely overlooking Bland's belligerence as if that type of behaviour is acceptable when dealing with an officer of the law.
To the people who are lamenting the death of Bland and calling the people defending the cop 'insensitive' to the woman's ordeal... I'm sorry, but your bias is inherent. Defending the officer, who has unfairly become a victim himself, is not dismissing the unfortunate end to Bland's life. In order to properly defend the cop, I'm sorry to say, one has to refer to the behaviour Bland demonstrated at the scene of detainment. Alluding to her defiance at the scene is not equivalent to disrespecting her life and family.
Within rights, yes. Justified? There was no mention of that. It's noteworthy that you excuse him for losing patience but you hold her responsible for the same. Intent doesn't seem to matter to you three, if you had ever been the victim of police abuse, as I and many others have, you would be more concerned with WHY he did what he did.
Wrong.
The piece did offer justification.
And I never excused him for losing patience as much as I understood his reason for doing so. There is a slight difference between her losing her patience and him losing his: she was afoul of the law and out of bounds... he was within the law.
And this was not an abusive situation. You keep trying to make it seem as one, but it was not. I know WHY he did what he did. The video clearly showed WHY he did what he did. Bland was being an idiot in that moment and pushed the routine traffic detainment into a different realm for no good reason.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to have a reason.
I don't accept that, it may be the letter of the law, but it is certainly not the intent. I can't believe that is fine by you. So he can ask my or your wife to step out of the car because he wants to see their ass? If he doesn't need a reason, what's stopping him?
You have to accept this. It's law. A cop does not have to have a reason to ask you to get out of the car. It's the same for asking for your license and registration. You HAVE to do it.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
How much review is necessary here?
A legal piece was already submitted- on the part of a police critic (I think it was Often)- that explained in very clear language why the cop was within his rights and justified asking her out of the car.
So you are correct when you say you are not sure how this can be disputed because outside of staunch police opponents looking to sink their fangs into something... there is nothing here.
What can be disputed is the force he demonstrated to subdue her into handcuffs. The same legal piece spoke to this as well suggesting that there might be a case with regards to this part of the incident. To that... I would say again that she was detained without a mark and with a certain level of care (she was led to the grass instead of the cement... to which many have suggested he led her off camera so he could work her over or something... sheesh).
The officer began yelling which detracts from his level of professionalism. A calmer, cyborg approach likely would have looked better for him; however, Bland never exactly made things easy peasy for him. I'm pretty sure we have all had days when we lost our patience for people such as this. Usually, in the aftermath of events such as these, the history of the officer is splashed all over headlines. Has there been anything in the officer's past that demonstrates a pattern of abuse? Yet many wish to hang him on this while completely overlooking Bland's belligerence as if that type of behaviour is acceptable when dealing with an officer of the law.
To the people who are lamenting the death of Bland and calling the people defending the cop 'insensitive' to the woman's ordeal... I'm sorry, but your bias is inherent. Defending the officer, who has unfairly become a victim himself, is not dismissing the unfortunate end to Bland's life. In order to properly defend the cop, I'm sorry to say, one has to refer to the behaviour Bland demonstrated at the scene of detainment. Alluding to her defiance at the scene is not equivalent to disrespecting her life and family.
Within rights, yes. Justified? There was no mention of that. It's noteworthy that you excuse him for losing patience but you hold her responsible for the same. Intent doesn't seem to matter to you three, if you had ever been the victim of police abuse, as I and many others have, you would be more concerned with WHY he did what he did.
Wrong.
The piece did offer justification.
And I never excused him for losing patience as much as I understood his reason for doing so. There is a slight difference between her losing her patience and him losing his: she was afoul of the law and out of bounds... he was within the law.
And this was not an abusive situation. You keep trying to make it seem as one, but it was not. I know WHY he did what he did. The video clearly showed WHY he did what he did. Bland was being an idiot in that moment and pushed the routine traffic detainment into a different realm for no good reason.
Idiocy is not a crime. He pushed it, she answered his question and asked about her rights.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to have a reason.
I don't accept that, it may be the letter of the law, but it is certainly not the intent. I can't believe that is fine by you. So he can ask my or your wife to step out of the car because he wants to see their ass? If he doesn't need a reason, what's stopping him?
You have to accept this. It's law. A cop does not have to have a reason to ask you to get out of the car. It's the same for asking for your license and registration. You HAVE to do it.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
Thanks!
A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to have a reason.
I don't accept that, it may be the letter of the law, but it is certainly not the intent. I can't believe that is fine by you. So he can ask my or your wife to step out of the car because he wants to see their ass? If he doesn't need a reason, what's stopping him?
You have to accept this. It's law. A cop does not have to have a reason to ask you to get out of the car. It's the same for asking for your license and registration. You HAVE to do it.
During the ill-fated traffic stop, most of which was caught on camera, Mr. Encinia asked Ms. Bland why she was irritated and she told him. She answered the question she was asked. Her voice was steady, confident. Mr. Encinia didn’t like her tone, as if she should be joyful about a traffic stop. He told Ms. Bland to put her cigarette out and she refused. The situation escalated. Mr. Encinia threatened to light her up with his Taser. Ms. Bland was forced to leave her car. She continued to protest. She was placed in handcuffs. She was treated horribly. She was treated as less than human. She protested her treatment. She knew and stated her rights but it did not matter. Her black life and her black body did not matter.
Because Sandra Bland was driving while black, because she was not subservient in the manner this trooper preferred, a routine traffic stop became a death sentence. Even if Ms. Bland did commit suicide, there is an entire system of injustice whose fingerprints left bruises on her throat.
In his impassioned new memoir, “Between the World and Me,” Ta-Nehisi Coates writes, “In America, it is traditional to destroy the black body — it is heritage.” I would take this bold claim a step further. It is also traditional to try and destroy the black spirit. I don’t want to believe our spirits can be broken. Nonetheless, increasingly, as a black woman in America, I do not feel alive. I feel like I am not yet dead.
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A horseshit, opinion piece that echoes the mentality that, to be blunt, has failed miserably in this thread.
'Routine traffic stop became a death sentence'. Yah. Yes. Yes indeed.
F**king nonsense.
Has failed miserably? Lol Mr King of the thread passes final judgement. Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
The cop didn't break the law. He's not responsible for the death of this woman. She is. It just drives some of you crazy that the cops didn't kill her.
It doesn't drive me crazy at all. I don't hold him responsible for her death. The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Police need that latitude. It would be illegal if they didn't.
I agree they need a wide lattitude, but don't you agree that using it for revenge on someone who posses you off is immoral?
Yes. Of course, I don't think the cop was revenging anything here.
Then why did he ask her out of the car? It wasn't out of concerns for safety, it was because she mouthed off. I don't see how that can be disputed.
How much review is necessary here?
A legal piece was already submitted- on the part of a police critic (I think it was Often)- that explained in very clear language why the cop was within his rights and justified asking her out of the car.
So you are correct when you say you are not sure how this can be disputed because outside of staunch police opponents looking to sink their fangs into something... there is nothing here.
What can be disputed is the force he demonstrated to subdue her into handcuffs. The same legal piece spoke to this as well suggesting that there might be a case with regards to this part of the incident. To that... I would say again that she was detained without a mark and with a certain level of care (she was led to the grass instead of the cement... to which many have suggested he led her off camera so he could work her over or something... sheesh).
The officer began yelling which detracts from his level of professionalism. A calmer, cyborg approach likely would have looked better for him; however, Bland never exactly made things easy peasy for him. I'm pretty sure we have all had days when we lost our patience for people such as this. Usually, in the aftermath of events such as these, the history of the officer is splashed all over headlines. Has there been anything in the officer's past that demonstrates a pattern of abuse? Yet many wish to hang him on this while completely overlooking Bland's belligerence as if that type of behaviour is acceptable when dealing with an officer of the law.
To the people who are lamenting the death of Bland and calling the people defending the cop 'insensitive' to the woman's ordeal... I'm sorry, but your bias is inherent. Defending the officer, who has unfairly become a victim himself, is not dismissing the unfortunate end to Bland's life. In order to properly defend the cop, I'm sorry to say, one has to refer to the behaviour Bland demonstrated at the scene of detainment. Alluding to her defiance at the scene is not equivalent to disrespecting her life and family.
Within rights, yes. Justified? There was no mention of that. It's noteworthy that you excuse him for losing patience but you hold her responsible for the same. Intent doesn't seem to matter to you three, if you had ever been the victim of police abuse, as I and many others have, you would be more concerned with WHY he did what he did.
Wrong.
The piece did offer justification.
And I never excused him for losing patience as much as I understood his reason for doing so. There is a slight difference between her losing her patience and him losing his: she was afoul of the law and out of bounds... he was within the law.
And this was not an abusive situation. You keep trying to make it seem as one, but it was not. I know WHY he did what he did. The video clearly showed WHY he did what he did. Bland was being an idiot in that moment and pushed the routine traffic detainment into a different realm for no good reason.
Idiocy is not a crime. He pushed it, she answered his question and asked about her rights.
But refusing to get out of the car after the cop asked you to is a crime.
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Facts were presented that showed experts stating that he acted inappropriately, but since it doesn't fit the narrative that mouthing off and asking about your rights is corporally punishable, it is a miserable fail.
Everyone in America has a chance to climb to the top of the highest mountain.
Some have to hike across the desert to even make the attempt, some are born at high elevation. It sickens me that it's so common that those born near the peak try to negate the struggle of the real ttrekkers by talking about their hard climb.
But Gambsy, I built everything I have with sweat equity and sacrifice.No help from anyone Espescially not the Govt.So I feel I can personally talk from that vantage point.
I will say though, especially in your generation, if you had started from the same economic starting point but been black or Hispanic... There is no doubt your struggle would have been much more difficult.
I am not a fan of the term "white privilege", but it is a real thing without a doubt.
The cop didn't exactly break the law, but he took laws that give him wide lattitude for the safety of himself and the public, and he used them to exercize authority in the face of criticism. That is immoral, and it is authoritarian in a way that we shouldn't allow in the land of the free.
Keeping it from getting out of control would be saying "I was going to give you a warning, but since you have a bad attitude, here's your citation. Drive safer and have more respect, goodbye."
A legal piece was already submitted- on the part of a police critic (I think it was Often)- that explained in very clear language why the cop was within his rights and justified asking her out of the car.
So you are correct when you say you are not sure how this can be disputed because outside of staunch police opponents looking to sink their fangs into something... there is nothing here.
What can be disputed is the force he demonstrated to subdue her into handcuffs. The same legal piece spoke to this as well suggesting that there might be a case with regards to this part of the incident. To that... I would say again that she was detained without a mark and with a certain level of care (she was led to the grass instead of the cement... to which many have suggested he led her off camera so he could work her over or something... sheesh).
The officer began yelling which detracts from his level of professionalism. A calmer, cyborg approach likely would have looked better for him; however, Bland never exactly made things easy peasy for him. I'm pretty sure we have all had days when we lost our patience for people such as this. Usually, in the aftermath of events such as these, the history of the officer is splashed all over headlines. Has there been anything in the officer's past that demonstrates a pattern of abuse? Yet many wish to hang him on this while completely overlooking Bland's belligerence as if that type of behaviour is acceptable when dealing with an officer of the law.
To the people who are lamenting the death of Bland and calling the people defending the cop 'insensitive' to the woman's ordeal... I'm sorry, but your bias is inherent. Defending the officer, who has unfairly become a victim himself, is not dismissing the unfortunate end to Bland's life. In order to properly defend the cop, I'm sorry to say, one has to refer to the behaviour Bland demonstrated at the scene of detainment. Alluding to her defiance at the scene is not equivalent to disrespecting her life and family.
I can't believe that is fine by you.
So he can ask my or your wife to step out of the car because he wants to see their ass?
If he doesn't need a reason, what's stopping him?
Intent doesn't seem to matter to you three, if you had ever been the victim of police abuse, as I and many others have, you would be more concerned with WHY he did what he did.
There was nothing immoral about it- it was a legal detainment and the cop stayed within the law throughout the entire event.
We create law to protect the 'free' because there are people that infringe on other people's freedom. We employ police officers to enforce these laws. We provide police officers with measures designed to effectively carry out their duties and for their safety.
Don't you think your placing the cart before the horse?
The piece did offer justification.
And I never excused him for losing patience as much as I understood his reason for doing so. There is a slight difference between her losing her patience and him losing his: she was afoul of the law and out of bounds... he was within the law.
And this was not an abusive situation. You keep trying to make it seem as one, but it was not. I know WHY he did what he did. The video clearly showed WHY he did what he did. Bland was being an idiot in that moment and pushed the routine traffic detainment into a different realm for no good reason.
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