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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited April 2015
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    hedonist said:

    This seems like the ramblings of someone under the influence. And if so, so be it. But anyone giving shit to others best cast that light upon themselves as well. To do otherwise is pretty asshole-ish.

    And the whole Obama thing - not getting that tangent (though it could be written off to my having indulged in that evil and loser-grabbing weed).blockquote>

    No- I am not under the influence.
    Too many people are taking this thread as a direct attack, whatever this thread is about now.
    No one is giving shit to people on this forum - no one.

    The Obama thing tangent was trying to get opinions on if they would elect a president knowing he did drugs on his time off, somehow I think not.
    And that reason is clear.

    As far as doctors go - I sure as fuck would not want to have surgery from a doctor that uses coc for fun. Fuck that.

    As far as people banning themselves from this place,
    it happens far too often.

    sidenote - Quite often it seems the AMT only has a fixed number of people responding. I wonder if it is because a lot of people are in agreement to ignore each other or this place really is dead.




    edit - I bolded my quote. seem quoting is messed up again.

    Quote feature be fuckin up yo:
    I know doctors who use drugs on occasion, and whether you can open your mind enough to believe it or not, it has no effect whatsoever on their ability to provide excellent patient care.
    The worst surgeon I ever witnessed with a Bovie in hand was a teetotaling Christian maniac who abstained from all substances, caffeine included. I would much rather go "under the knife" with a confident surgeon who uses responsibly than a hack who abstains, because as I said, what a Dr. does in their free time has nothing to do with their skill and ability.
    Post edited by rgambs on
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    hedonist said:

    :hug: gambino!

    The original is just, like, the coolest fucking song ever... It just oozes groovycoolness.
    The cover is a whole different animal, and I wouldn't want to live in a world where they don't both exist lol
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    I def don't like to throw stones in a glass house , weed is my outlet all others specially legal alcohol and prescription drugs are the problem in today's society as it has for neons ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    whispering hands said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    And yet still so quick to judge.. That's what angers me most.
    I don't know why this angers you so. This is not a thread about you.
    I see kids in local hangouts, playgrounds etc smoking weed for something to do. Some as young as 11. When we walk by them I say to my own kids don't ever associate with those losers.
    The same can apply for an adult. When I see a "professional" after work snorting coc I deem him a loser.

    It's not judging - an 11yr old smoking weed on a playground is a loser much the same as a suit and tie sitting in his office doing a line.

    Well you just happen to be perfect like the chosen one so yeah I get were your coming from , it must feel good ha .....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    So a baby seal walks into a club...................................................

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    rr165892 said:

    So a baby seal walks into a club...................................................

    Wham, on the head.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    rgambs said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    hedonist said:

    This seems like the ramblings of someone under the influence. And if so, so be it. But anyone giving shit to others best cast that light upon themselves as well. To do otherwise is pretty asshole-ish.

    And the whole Obama thing - not getting that tangent (though it could be written off to my having indulged in that evil and loser-grabbing weed).blockquote>

    No- I am not under the influence.
    Too many people are taking this thread as a direct attack, whatever this thread is about now.
    No one is giving shit to people on this forum - no one.

    The Obama thing tangent was trying to get opinions on if they would elect a president knowing he did drugs on his time off, somehow I think not.
    And that reason is clear.

    As far as doctors go - I sure as fuck would not want to have surgery from a doctor that uses coc for fun. Fuck that.

    As far as people banning themselves from this place,
    it happens far too often.

    sidenote - Quite often it seems the AMT only has a fixed number of people responding. I wonder if it is because a lot of people are in agreement to ignore each other or this place really is dead.




    edit - I bolded my quote. seem quoting is messed up again.

    Quote feature be fuckin up yo:
    I know doctors who use drugs on occasion, and whether you can open your mind enough to believe it or not, it has no effect whatsoever on their ability to provide excellent patient care.
    skThe worst surgeon I ever witnessed with a Bovie in hand was a teetotaling Christian maniac who abstained from all substances, caffeine included. I would much rather go "under the knife" with a confident surgeon who uses responsibly than a hack who abstains, because as I said, what a Dr. does in their free time has nothing to do with their ill and ability.
    Yes, I do have an open mind to patient care point addressed.
    I also agree that what a doctor or anyone for that matter does in their free time to a degree is private. I also put doctors up with police and other essential services. So I do honestly feel that If a doctor openly told patients that he/she is a rec user of drugs on his free time that doctor would see quite a decline in number of patients in his/her care. Yes, I am well aware that behind closed doors we don't know what a trusted professional does but I would hope that my family doctor is not an illegal coc/heroin etc user recreationally.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Well,well,well How did I miss this little gem.What were you board PJFan.You ignited a firestorm.

    My 2 cents- Hard narcotics are dangerous and ruin lives.My sis died of a Oxy(and some other stuff toxic stew of shit)overdose in 2000.
    As discussed before,many of us who were in HS and College and were young adults in the 80s and early 90s used the shit out of coke,shrooms,acid etc.I was partying a lot for like 2 years in 88/89 until my wife decided it's time for a family and said enough!
    And everything but weed and Beverages stopped right then.Probably saved our lives.
    I got free coke every friday(uncut 8ball) just for giving a guy who sold it a ride home from a bar every Friday at 6.30.He also would party with us for an hour or so and only let us use his shit and he would leave that on the mirror also.crazy times,no sleep,lots of seedy fun.glad to make it out alive.Smoked too much in those days.glad that ended also.

    It felt like those times were that scene from Forrest Gump when Jenny is partying in LA and Skynard is playing in the background.
    Turned to working out rigorously and healthy highs from endorphins and pushing ourselves physically.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    edited April 2015
    Fail
    Post edited by brianlux on
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  • JV130312
    JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,540
    rgambs said:

    Ed, Stone, Jeff, Mike, Matt and Boom are losers!

    So you say that those mentioned above use hard core illegal drugs?

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JV130312 said:

    rgambs said:

    Ed, Stone, Jeff, Mike, Matt and Boom are losers!

    So you say that those mentioned above use hard core illegal drugs?

    No, that's not what I said. It is common knowledge from public statements they have made, that they have been known to use illegal and legal drugs on a recreational basis, which is the criteria that PJfan gave for being a loser.
    I don't know which drugs are "hard core", I don't know with what frequency they partake, and I don't know what is in the present and future of their recreation and I didn't say I did. I do know some of what is in their past, and they have historically known how to have a good time when the occasion called for it! :bee:
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I guess I don't know about Boom, he could be a straight edge dude, but he looks like he knows how to enjoy a puff or two to me, but that's just an assumption.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    A couple interesting observations after reading 3 pages:

    1. People seem to love getting offended

    2. In strangely defending the OP, not once did he mention he thinks any one here personally is a loser (see #1)

    3. Making blanket statements about a group of people is never a good idea
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,028
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    whispering hands said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    And yet still so quick to judge.. That's what angers me most.
    I don't know why this angers you so. This is not a thread about you.
    I see kids in local hangouts, playgrounds etc smoking weed for something to do. Some as young as 11. When we walk by them I say to my own kids don't ever associate with those losers.
    The same can apply for an adult. When I see a "professional" after work snorting coc I deem him a loser.

    It's not judging - an 11yr old smoking weed on a playground is a loser much the same as a suit and tie sitting in his office doing a line.

    You aren't judging? This post is the bery definition of judgment.

    I did coke once about 20 years ago. Luckily, i didnt like it. Unluckily, my g/f at the time loved it. I smoke pot all the fucking time. So you are calling me a loser. That is not fact. That is fucking judgment.

    Get over yourself. alcohol was illegal once too. And between that and pot, most people with half a brain could tell you which of the two is more harmful in all facets of society.
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2015
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    whispering hands said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    And yet still so quick to judge.. That's what angers me most.
    I don't know why this angers you so. This is not a thread about you.
    I see kids in local hangouts, playgrounds etc smoking weed for something to do. Some as young as 11. When we walk by them I say to my own kids don't ever associate with those losers.
    The same can apply for an adult. When I see a "professional" after work snorting coc I deem him a loser.

    It's not judging - an 11yr old smoking weed on a playground is a loser much the same as a suit and tie sitting in his office doing a line.

    You aren't judging? This post is the bery definition of judgment.

    I did coke once about 20 years ago. Luckily, i didnt like it. Unluckily, my g/f at the time loved it. I smoke pot all the fucking time. So you are calling me a loser. That is not fact. That is fucking judgment.

    Get over yourself. alcohol was illegal once too. And between that and pot, most people with half a brain could tell you which of the two is more harmful in all facets of society.
    No. I am not judging. Young kids smoking pot on a playground for something to do are losers that do nothing buy endorse the actions of doing drugs.

    Fact - You did something once 20yrs ago is not considered recreational use.

    You are not a loser for smoking pot all the time.

    I know alcohol was illegal once. It is no longer, much the same as for personal use of pot really.

    Having some wine with your dinner on a Saturday night is not the same as doing lines of coke on a Saturday night. Unless they make cocaine legal, which last time I checked is not going to happen and I really can't see anyone who would advocate for that anyway.

    I am not putting any debate out about alcohol vs pot anyway.



    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited April 2015
    I might be hailed as a :pig: -y backer, but amen, Hugh.

    Will also say, let those who need to judge, do so. I believe it's more for their (perceived) benefit.

    * edited to add - in good conscience, must say that I too judge. We all do...I guess it's more about the manner in which we go about it.
    Post edited by hedonist on
  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,028
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    whispering hands said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    And yet still so quick to judge.. That's what angers me most.
    I don't know why this angers you so. This is not a thread about you.
    I see kids in local hangouts, playgrounds etc smoking weed for something to do. Some as young as 11. When we walk by them I say to my own kids don't ever associate with those losers.
    The same can apply for an adult. When I see a "professional" after work snorting coc I deem him a loser.

    It's not judging - an 11yr old smoking weed on a playground is a loser much the same as a suit and tie sitting in his office doing a line.

    You aren't judging? This post is the bery definition of judgment.

    I did coke once about 20 years ago. Luckily, i didnt like it. Unluckily, my g/f at the time loved it. I smoke pot all the fucking time. So you are calling me a loser. That is not fact. That is fucking judgment.

    Get over yourself. alcohol was illegal once too. And between that and pot, most people with half a brain could tell you which of the two is more harmful in all facets of society.
    No. I am not judging. Young kids smoking pot on a playground for something to do are losers that do nothing buy endorse the actions of doing drugs. Fact.

    You did something once 20yrs ago is not considered recreational use.

    You are not a loser for smoking pot all the time.

    I know alcohol was illegal once. It is no longer, much the same as for personal use of pot really.

    Having some wine with your dinner on a Saturday night is not the same as doing lines of coke on a Saturday night. Unless they make cocaine legal, which last time I checked is not going to happen and I really can't see anyone who would advocate for that anyway.

    I am not putting any debate out about alcohol vs pot anyway.



    You really need to learn the difference btwn fact and opinion. We really cant have an honest discussion when someone can state unequivocally that calling someone a loser is a fact.

    The fact that you so quickly edited the original post says a lot about your own thoughts on your position.


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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    whispering hands said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    And yet still so quick to judge.. That's what angers me most.
    I don't know why this angers you so. This is not a thread about you.
    I see kids in local hangouts, playgrounds etc smoking weed for something to do. Some as young as 11. When we walk by them I say to my own kids don't ever associate with those losers.
    The same can apply for an adult. When I see a "professional" after work snorting coc I deem him a loser.

    It's not judging - an 11yr old smoking weed on a playground is a loser much the same as a suit and tie sitting in his office doing a line.

    You aren't judging? This post is the bery definition of judgment.

    I did coke once about 20 years ago. Luckily, i didnt like it. Unluckily, my g/f at the time loved it. I smoke pot all the fucking time. So you are calling me a loser. That is not fact. That is fucking judgment.

    Get over yourself. alcohol was illegal once too. And between that and pot, most people with half a brain could tell you which of the two is more harmful in all facets of society.
    No. I am not judging. Young kids smoking pot on a playground for something to do are losers that do nothing buy endorse the actions of doing drugs. Fact.

    You did something once 20yrs ago is not considered recreational use.

    You are not a loser for smoking pot all the time.

    I know alcohol was illegal once. It is no longer, much the same as for personal use of pot really.

    Having some wine with your dinner on a Saturday night is not the same as doing lines of coke on a Saturday night. Unless they make cocaine legal, which last time I checked is not going to happen and I really can't see anyone who would advocate for that anyway.

    I am not putting any debate out about alcohol vs pot anyway.



    You really need to learn the difference btwn fact and opinion. We really cant have an honest discussion when someone can state unequivocally that calling someone a loser is a fact.

    The fact that you so quickly edited the original post says a lot about your own thoughts on your position.


    The word fact should've been placed in front of the sentence about your 20yr ago use not after the playground sentence.

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,028
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    whispering hands said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    whispering hands said:

    I have so
    Much to say.. So little tact with which to say it. So I'm going to say, unless you have ever stared at yourself in a mirror in complete and utter disgust with yourself over where you have ended up in life, you will never get what is happening in the lives of those hooked on hard drugs. And if you can't understand with compassion and earnest knowledge of where they are coming from, then you judging them
    Makes you an inconsiderate and heartless jerk. Period. MY opinion. And I'm done.

    I love the venom that can so easily be spewn at people on this board who so many know so little about... but just as easily spared for, in this particular situation, junkies that presumably have had it much tougher.

    I would wager that most people on this forum intimately understands the effects of alcohol and drug abuse- either through direct experience or that of a loved one.
    And yet still so quick to judge.. That's what angers me most.
    I don't know why this angers you so. This is not a thread about you.
    I see kids in local hangouts, playgrounds etc smoking weed for something to do. Some as young as 11. When we walk by them I say to my own kids don't ever associate with those losers.
    The same can apply for an adult. When I see a "professional" after work snorting coc I deem him a loser.

    It's not judging - an 11yr old smoking weed on a playground is a loser much the same as a suit and tie sitting in his office doing a line.

    You aren't judging? This post is the bery definition of judgment.

    I did coke once about 20 years ago. Luckily, i didnt like it. Unluckily, my g/f at the time loved it. I smoke pot all the fucking time. So you are calling me a loser. That is not fact. That is fucking judgment.

    Get over yourself. alcohol was illegal once too. And between that and pot, most people with half a brain could tell you which of the two is more harmful in all facets of society.
    No. I am not judging. Young kids smoking pot on a playground for something to do are losers that do nothing buy endorse the actions of doing drugs. Fact.

    You did something once 20yrs ago is not considered recreational use.

    You are not a loser for smoking pot all the time.

    I know alcohol was illegal once. It is no longer, much the same as for personal use of pot really.

    Having some wine with your dinner on a Saturday night is not the same as doing lines of coke on a Saturday night. Unless they make cocaine legal, which last time I checked is not going to happen and I really can't see anyone who would advocate for that anyway.

    I am not putting any debate out about alcohol vs pot anyway.



    You really need to learn the difference btwn fact and opinion. We really cant have an honest discussion when someone can state unequivocally that calling someone a loser is a fact.

    The fact that you so quickly edited the original post says a lot about your own thoughts on your position.


    The word fact should've been placed in front of the sentence about your 20yr ago use not after the playground sentence.

    The placement of that word is irrelevant. And honestly, i am on an ipad and the format in which i type ends up the same as how it posts.

    You still state "I'm not judging" and follow it immediately with the "these kids are losers" statement, which is the meat of my point.
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



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