Another Bullsh$@ Manufactured story to provoke the race card.

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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    And yes Cal,I know I'm white.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    edited July 2015
    I drove up behind a Tahoe last last on the way home from dinner. I tend to drive faster than most posted speed limits. This vehicle had no police markings on it at all other than a worn sheriffs badge sticker that looked like what gambsy was talking about earlier. I asked my wife if she could tell if there were LED lights in the truck. She said "who cares? Slow down." So I passed the guy. As I'm passing him, I hear the siren. The driver had just beeped it for a second. I knew what it meant. I finished passing him and kept going 70 until I had to turn off figuring he's got me if he wants me.

    Anyway, dude doesn't pull me over. There's no way he could have known if I was white or not. It was dark and my windows are tinted. I guess I have no point. Just rr and I drive to fast.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited July 2015
    I have a need for speed.
    You got the old,I'm on my way home,off shift and really don't feel like pulling your dumb ass over ,so slow down please,courtesy light blast.I love that one.
    Post edited by rr165892 on
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
    You guys must have a knack for getting off easy. My last speeding ticket (almost 20 years ago) went like this:

    I was doing 60 in a 55 zone. As I approached the cop car I just kept going but noticed the officer turned on his overhead light before I even reached him and I was pulled over. Figuring most people do 5 over the limit, I asked why I was being pulled over. He said I was doing 65 in a 55 (I was not). I asked, "How did you determine that?" I was respectful and courteous. He said, "It was a visual". I went to court to fight it and told the judge I was told "It was a visual". The cop lied and said, "I have never said that in my life". Must be the long hair and the van, right? Oh well.

    Another time, I was driving the speed limit on a major bay area road and was pulled over. I asked what I had done wrong. I was respectful and polite. The officer said I was drinking beer. I was not. I handed him my can of soda. He told me to wait in the car and went to talk on his radio. I was detained for a half an hour. Must have been the long hair, right? Oh well.

    Another time I was with a friend who was trying to calm me down after some rough events in my life at the time. We were up on Twin Peaks in San Francisco talking and looking out over the city at night. Two cops came up to my car and hauled us out and threw us in the back of the squad car and began to question us harshly. We were respectful and polite. They continued to harass us severely and detained us for about an hour. Must have been the long hair and suspicion of being queer, right?

    Nicely played?


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
    You guys must have a knack for getting off easy. My last speeding ticket (almost 20 years ago) went like this:

    I was doing 60 in a 55 zone. As I approached the cop car I just kept going but noticed the officer turned on his overhead light before I even reached him and I was pulled over. Figuring most people do 5 over the limit, I asked why I was being pulled over. He said I was doing 65 in a 55 (I was not). I asked, "How did you determine that?" I was respectful and courteous. He said, "It was a visual". I went to court to fight it and told the judge I was told "It was a visual". The cop lied and said, "I have never said that in my life". Must be the long hair and the van, right? Oh well.

    Another time, I was driving the speed limit on a major bay area road and was pulled over. I asked what I had done wrong. I was respectful and polite. The officer said I was drinking beer. I was not. I handed him my can of soda. He told me to wait in the car and went to talk on his radio. I was detained for a half an hour. Must have been the long hair, right? Oh well.

    Another time I was with a friend who was trying to calm me down after some rough events in my life at the time. We were up on Twin Peaks in San Francisco talking and looking out over the city at night. Two cops came up to my car and hauled us out and threw us in the back of the squad car and began to question us harshly. We were respectful and polite. They continued to harass us severely and detained us for about an hour. Must have been the long hair and suspicion of being queer, right?

    Nicely played?


    Being a long bearded fellow who drives junk cars (I can afford nicer ones, but view vehicles as a huge waste of money) my experience has been similar at times. I have gotten out of tickets by being polite, and I have been asked out of the vehicle for contraband searches as well. More to do with the officer and the day he/she was having.
    They always seem to think I am dumb enough to drive around with drugs.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    rgambs said:

    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
    You guys must have a knack for getting off easy. My last speeding ticket (almost 20 years ago) went like this:

    I was doing 60 in a 55 zone. As I approached the cop car I just kept going but noticed the officer turned on his overhead light before I even reached him and I was pulled over. Figuring most people do 5 over the limit, I asked why I was being pulled over. He said I was doing 65 in a 55 (I was not). I asked, "How did you determine that?" I was respectful and courteous. He said, "It was a visual". I went to court to fight it and told the judge I was told "It was a visual". The cop lied and said, "I have never said that in my life". Must be the long hair and the van, right? Oh well.

    Another time, I was driving the speed limit on a major bay area road and was pulled over. I asked what I had done wrong. I was respectful and polite. The officer said I was drinking beer. I was not. I handed him my can of soda. He told me to wait in the car and went to talk on his radio. I was detained for a half an hour. Must have been the long hair, right? Oh well.

    Another time I was with a friend who was trying to calm me down after some rough events in my life at the time. We were up on Twin Peaks in San Francisco talking and looking out over the city at night. Two cops came up to my car and hauled us out and threw us in the back of the squad car and began to question us harshly. We were respectful and polite. They continued to harass us severely and detained us for about an hour. Must have been the long hair and suspicion of being queer, right?

    Nicely played?


    Being a long bearded fellow who drives junk cars (I can afford nicer ones, but view vehicles as a huge waste of money) my experience has been similar at times. I have gotten out of tickets by being polite, and I have been asked out of the vehicle for contraband searches as well. More to do with the officer and the day he/she was having.
    They always seem to think I am dumb enough to drive around with drugs.
    So true Gambs, as to the individual officer. I was helped by a very good, kind officer in a jam once several years ago. I think that was the example I used to start the "Good Cop" thread and I want to encourage and foster that kind of professionalism. But I honestly have to say that over my lifetime, my experiences with cops have been more negative than positive by a big margin. The worst was having a guy I worked with play me an audio tape of him and a fellow jailer beating up inmates for no reason what-so-ever. That was the last time I ever spent any time with that guy- it really fucked with my head. There needs to better higher standards for police officers in this country. Other countries have done it.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
    You guys must have a knack for getting off easy. My last speeding ticket (almost 20 years ago) went like this:

    I was doing 60 in a 55 zone. As I approached the cop car I just kept going but noticed the officer turned on his overhead light before I even reached him and I was pulled over. Figuring most people do 5 over the limit, I asked why I was being pulled over. He said I was doing 65 in a 55 (I was not). I asked, "How did you determine that?" I was respectful and courteous. He said, "It was a visual". I went to court to fight it and told the judge I was told "It was a visual". The cop lied and said, "I have never said that in my life". Must be the long hair and the van, right? Oh well.

    Another time, I was driving the speed limit on a major bay area road and was pulled over. I asked what I had done wrong. I was respectful and polite. The officer said I was drinking beer. I was not. I handed him my can of soda. He told me to wait in the car and went to talk on his radio. I was detained for a half an hour. Must have been the long hair, right? Oh well.

    Another time I was with a friend who was trying to calm me down after some rough events in my life at the time. We were up on Twin Peaks in San Francisco talking and looking out over the city at night. Two cops came up to my car and hauled us out and threw us in the back of the squad car and began to question us harshly. We were respectful and polite. They continued to harass us severely and detained us for about an hour. Must have been the long hair and suspicion of being queer, right?

    Nicely played?

    Perhaps your idea of being respectable Comes off differently .... Or perhaps it is your long hair..lol
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717

    muskydan said:

    I've never seen so many sheep in my life.

    Here's some facts for this thread.

    No one is responsible for the death except the person who took the life, which was not the officer, or anyone besides the person who killed them selves.

    Thousands of people a day are arrested. Not all of them kill themselves. It's not on anyone but the person who makes that decision.

    It doesn't matter if the cop said "you're an angel" or if he said "you're a fucking turd" either way he did not kill anyone.

    All of this talk, over this, because the mainstream media brainwashes you guys into thinking this shit is important. Like others have mentioned, why is the multiple black on black crimes ignored, but these crimes aren't?

    Sometimes stereotypes are there for a reason, and in this case it's justified. Less than 13% of America is made up of blacks, but over 50% of murders are committed by blacks. I love how this is ignored 99% of the time.

    Maybe so many blacks wouldn't be killed by police if they weren't crossing lines and breaking laws.

    And to answer a few things mentioned here

    The reason she was asked how long she was in Texas is because the law states you have 10-14 days to update your license after moving. If it's not it's a ticketable offense.

    And the officer had every right to ask her to put out the smoke. It's her ignorance and self entitledment that led her to believe she didn't have to. You can be arrested for obstruction of justice for just about anything, including not complying with an officers order (the defenition of obstruction)

    Again, at the end of the day, no one killed this woman but herself. Regardless of how she ended up where she did, she's at fault.

    If I killed myself and blamed you guys would it make it right? It wouldnt. Same here with this situation.

    It's time to wake up and realize this, and many other specific cases are thrust into the media purposefully, with the intention to fuel these debates on race and police, when it's truly all by design to keep your minds off of the real, bigger issues wrong with this country/government.

    No need to reply directly to me, as I won't reply anymore. It's clear people don't care about my opinion here. But it's sad and pathetic to read all this crying over this case. How pc have we become?

    Bottom line is this. We decide what actions we take. Our own actions (usually) decide what happens to us. I don't get murderer by the police because I follow the law and am not out in the street waving guns around or robbing stores. Again, maybe there's a reason all of these cases involve black people.

    Lastly. Over the weekend a white man was arrested after a concert. He was thought to have been high on lsd. The police hog tied him
    And placed him facedown on a stretcher, and then secured his head to he stretcher, face down. He also died in police custody. Not by suicide but through true police negligence. How
    Many of you have heard that story? Not too many i assume. Again, it's all by design and specific cases are beat to death in the media on purpose.

    Try and wake up and see the bigger picture here. The closed mindedness and flock mentality is staggering. I've lost a lot of respect for people here through this thread.

    And now.. Let's pretend I didn't say a word and, please carry on :)

    Holy crap man!!!!where have you been all my life??? Get ready to get hammered By the majority on here that see and hear only what their silly liberal brains want. Being a realist is taken as racist on here, you'll see.
    Musky, you really need to get out more and enjoy the rest of the site if you haven't read any of Just a Girl's posts before; s/he (for the sake of convenience and given user name I will assume she) has posted all over, but mostly on the Porch. This is the usual format - come into an established thread, post a long, possibly controversial post, state that there's no need to reply as she won't reply but then replies to further posts, sometimes throws out gratuitous insults toward other posters, then disappears again for a bit. That's fine; everyone can posts as much or as little as they want, but if you are looking for your soul mate musky then step out on the porch.
    :giggle:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717

    rr165892 said:

    I know about the stickers. I do not support the fraternal order so I don't get stickers. I have gotten out of tickets through my relationships with state and county police.

    And blow jobs
    Breathalyzer test?
    Does anyone really blow btw? What happens if you suck a breathalyzer test?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    muskydan said:

    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
    You guys must have a knack for getting off easy. My last speeding ticket (almost 20 years ago) went like this:

    I was doing 60 in a 55 zone. As I approached the cop car I just kept going but noticed the officer turned on his overhead light before I even reached him and I was pulled over. Figuring most people do 5 over the limit, I asked why I was being pulled over. He said I was doing 65 in a 55 (I was not). I asked, "How did you determine that?" I was respectful and courteous. He said, "It was a visual". I went to court to fight it and told the judge I was told "It was a visual". The cop lied and said, "I have never said that in my life". Must be the long hair and the van, right? Oh well.

    Another time, I was driving the speed limit on a major bay area road and was pulled over. I asked what I had done wrong. I was respectful and polite. The officer said I was drinking beer. I was not. I handed him my can of soda. He told me to wait in the car and went to talk on his radio. I was detained for a half an hour. Must have been the long hair, right? Oh well.

    Another time I was with a friend who was trying to calm me down after some rough events in my life at the time. We were up on Twin Peaks in San Francisco talking and looking out over the city at night. Two cops came up to my car and hauled us out and threw us in the back of the squad car and began to question us harshly. We were respectful and polite. They continued to harass us severely and detained us for about an hour. Must have been the long hair and suspicion of being queer, right?

    Nicely played?

    Perhaps your idea of being respectable Comes off differently .... Or perhaps it is your long hair..lol
    If it's one of those two... gotta be the hair, haha!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
    You guys must have a knack for getting off easy. My last speeding ticket (almost 20 years ago) went like this:

    I was doing 60 in a 55 zone. As I approached the cop car I just kept going but noticed the officer turned on his overhead light before I even reached him and I was pulled over. Figuring most people do 5 over the limit, I asked why I was being pulled over. He said I was doing 65 in a 55 (I was not). I asked, "How did you determine that?" I was respectful and courteous. He said, "It was a visual". I went to court to fight it and told the judge I was told "It was a visual". The cop lied and said, "I have never said that in my life". Must be the long hair and the van, right? Oh well.

    Another time, I was driving the speed limit on a major bay area road and was pulled over. I asked what I had done wrong. I was respectful and polite. The officer said I was drinking beer. I was not. I handed him my can of soda. He told me to wait in the car and went to talk on his radio. I was detained for a half an hour. Must have been the long hair, right? Oh well.

    Another time I was with a friend who was trying to calm me down after some rough events in my life at the time. We were up on Twin Peaks in San Francisco talking and looking out over the city at night. Two cops came up to my car and hauled us out and threw us in the back of the squad car and began to question us harshly. We were respectful and polite. They continued to harass us severely and detained us for about an hour. Must have been the long hair and suspicion of being queer, right?

    Nicely played?


    Brian were you wearing Lennon glasses and did you smell of patchouli oil and sage? lol
    And yes it probably was the hair.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited July 2015
    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    I know about the stickers. I do not support the fraternal order so I don't get stickers. I have gotten out of tickets through my relationships with state and county police.

    And blow jobs
    Breathalyzer test?
    Does anyone really blow btw? What happens if you suck a breathalyzer test?
    Then you get into a spit or swallow issue. :))))))))

    Sorry PJ,you just left it hangin there.I had too
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,717
    rr165892 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    I know about the stickers. I do not support the fraternal order so I don't get stickers. I have gotten out of tickets through my relationships with state and county police.

    And blow jobs
    Breathalyzer test?
    Does anyone really blow btw? What happens if you suck a breathalyzer test?
    Then you get into a spit or swallow issue. :))))))))

    Sorry PJ,you just left it hangin there.I had too
    :rofl:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    rr165892 said:

    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
    You guys must have a knack for getting off easy. My last speeding ticket (almost 20 years ago) went like this:

    I was doing 60 in a 55 zone. As I approached the cop car I just kept going but noticed the officer turned on his overhead light before I even reached him and I was pulled over. Figuring most people do 5 over the limit, I asked why I was being pulled over. He said I was doing 65 in a 55 (I was not). I asked, "How did you determine that?" I was respectful and courteous. He said, "It was a visual". I went to court to fight it and told the judge I was told "It was a visual". The cop lied and said, "I have never said that in my life". Must be the long hair and the van, right? Oh well.

    Another time, I was driving the speed limit on a major bay area road and was pulled over. I asked what I had done wrong. I was respectful and polite. The officer said I was drinking beer. I was not. I handed him my can of soda. He told me to wait in the car and went to talk on his radio. I was detained for a half an hour. Must have been the long hair, right? Oh well.

    Another time I was with a friend who was trying to calm me down after some rough events in my life at the time. We were up on Twin Peaks in San Francisco talking and looking out over the city at night. Two cops came up to my car and hauled us out and threw us in the back of the squad car and began to question us harshly. We were respectful and polite. They continued to harass us severely and detained us for about an hour. Must have been the long hair and suspicion of being queer, right?

    Nicely played?


    Brian were you wearing Lennon glasses and did you smell of patchouli oil and sage? lol
    And yes it probably was the hair.
    No, I've never worn Lennon glasses or beads and have never been into fragrant oils. In fact, I never liked being called a "hippie". It was all about the music for me. All my musician friends and the musicians I was into had long hair so for me it was about wanting to relate to the music scene. My mother used to cut my hair short and I hated it so I was a bit rebellious that way when I get well into my teens but I've never been a scenester.

    In any case, I've never given cause for nor deserved the bad treatment I've received from cops. I don't understand why someone should be treated poorly simply because of the way they look, the color of their skin, etc. I guess many cops don't see it that way.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    brianlux said:

    rr165892 said:

    brianlux said:

    muskydan said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    Well played Sir
    You guys must have a knack for getting off easy. My last speeding ticket (almost 20 years ago) went like this:

    I was doing 60 in a 55 zone. As I approached the cop car I just kept going but noticed the officer turned on his overhead light before I even reached him and I was pulled over. Figuring most people do 5 over the limit, I asked why I was being pulled over. He said I was doing 65 in a 55 (I was not). I asked, "How did you determine that?" I was respectful and courteous. He said, "It was a visual". I went to court to fight it and told the judge I was told "It was a visual". The cop lied and said, "I have never said that in my life". Must be the long hair and the van, right? Oh well.

    Another time, I was driving the speed limit on a major bay area road and was pulled over. I asked what I had done wrong. I was respectful and polite. The officer said I was drinking beer. I was not. I handed him my can of soda. He told me to wait in the car and went to talk on his radio. I was detained for a half an hour. Must have been the long hair, right? Oh well.

    Another time I was with a friend who was trying to calm me down after some rough events in my life at the time. We were up on Twin Peaks in San Francisco talking and looking out over the city at night. Two cops came up to my car and hauled us out and threw us in the back of the squad car and began to question us harshly. We were respectful and polite. They continued to harass us severely and detained us for about an hour. Must have been the long hair and suspicion of being queer, right?

    Nicely played?


    Brian were you wearing Lennon glasses and did you smell of patchouli oil and sage? lol
    And yes it probably was the hair.
    No, I've never worn Lennon glasses or beads and have never been into fragrant oils. In fact, I never liked being called a "hippie". It was all about the music for me. All my musician friends and the musicians I was into had long hair so for me it was about wanting to relate to the music scene. My mother used to cut my hair short and I hated it so I was a bit rebellious that way when I get well into my teens but I've never been a scenester.

    In any case, I've never given cause for nor deserved the bad treatment I've received from cops. I don't understand why someone should be treated poorly simply because of the way they look, the color of their skin, etc. I guess many cops don't see it that way.

    I see it as a situation where they are conditioned to expect criminality through past dealings with different phenotypes like race, alternative hair and beard styles, etc, which conformed to the stereotype of criminality.
    The problem is that this conditioning is accepted rather than resisted. It is also a huge double standard that an officer is allowed to have such biases and act on them while people who have had negative experiences with police are expected to suck it up and play nice.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited July 2015
    B - I honestly think it's more of "some" vs "many" cops.

    And...I wonder if exposure has anything to do with this, on either side. Maybe it's about that vs conditioning (or are they the same?).
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,537
    I traveled A LOT.

    I would get pulled over A LOT.

    I would speed A LOT…

    Anywho, I have a hard time talking my way out of tickets which is weird because I'm a great talker. Most of the time a cop has his/her mind made up that they are giving you a ticket before they reach your window.

    I have been harassed only to be befriended by the cop in the end. Remember my gift of gab?

    My vehicle has been searched multiple times, Ive even opened the door for the nice officers.

    I've been courteous to them and in the end were reciprocal.

    Long hair, beard, shaved head, mohawk, goatee. I've had every look imaginable but I've always been courteous and that will win over in the end. A little respect goes a long way.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I was driving and listening to one of my favourite albums today and had a closer listen to these lyrics by the incomparable Jimmy Cliff. They seem applicable to the original topic, at least, even if not so much to how the thread has evolved.

    And no, I didn't get pulled over while driving :smile:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Znh0OM9jiA&list=RD7Znh0OM9jiA
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited July 2015
    rr165892 said:

    Ironically,On the way home last night from a concert with 3 others in my Vehicle.I blew by a cop doing 61 in a 50.(right as I peaked a hill he was there,I couldn't see him).He jumped right out and followed.I knew I was getting pulled over so I put on my blinker to let him know I was turning into a side street off the main road,turned on my interior lights,windows down and all my propers in my hand up on the wheel,music down(Pat Benetars Hell is for Children might I add).When he arrived I was polite,I asked him how much over speed limit I was and didn't deny it.I was doing wrong and I was willing to except my responsibility here.
    He gave me a warning and told me to have a wonderful evening.We both respected each other and everyone just went on with there evening.Nice guy.
    Point is if I was a dick I guarantee I get a ticket.

    I got pulled over once and was super nice and repsectful.62in a 55.

    still got a ticket. frickin pig.
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